OT: Good Story on Ryan Leaf

Submitted by uncle leo on

Not sure if anyone caught the story about Leaf on FOX 2 a few minutes ago. He's been battling addiction for a long time and got out of jail a couple of years ago. He's now helping people try to avoid the same fate he had.

It's always cool to hear stories about this during the holiday season, especially with all of the bad news that gets pumped into the news non-stop.

https://transcendrecoverycommunity.com/transcends-ryan-leaf-models-life…

LloydCarnac

December 24th, 2016 at 12:47 PM ^

Smashed into the rocks failed NFL career just the tip of the iceburg for his rock bottom which included failed suicide attempt. That he found value in helping others with their difficulties and addictions is a good turn for a life formerly in turmoil.

bacon

December 24th, 2016 at 1:07 PM ^

To think it was debated who should be chosen first: Manning, Leaf, or Woodson. All three had talent, and two were hall of famers and one was a huge bust. Addiction is tremendously destructive and it's at least a small silver lining that he's doing something good for others now.

bacon

December 24th, 2016 at 4:10 PM ^

I mean small silver lining in an unfortunate personal story for Leaf. And the HOF reference is more about I think what his ceiling was and how much he lost due to addiction. I think it's a great thing that he's doing by helping people, and hopefully he can help others avoid his downfall. 

Perkis-Size Me

December 24th, 2016 at 2:33 PM ^

Manziel has to want to help himself before he can get better. He doesn't seem to want/care to get better.

I don't know the true extent of Manziel's issues. Maybe he's a true addict, or maybe he's just a lazy bum. Or it's both. But he seems like he'll be the guy that won't realize he has a problem until he runs out of money, and then his entourage leaves him high and dry because he can't pay for their fun anymore.



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wolpherine2000

December 24th, 2016 at 1:10 PM ^

I grew up in Pullman rooting for him and the Cougs. Broke my heart to see what addiction did to him. But it was the folks who used him as a punch line for whom I lost respect.

Bosch

December 24th, 2016 at 2:47 PM ^

One of Leaf's backups at Washington State was Dave Muir. The Muir family consists of several Michigan graduates, including Mike Muir, Dave's brother. Mike played baseball for Michigan in the mid 90's, same time I was there. I knew a few of the baseball players, including Mike. Because of the connection, weak as it was, I developed a peripheral rooting interest for Leaf. Was tough to see him fall so far.

CoverZero

December 24th, 2016 at 3:43 PM ^

At WSU, Leaf had a great frame, threw a nice ball with accuracy.  He did not get great coaching at the college level and was drafted on potential.  Unfortuantely, in the NFL he was a head case and did not take coaching well at all...he was probably very lazy...the result was a disaster on the field.  He had great potential though coming out of college.

Wal-Mart Wolverine

December 24th, 2016 at 4:13 PM ^

When Leaf was in college, I remember him being real big and strong and standing in the pocket during a blitz. He was so bad ass that he would flick smaller DB's off his back like a fly.  

Wolfman

December 24th, 2016 at 4:38 PM ^

over a decade ago. He had already been through some of the struggles mentioned in this article and had landed at a small midwestern school as its football coach. He seemed genuinely happy, but obviously such was not the case. 

I am not pointing fingers at any school because we've had people, no matter how much advise given them on how to handle life after football, still found the wrong path. However, I always admired this about Bo and Harbaugh has left no doubt since Day One that those who play for him will learn more than just football. Kareem - who personally I feel has a huge upside - is a perfect example. "Learn how to manage your school work and then you will be allowed the honor of playing football."  With so many people in and out of his dog house in the relatively short period of time he's been here, it's apparent this is very much a part of his coaching philosophy. I think it is going to pay dividends in the long run. 

But as to Ryan and Johnny; these are perfect examples of concentrating solely on the game, both lacking certain elements for success in the NFL and being let go at such a young age, their lack of interest in things outside football pretty much paved the way for a young man with lots of money on their hands and lacking interests in anything substantive. I thought, based on the piece mentioned above in regard to Ryan that he had found a comfortable landing spot in the small school. It is nice reading, even though he was to be face with more obstacles, he was able to overcome them and move forward. I hope Manziel sees the light in the near future as well.