Myabe if he would have focused on catching sure interceptions instead of post-game tweets we could have made it a closer game.
OT: Controversial tweet by the Lions Aaron Berry
Lets be honest fans have a right to an opinion as you do with any product. Its pro sport so you have a right to expect the product (team) to give you a desired performance (wins) when you purchase tickets. Merch. Etc. if aaron barry doesnt like that then im sure a team will be glad to allow him to play for free. Our dbs are average at best.. We need a strong draft to overcome this exposed weakness asap! By the way fuck aaron berry!
Btw i would tell him that to his face anywhere anytime.. Hence why i didnt do it on twitter..
Just like any other 6'5" 300 lb center would buddy :)
He earned his money so why should he hide it? It is PC to not bring gloat about your income, but its not like we don't know professional athletes make money, so people being appalled by this is kinda silly.
Edit/ I believe you when you say that you would be stupid enough to tell this to his face
Why wouldn't someone tell him that to his face? Are you insinuating that he would commit violence if someone said those things to his face? What kind of weak-minded individual would do that?
Even if he would commit violence over it, I say, "do it." Have you seen most of these guys when they get in fights? They have no idea what they're doing, then you sue them and you'd no longer be broke and miserable.
I guess I am just a maroon and “twitter-challenged” as I can’t figure out what his original quote is on twitter. Get lost in all the abbreviations and slang.
Anyone want to brief what he posted for me, plz?
Didn't Lebron say sonething similar after his playoff exit last year. You stay classy Mr. Berry.
Lebron said something like 'go back to your pathetic lives picking on me' or 'at the end of the day ya'll still wake up in the morning with pathetic lives'
Fuck Aaron Berry, I hope they cut him anyways. He got burnt sooooo many times this year
Was this tweet for New Orleans fans?
Doesn't really matter if it was for New Orleans fans or Detroit fans.
I'm pretty sure this was in response to Lions fans who flooded his twitter with comments he didn't appreciate.
I felt like I was watching a RR secondary. Especially Berry was just getting roasted all damn night.
But let's not pretend that the Saints haven't done that to pretty much everyone in the league this year. Drew Brees did set the passing record this year. The secondary was bad, but at some point you have to give credit to how good that Saints offense really is, especially in the dome.
It's more on the Lions front 4 not being able to mount any pressure. Brees had all day to throw and when that happens you're in a world of hurt. The scondary can only do so much. Now that being said there were many plays where they were out of position and they also couldn't seem to tackle anyone.
I'm not saying the Lions D played well at all, but the Saints have been doing this to teams all year. At some point you have to give it up to them. This is one of the best offenses the NFL has ever seen. The Saints are just on a different level than the Lions at this point. Part of the problem not being able to get pressure too is that the Saints have one of the best offensive lines in the league. Let's face it, the Lions would have had to play a near perfect game to win. They definitely had a chance though, and who knows what could've happend if they capitalize on a couple of those missed opportunities. It is what it is. The Lions are a playoff team at this point, but not yet Superbowl contenders, and the Saints are.
You hit is spot on...Some delusional Lions fans actually thought they were the favorite...Did they not watch the Green Bay game? We are a year or two away from being true contenders.
Lions fans should be happy they got this far, not flooding the twitter of players that contributed (albeit ineffectively in Berrys case) to this playoff run.
But lets be real:
What are the differences between Detroit and New Orleans (and Green Bay/New England for that matter?)
None of those teams have great defenses. In fact, all three of their defenses rank below Detroit.
They have an advantage at QB, but Stafford is almost there. On his day, he can play with any of them. Also, we have the best receiver in football.
Our defensive front four is as talented as anyone. Last night they were outplayed by the Saints Oline and Cunningham did little to adjust. He should have just blitzed like a mad man since we weren't stopping Brees anyway and tried to force him into more turnovers.
In all honesty, we were an official's blown call and two easy interceptions away from this being down to the wire.
So many people making excuses like "Oh, we should be happy".... I'm happy Detroit's finally on the upswing, but acting like we couldn't have won this game is as dumb as thinking Michigan was going to go 7-5 this year.
IFs and couldas won't change the final score, and as UM fans know, that's all that matters....they owned our defense, just like Green Bay did before us...Our vaunted D-line is a sieve against the run and incossistent against the pass. We need a piece or two to give us some semblance of a good pass defense and get back a healthy rb. Then, we can win this game.
