Don't you mean "Guaranteed loss"?
Don't you mean "Guaranteed loss"?
That show got shit canned.
Why? It seemed to working pretty well.
Wow. Fister K's Youkilis and Dunn to get out of bases loaded one out jam in the Third. September baseball is fantastic
Sox tie it up and still batting in 4th. 3-3
Tigers were up 3-0 but have allowed 3 this inning. The White Sox tie it up. :(
It's never over until we're mathematically eliminated, but I agree that it would be difficult not to feel like it's over. We have to play one of the hottest teams in baseball (granted, at home) and the White Sox have a series against the Royals. It could easily be 4-5 game difference a few days from now. Baseball is crazy though, so you never know.
have series against the Angels and Rays down the stretch. That LA series is on the road I believe. Chicago has the slightly harder schedule down the stretch, Tigers have one series against a team above .500, Chicago has two. I wouldn't say it's completely over if they lose this game, but it is about as close as you can get to it being a must win game.
Fister's not very sharp today. Chicago now has runners on 2nd and 3rd with no outs. Fisters out, Alburquerque's coming in.
Definitely. I think we have an easier schedule to close the year, but three games is just a lot to come back from. Winning this game would make me feel like I should expect to win the division. Losing it would make me feel like we're on the outside looking in.
of thinking at the moment as well.
Anyone have a stream for this game?
Thanks in advance
EDIT: found one: http://www.vipboxsports.eu/watch/75159/1/chicago-white-sox-vs-detroit-tigers-live-stream-online.html
Very tough play, but Fielder has to make that dig. Kind of makes up for it on the next play.
that could have ended the inning goes through Prince's legs into the dugout. 5-4 Chicago. Hard to fault Infante for the throw, that takeout slide was nasty. It short hopped Prince , but in a game like this he needs to be able to make the tough play and dig that out.
Prince could take a lesson from Dunn on how to field his position. This is just depressing.
on most days for Chicago.
I will be as grumpy as I want to be. Especially after being subjected to yesterday's crapfest.
5 or so. First things first, the Tigers pen has to keep this game where it is.
Well the 5th inning has been the bane of the Tigers existence the last 2 days. Omar's inability to turn a DP is just baffling , 8 errors since joining the team?? Unreal how bad this defense is.
that take out slide was pretty nasty, difficult not to come up short on that throw. I would agree however, that his defense has not been what I expected. He seemed to perform much better as a fielder in Miami and Atlanta.
I would also like to point out that despite the Tigers defense being bad it could be worse. They are 8th in the AL and fielding percentage, and around 16th or so in the MLB. Of course, part of the issue at a couple of spots is a lack of range, still there are several teams that have committed more errors. So like I said it could be even worse.
Fielding % isn't really indicative of good defense, what's really a telling stat is that the Tigers lead the AL in unearned runs.
Look I dont want Dombrowski to go all 2009 and employ players like Adam Everett and Jaque Jones but upgrading shortstop and Right Field seem like absolute musts.
a stat that is spartially reliant on pitcher's performance after the error though. Really what that tells me is that the Tigers pitching staff hasn't done as good of a job of working around errors as some of those other staffs.
The pitching staff has been lights out for over a month, the inconsistent offense, and too a lesser extent the defense has killed this team.
with 20 or 30 or more errors, but yet the Tigers have 20 or more unearned runs, part of that equation is how those other staffs have worked around errors. Also I would like to point out that for the first half of the year, the pitching staff wasn't any better than those other components, at least statistically.
I don't disagree with your overall point about what the Tiger's major issues have been, but like I said the unearned stat is not strictly a metric that only pertains to defensive performance.
Wow, huge strikeout for Coke. Don't blow it here now, you filthy punk.
What's up with all these dirty staches on the White Sox players?
I don't know, but I hate it, and I hate them, and I hate everything right now.
The mustache is a tribute to former White Sox coach Kevin Hickey who died at the age of 56 earlier in the year. Some of the Sox players have their mustaches like that to honor him.
Pretty ridiculous huh?
Had a seizure on a road trip at the beginning of the season and never recovered. The players loved the guy.
Well it's certainly getting bleak, still cannot believe how this game turned. 3-0 with Fister on the mound and he suddenly loses command and can't throw strikes, and the defense strikes again in a bad way. Fielder with some poor, poor swings too.
game. I will say this about Infante, he has made some good/difficult plays at times, but obviously he has also made way too many errors as well.
lethargic moments from this team, I'd almost rather they miss the playoffs and end Leyland and McClendon's regime. Yes, they need to rearrange the roster a bit but they could also use a reboot at Skipper: Kirk Gibson would be perfect, but maybe they could also take a run at Francona, or lure Macha or Maddon away.
I have a feeling Tito is going to be the next guy. I'm only one foot in on the fire Leyland thing. I wouldn't be mad, but I wouldn't be ecstatic. It certainly feels like we need to change direction though.
be torn. Anything can happen if you get into the playoffs, as evidenced by some of the teams that have ended up winning the World Series recently.
