OT - Florida fires O.C.

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Listening to the phone interview provides some depth into the factors weighing on Brandon and Hoke in considering Borges.  Most notably, the common sensical concern any high profile OC would have in coming into an environment with increasingly unhappy fans, where there is the potential for a clean coaching sweep in a year or two.

This helps provide some insight as to the benefits born from Brandon's public display of support for Hoke, in helping the program not only hold high profile recruits, but also provide more comfort to potential replacement OCs in the event we go in that direction.

One major difference re timing - Florida's season is over, Michigan's still have a month.  Florida's travails and misadventures in managing this OC change can provide fans a glimpse of what we might be facing come January, again, again, if we go the route of firing my lovely avatar.

Creedence Tapes

December 1st, 2013 at 11:17 PM ^

Penn State, 7-5, though we had  a 7 point lead with about a minute left. and missed 2 game winning field goals in OT. MSU 11-1, only game we didn't have a shot. Nebraska, 8-4, we were leading with 8 minutes to go and couldn't hold on. Iowa, 8-4, again, we had a lead in the 4th and couldn't hold on. Ohio, 12-0, couldn't convert the extra point. We lost 4 games by a total of 11 points. 

Last year, MSU lost 5 games by a total of 13 points, and finished 7-6. One year later they are 11-1 . The sky is not falling, we've had some bad luck combined with youth on the interior line. We don't need to fire anybody. Stay the course.

SalvatoreQuattro

December 1st, 2013 at 10:22 PM ^

So long as we are arbitraily applying caveats.

 

Akron and UConn were bad because of turnovers. UM moved the ball well. The killer turnovers killed drives and scoring opportunities. The same for PSU.

 

Referencing scholarshio reductions in terms of PSU is crap. That doesn't make the statistics any less relevant.. Also, UM did most of its damage in regulation as they had 34 in regulation even with 3 turnovers.

 

It was really four games in 12. 

treetown

December 1st, 2013 at 10:40 PM ^

I think the only common thread is that in the games where he has been successfull, like the three games cited above, the offense was sharp and effective from the start. Against OSU 2013, the first three drives yielded 21 points. What is frustrating are the games when things are not going great but only OK or so-so - there is a also a common thread of not adjusting or making some significant change.

blueblueblue

December 1st, 2013 at 7:57 PM ^

I'm not so sure about a strong replacement candidate being a major factor. Can't they get into trouble if they go searching, even behind the scenes, for a replacement before firing a guy? I'm not sure how it works, but Hoke strikes me as the epitome of professionalism. I just can't see him not conducting a coaching change by the book - evaluate after the season, let someone go if he fails to meet Michigan's standards, and then look for a replacement. 

bronxblue

December 1st, 2013 at 9:41 PM ^

Florida has been atrocious on offense for years given the recruiting talent down there; I'm amazed he lasted this long.  Again, I'm not expecting a move at OC this year, but if UM was planning it they would need to move quickly because Florida is going to be in the market at least for a new OC (if not a new coach), and I'm not sure how great the pickings are.

Nantucket Blue

December 1st, 2013 at 9:47 PM ^

I think Borges, Funk, and Jackson are all problems, and all for different reasons. At times I think Fred is slipping, either in his ability to identify talent or develop it. I also think Borges is as hands off with Funk as Hoke is with Borges - the result being a lack of familiarity/too much trust. Then I blame Borges according to the oft repeated refrain around here, that his offense puts players in a position to fail.

For whatever reason, these three critical coaching areas have apparently not meshed well (from an outsiders perspective). That fault does lie with the O.C., but you never know if a positional coaching change is all that is needed/also needed, or a full house cleaning is in order.

IPFW_Wolverines

December 1st, 2013 at 9:51 PM ^

So Florida gets first crack at a new OC. Make this quick Hoke, get rid of Borges so  that Michigan can be in line for a top OC. There is no point in waiting for the bowl game.

tybert

December 1st, 2013 at 10:17 PM ^

And under Urban's final days. They got lucky with a great COLLEGE QB who was hard to defend. Muschamp got tired of waiting for Mack Brown to retire and went to follow a local legend. Now FSU, sans the Jameis Winston stuff, has taken back control of the state football lead. 

Sounds like the Boise guy either wasn't the mastermind he was alleged to be or got caught under the same "your will run XXX schemes" that Scott Shafer had to deal with as Michigan's one-year DC under Rich Rod and the ill-faetd 3-3-5 D, only Will may want man-ball when Florida teams can run spread.

 

tybert

December 1st, 2013 at 10:18 PM ^

Most people don't have to wait this long and go through so many changes. Witness MSU's O-Line shuffles a few years ago when they still won 10-11 games, in spite of O-Line issues early.

004

December 2nd, 2013 at 9:44 AM ^

To year two as we did from year one of spread to year two, our offense will be fine. Yes,Taters helped over Sheridan / Threet, but the whole team had a better grasp of the offensive philosophy and workings. This year was effectively year one of the transition to pro-style after two years of creative fusion cooking. With Bowl practices and spring ball, Borges can install more of the playbook (so maybe there is more than one play to a formation so as not to tip off the play -hint hint). I hope he keeps a little fusion spice in the playbook and that our young o-line hit the weights hard. I give him another year.