And the Saints D has been owned and Green Bay's has been owned and New England's D has been owned all season.
Yet those are the three best teams in the league?
Because they make two picks and their offenses are so good in makes up for a lack of defensive talent.
Once again, I'm not saying Detroit is quite there, but people on here act like this game was a foregone conclusion when two or three key plays could have swung it our way.
And to act lke you need those things you described doesn't make sense given the examples I've cited.
Between Detroit and the likes of NO/NE/GB you ask? The difference is that GB and NO have major weapons for their QB's all over the field. The WR cores are so far above the Lions, it's not even close. With Best out, the only real weapon the Lions have is Megatron. Pettigrew is a pretty good tight end, but is not in the ballpark of Graham or Finley, and besides Megatron, both receiving cores blow the Lions outta the water. As far as the Pats are concerned, people can say what they want, and I'm not saying this because I'm a homer, but New England has the best quarterback we have seen in the last twenty years on their team. Brady is unreal, and Belicheck is one of the greatest coaches ever. Just as I said on here in a recent post, the Lions are a playoff team right now, not a Superbowl contender like these other teams. Stafford is super young, and looks good already. I'm not saying they won't become Superbowl contenders, but they are still a few pieces away before they get there.
Yeah but even good CB's are gonna have a tough time in coverage when you give a good QB that much time to throw.
The amount of bust coverages the secondary had has little to none with what the Saints were doing. Their WRs were just waltzing into the endzone a couple times.
The Saints have so many weapons that they force teams into making bad decisions. I'm not saying whether you have or haven't, but watching the Saints this year, this happens against most teams they play. The Saints (particularlry Payton) are extremely good at out-schemeing people, and they have made people look stupid all year. I just think Lions fans have to come to a realization that it was a very slim chance that the Lions could go into New Orleans and win. I am by no means defending the Lions secondary, but I think in this case it is more about what New Orleans does, than how bad the Lions played. The Lions offense is awesome, and it still isn't near the level of New Orleans'. That offense is literally one of the best in the history of the league. Brees broke the all-time passing record, and they still had a top ten NFL rushing offense as well. That is insane. The Lions have to get better in the secondary no doubt, but very few teams are capable of slowing down New Orleans at this point.
The Lions GM should have realized before last year's draft that the Lions secondary could cover my grandmother and drafted someone other than the dirtiest college football player in the game.
I don't like it now either. It was a luxury pick for a team that can't afford luxuries yet.
Fairley was a good pick. Reaching for a lesser player because he happens to play a position you have a need at is not a wise decision. The Lions did the smart thing by taking Fairley as Williams is getting older and Hill is best as a rotational guy.
People said the same thing about Young....That turned out well. I think this offseason, they need to cut Vandenbosch or allow avril to go (I believe he is a free agent), and sign some veterans in the secondary...I still think Fairley will really be great next year as this year he was hampered all season by that foot injury.
You need two outside rushers at DE. Why in God's name would let Avril go? Vandenbosch is a situational player at this point. If anything the Lions needs another end who can rush the passer.
The Lions need all sorts of help on defense that much is obvious. CB, LB, and DE are needs.
More than anything, I wish is that people would communicate clearly when using twitter. I have no idea what the fuck he's trying to say here.
Obviously not cool, but if fans were all over him roasting him for dropping those picks, I'd be understandably upset. He played a strong game against the New Orleans offense. Sure, the picks would've been nice, but you can't pin the game on those plays.
He's going to be a hell of a player, I hope Detroit doesn't look too unfavorably on him for this.
I don't know, that first pick could have really driven the dagger in deep the way our offense was clicking at the time. Can of course never put a game on one play or player though. The fumble/incomplete pass/dead ball touchdown would have had a similar effect. I''m with you on the tweet though. Really stupid but if you continue to poke the guy when I'm sure he's already beating himself up about it what do you expect him to say? Not everyone can have the poise of a Brady Hoke.
Well...that was stupid. I hate when players make comments like this. Twitter is great because you really can see the raw emotion form players and people, etc. but people really need to learn when and when NOT to tweet.