As far as questioning these team's effort or suggesting they haven't been giving 100% I don't buy that. I don't think effort has been issue, in fact I think trying to hard has been part of the issue for some of the players who haven't performed. Guys like Boesch have looked like they have been pressing all year and simply trying to do too much.
Still wants Leyland gone.
I might just go on a crazy mailbox smashing rampage if Manny Acta is hired as the skipper. Bob Melvin might be in line for a nice raise if Mr. I sees that as a fit.
Brett Freakin Myers.
for Oakland tommorow. 6-0 with a 1.77 ERA. Of course, Scherzer has been pitching as well as anybody, so at least there is that.
Chicago now has runners on 2nd and 3rd with only one out. Tigers have to hold this to a one run game.
We can only hope. Fire Leyland.
Oh my thank you Dewayne Wise! Please just let Miggy get a chance this inning.
by the White Sox, runners out at 3rd before he scored. Not sure what Wise was thinking, and the runner wasn't running hard either. Hopefully they can take advantage of it.
Where is Raburn when you need him?!
The problem with that is we seem to have the most trouble with inferior teams. Needless to say, I won't be watching the rest of the way. Wake me up if they make the playoffs.
fan. As I pointed out in my other post, the next ten are at home. They have played great at home in the second half, that at least gives me some hope.
Fairweather fans don't root for their team during a 119 loss season like I did, so I've earned the goddamn right to throw a hissy fit about the Tigers. Just in a season like this where they have a World Series caliber roster and rotation and constantly blow it with their poor play and decisions (by coaches and players alike), my heart can't take watching them play down to their opponents' level any more this season. So what I'm saying is, because the Royals and Twins are teams they should handedly beat, but will most likely play tight, from this point on I will cheer and get angry at the boxscore on ESPN at the end of the game, but not from in front of my tv.
have done in the past that gives you a free pass as far as throwing in the towel prematurely this year. Give me a break, you can slice it however you want, but it is what it is.
Who the hell said I was throwing in the towel? Read what I said, because I'm damn sure I said I can't watch anymore games on tv and will just follow box scores from now on. Besides, my fanhood will not be under scrutiny from a nameless, faceless stranger on a blog.
Go Tigers, and enjoy whatever damn opinion you decide you want to bestow upon my fanhood.
Never tell me the odds.
And I'm throwing in the towel. Not mathematically eliminated but this team looks finished, it truly feels like a chore watching this team flounder with mediocrity.
That about sums it up.
the same time it isn't over yet. The odds aren't in their favor obviously, but after what happened last year with Wild Card races we learnd that it isn't over until it's over. Hopefully LA and TB can beat up on Chicago. Not to mention some help from KC is possible as they have had Chicago's number. Of course, that doesn't matter unless the Tigers put together a great last 16 games.
Also the Tigers play the next 10 at home. They have been a completely different team at home. So in short it doesn't look good, but it's not time to throw in the towel yet. I don't see a team that has given up, if they had given up they would be getting blown out, not losing close one run ball games.
A team can only lose so many close games before it gets to them mentally, if the Sox only go 9-7 down the stretch the Tigers have to go 12-4 just to tie. I have not seen any evidence that this team has what it takes to put a stretch like that together.
the Tigers have been very good at home in the second half. I am pretty sure they have had a couple of 12-4 type stretches on the year, so I fail to see how they aren't capable of that, given the fact that Oakland is the only team they play above .500.
Like I said, Chicago doesn't have a cakewalk down the stretch, KC has had their number all year and they have 7 against LA and TB. I could definatly see the White Sox only going .500 in the last 16.
Don't overreact just yet. There is a lot of baseball left. 3 game is nothing.
Tigers are 2-13 in one run games since August 9. That just isn't going to cut it.
"should win." Hey, Detroit has an easier schedule in the final weeks, right? Tigers go 13-3, getting swept by the resurgent A's but sweeping the Twins and Royals. White Sox go 9-7, getting swept by the Rays and Angels but sweep the Royals and Indians. Or figure the rest of the games will go *something* like that, based on the SOS. Even in that unlikely scenario, the Tigers only win the Central by a game. A GAME!!! Anyone who says there are still plenty of games left, hey that's fine but yesterday and today were monumentally important and now the Tigers have a steeeeeeep uphill climb, no longer in control of their own destiny.
is running out and they are going to need help, but on the other end of the spectrum time hasn't completely run out yet. A 3 game lead with 16 games left is not safe by any stretch.
Football is first on my mind this time of year or else I would be extremely frustrated.
Short of injury, I don't think the White Sox will lose to the Tigers. They're hungry (after coming in 2nd last year.) More than that, Dunn is now healthy, and they won't throw away games defensively. I have real doubts about how far they'll go, but you never know in the post season. They actually have decent bats, good pitching, and good defense. They certainly could catch lightning in a bottle, and go further than many expect. Doubtful, but it could happen.
quite yet. Both Atlanta and Boston, blew bigger leads than 3 games last year.
What do you guys think about picking up Francona as a manager?