Another reason why I love college sports over professional sports. I don't feel like you'd get a comment like that from a college kid. Not that they're immune to saying stupid stuff, but that's just professional arrogance at its worst. I don't care if you just lost or what.
Read "3 & Out" - college players actually do express frustration at fans and students ("normies") for not understanding the work that players put into the game. And I'm sure if we look hard enough we can find an example of an ill-advised tweet coming from a college player.
Well, he can actually tweet this cause he did. But he shouldn't have. You can't let fans taunt you into stupidity nor let them get under your skin.
And yes, you need to make the interceptions. That (among many things) cost Detroit the game. Missed opportunities (and seized ones) make all the difference in the world. Exhibit A: the Sugar Bowl last week, where Michigan seized opportunities, and VaTech let them slip from their hands.
his tweet would be offensive to 99% of the U.S. Berry is part of the 1%! Occupy Aaron Berry has begun
whoever she is, she has huge goals
Big Tits McGee. Obvs.
Aaron Berry played terrible as did the entire Detroit defense. What he did was ignorant and obviously done out of anger and frustration. He will regret that message soon enough if he doesn't already.
However, I think it is hilarious when fans start talking shit to players. You are a fan, you are obviously not good at sports or you would be out there. You are watching grown men play a game that has no bearing on your life at all. People need to take a step back and effing relax. Do not send tweets to a player because you are mad they played like shit. It is pathetic. Grow the fuck up.
Like Jim Rome says..."Twitter can be the best thing ever and the worst thing ever"
Eh... I would say it can be the worst thing ever, or just another thing. I don't know about best thing ever.
Let alone being the best thing ever. There is simply no need for anyone to ever announce their thoughts instantaneously to the entire world. If something is that important there are a million other ways to communicate it in a way that allows at least a moment to reflect before sending.
I think its good because its instant information. I found out about Hoke being hired from Twitter. Darren Rovell has a lot of interesting things he tweets. I think there is an upside in Twitterverse
I have a hunch that you'd have found out about Hoke being hired even if Twitter didn't exist.
But it was fun refreshing all those times.
Twitter allows as much time as you want to reflect before sending.
How ridiculous. It's only because of the die-hard fans that have passion for sports that these players can make millions of dollars doing what they do. If fans didn't care enough, the players wouldn't make squat. What are they making all that money for if they can't catch a freaking ball or cover a receiver at all?? I could go out there and drop a pass - please pay me that money instead.
I a die hard fan as anybody. My point is that tweeting somebody in this manner is pointless. Why did these people do it? Are they frustrated? Probably, but there are better ways to handle frustration than attacking someone over social media. It accomplishes nothing. If want to relieive your frustration yell at your TV for a few minutes, I did, it was theraputic. I never thought to tweet Mr. Berry and tell him how bad he played. I am sure he knows and even if he doesn't it doesn't accomplish anything. You are just wasting your time (as I am doing writing this on a blog but whatever).
I may not know much...but have played and seen enough football to know that at the highest level if the ball hits your hands TWICE in the same game you should probably pick those passes off.
Other than that he is probably right.
As a professional athlete, you have to hold yourself to a higher standard. I don't defend fans for saying things that they say to athletes on twitter, but you can't say things like this. Because no matter what you might have wanted to say, it will always come off completely wrong. Once you hit send/tweet, you can't get it back.
I agree 100% he should have just ignored the morons. Not going to defend him one bit. It just amazes me how stupid fans are. It really shouldn't because I have played enough sports to know how stupid they are and how "all knowing" they can be. Of course I was lucky enough to play before all this social media crap. If they had something to say to me, it was to my face. Funny enough, not much was ever said.
Being a dick to someone on Twitter is exactly like booing a player at the stadium. The fan thinks he can say whatever he wants, no matter how vile, because they are safe from reprisal. I don't see a lot of people booing NFL players on the street, for fear of getting their dick kicked in the dirt.
Players hear the booing (read the tweets) but generally don't respond, because they could give a fuck less about what someone who doesn't know the difference between quarters and cover 2 thinks, and because they are rich and famous. But occasionally, a player freaks out. Rodman kicks a cameraman in the dick (lot of that going on in this post), Barkley spits, Artest punches. And we are all shocked when stuff like this happens.
Berry has just pulled a digital-age-Brian Cox and given the middle finger to the booers. Not a huge deal. But he is a shitty player.
College athletes should be held to a higher standard bc they represent an institution first and foremost. But why should the pros hold themselves to a higher standard. The teams want them to win a championship and make ownership money. The players are there to get paid and play the game they love. These players don't have to be role models to your kids or your favorite player. You should be your kids role model...
And I am sure some of these fans who are appalled are Jackasses themselves at their work from time to time. Just chill people
Pro athletes should be held to a higher standard than college athletes. They're grown men.
Aaron Berry has been traded to Bolivia.
Get rid of him!
Something tells me Aaron Berry isn't good at anything besides football, and "good" is in comparison to the average human.
I bet this was his last game in his NFL career
I just want to speak directly to the trolls who have harassed aaron berry, terry richardson, erik magnuson, and anyone else through social media: YOU ARE A PIECE OF SHIT.
if you can't take that...make your shit private or don't go on twitter.
You cnat give assholes a forum to harass you then complain when assholes harass you. Does any NFL player really think that NFL fans will reign constant praise upon them despite their poor play/ off the field behavior?
There is one fool proof method to not be harassed on Twitter; don't open a twitter account.
hmmm, Detroit players and future wolverines are two different groups.
I'm with you Blake, mostly because I can't resist that look.
I really do agree with your sentiment though. Pretty classless to be sending hateful messages to a guy for dropping the ball a couple times. If you want to rip on him on a radio show or on a blog such as this, such is your right, but no one deserves that kind of harassment. Don't stoop to buckeye behavior Detroit.
he isn't 17 years old and in high school. he's a grown man (allegedly) who makes a buttload of money generated from fans.
I'd always hoped there was a way to make a season-ending loss just a tad more miserable. Kudos, Aaron Berry!
"LockDown" seems like a very ironic Twitter handle for one Aaron Berry.
Twitter is sooo fucking stupid. "Tweet" your thoughts. Berry is a piece of shit.
the lions and team 132 are the same on defense. we know the front 4 are good but to me atleast it seems like they have been underachieving. the linebackers have good play but are out of position on a couple key plays. a couple question marks throughout the season. and the secondary has one good safety (delmas/kovacs) and then guys that can make plays yet they can be atrocious at the same time. atleast we have a slightly easier fix. i think we can have like 31 more ppl on scholarship than the lions have on the team. and a fresh crop of 18-27 people a year. i am a die hard lions and m fan and am happy the wolverines can fix these woes within 2 years whereas the lions may take a year of free agency/draft or 5+ years depending on how personell decisions work out. whats that? he was projected as a top 10 pick? and he plays wide receiver? well we'd be stupid not to pick him up in the mid/late first round when we have dire needs elsewhere......
Michigan didn't cost their team games with stupid penalties. And team 132 isn't piss poor in the defensive secondary. Your post is a reach...
They remind me more of Michigan state. They've sucked forever but in two years think that decent seasons have earned them the respect of the universe. They play overrated defense that's dirty and far from reliable. Their coach is a hot shot dick. Quarterback always has one last pick in him. Pretty much the same team. Oh yeah , also they'll never win because all they care about is proving they're not losers. Go pack (Woodson) , go steelers (woodley), go 49ers ( harbaugh) go ravens ( harbaugh) .....
I can't believe I forgot...above all go patriots.
It seems to me that tweeting when frustrated or upset is generally a recipe for a PR catastrophe even if you're not someone of Berry's relative stature and even if nobody saw your performance on national TV. Whether it's a close circle of friends or an entire fanbase, it's not a good idea - 140 characters is not enough space to provide context for such statements, so if you were being sarcastic, ironic, or whatever, it probably didn't come through.
The problem now is that whatever he did in that game now almost doesn't matter - it is here on this blog, it has likely been retweeted all over the place, and very rarely do retractions or apologies get retweeted quite like the initial statement. Whatever thinking Berry did in the interim will not be heard by most, and that's unfortunate for him. Personally, I would imagine he was responding to criticisms of his on-field performance (and there are valid criticisms of his performance in that game, yes), but if you're a pro athlete, it is probably wise never to respond directly to such things, at least immediately after the performance in question.
I wonder what the organization does about it now? Other than have him issue some sort of apology (other than the short one on Twitter now), it doesn't seem like there is much to do. Thanks to Twitter, people can now shoot themselves in the foot and bleed all over the world.
If he starts playing better next year, nobody will give a shit about the tweet. But it is a great distraction and gives angry fans someone at whom to direct their anger over the loss. The Lions aren't the first team to have trouble with the Saints, who averaged 34.2 a game during the regular season this year. 45 is a good game, but nothing they haven't done before.
All in all, on a scale of one to ten, this is a one that got temporarily elevated to relevance by angry fans.
Who knows what he's been putting up with lately. Everyone has their breaking point. He probably would rather have dealt with the situation face to face. No big deal.
He didn't have a good game. I'm already over it. He's going to relive those couple of plays, over and over in his mind. I feel bad for him in that respect.
Everybody needs to let it go!
Berry had to know going on twitter after that game he was not going to find a lot of positive comments. If he didn't think there wouldn't be any ass clown comments then he is either stupid or delusional. To me it seems like he was actually looking for a fight just by getting on and reading the comments and then he must have read enough of them to upset him so much. Probably after the first couple he should have gotten the picture but it seems he read quite a few. This guy doesn't deserve a pass and if a bunch of tweets from random idiots affects him so bad he needs to get off twitter and get his mental game stronger.
Nobody in the limelight should be using twitter! There's no upside!
Indignation over things like this puzzle me. The only legit reason to be offended is if he is directing it at you, and if that's the case, you probably deserve it for being an internet tough guy on Twitter. Otherwise, you're just projecting your frustration on Berry as a scapegoat.
Just another reason the Lions are just the Spartans of the NFL, imo
I'm going to go out on a limb and say you aren't a Lions fan. Yet you took the time to post this inflammatory rhetoric about the pro football team that most of the people on this blog most likely support and then compared that team to one of the chief rivals of UM in a thread about the Lions.
How troll-ey of you.
I'm not really a fan of any particular NFL team, just an objective observer. I find it interesting how much shit we give Sparty fans about their team's lack of discipline and lack of class, then see how many of the same people support the Lions who continually display the same traits.
When the Lions commit multiple felonious assaults on average, non-football-playing people, and break the neck of one of those people, and their coach laughs it off, let me know. Til then I think there's quite a difference between Sparty and the Lions.
The Lions were the bad joke of the NFL, they were punching bag for years. Now they have their own attitude, whether it's dirty or not, they are finally getting out of the gutter and it seems not everyone can handle it. I would rather my team be known as rough or dirty then being the wet noodle that they were for years while everyone laughed and took advantage. People don't like them, then fine that just let's me know that the Lions are finally relevant.
Then drops this on the twitter-verse. Brilliant move knucklehead.
seriously? his tweet id is shutdown717?
I fixed it for you: "This is why letting players on Twitter after a game is a great idea" - visceral reaction.
He works for the fans believe it or not. We buy the tickets and if he is back I will not be. F his poor play and baby attitude. When people slam me I answer back, but usually to try to educate or correct my weaknesses. His twitter name should be fined by the NFL for conduct unbecoming to the NFL.
I hope you are right but I don't think they are on the verge. Every year about 5 or 6 teams make the playoffs and then fail to make the playoffs the next year. I see the Lions as one of the teams that will not make the playoffs next year. If they do something significant to upgrade the defense (like find their own Mattison), then maybe they can challenge for a superbowl in the next few years.
Also, i think you mean Stafford and not Stanton.
Lose big, lose close, win close, win big. We're right on track.
you want some hate tweets? You suck cuz you cant catch a ball. Plus you degrade people in Detroit cuz of a few bad tweets that you really deserve. You a fucking garbage and an embarrassment to Detroit
Why is his twitter handle Lockdown717? The only thing he locked down was watching WRs run by him all night long.
Gunther is a very good DC at this point. Smith didn't even run to the ball after he got burned deep. The team needs to get some attitude adjustments and a DC who can coach the guys to get off the field.
He's free to say what he wants - he just needs to understand that when you give up a record number of yards in your first playoff game, you are going to hear about it. He's a big boy, and he already apologized. Life will go on. And I hate to say it, but as a Detroit-ish native (RO and Ferndale), not really bothered by the comments.