Is Nico Collins the most underutilized All-American caliber WR in U-M history?

Submitted by denardsdreads on November 4th, 2019 at 1:02 PM

For some reason, targets aren't listed as part of a player's cumulative stats, so I went through each game to tally up Nico Collins' targets. Another note: drawn (or committed) pass interference penalties don't go down as targets unless declined pic.twitter.com/pI91EzcmUl

— Orion Sang (@orion_sang) November 4, 2019

He has 22 catches for 439 yards (20.0 ypc) and 3 TDs — and has drawn six accepted pass interference penalties, all of which converted third downs and five of which that resulted in four touchdowns and a field goal

— Orion Sang (@orion_sang) November 4, 2019

So ... based on tallying everything up ... in addition to the 22 catches for 439 yards and three touchdowns, he has also accrued 7+4+15+15-15+15+9 = 50 yards in penalty yardage and six first downs

— Orion Sang (@orion_sang) November 4, 2019

Bodogblog

November 4th, 2019 at 4:58 PM ^

I don't understand why people believe, at this point, Tarik Black is a draftable prospect.  He hasn't shown that.  Watch football every Saturday and you'll see dozens of players who look as good and produce at a much, much higher level than Black per target.  I'd be ecstatic if he were drafted, because it would mean he came back for another year and was excellent.  He has not been so this year. 

JPC

November 4th, 2019 at 7:03 PM ^

We have one “for sure” NFL guy, and that’s DPJ and a lot of that are his measurables. The idea that our #3 WR  is a medium to high round draft prospect is silly. 

There’s a reason why Bell is getting so many targets. 

spider-sal

November 4th, 2019 at 7:05 PM ^

I agree. He started out as a productive 6’2/6’2.5 freshman receiver that ran great routes. 2 full injury plagued seasons later and now he’s a 6’5 fully weaponized man-child that will score every time if you can only get it within the same area code as him. 

I like him and really hope he comes back,  and I’m sure the offense hasn’t been optimal for him, but he hasn’t been playing up to the hype.

Bo Harbaugh

November 4th, 2019 at 9:37 PM ^

Black has not been the same since the 2 injuries. Not getting the separation he got freshman year when he was the best of the trio. Hoping he comes back fully healthy and more explosive than ever next year, and doesn’t enter the portal.

Collins is a big boy and a great downfield target...in college.  He struggles to get separation on most routes.  He’ll be a good red zone weapon in the NFL, but doesn’t have the speed to take the top off the defense at the professional level, where CB and safety play are much better.

DPJ has the most NFL upside per measurable. (Speed, height, vertical). He’s the proverbial freak combine athlete. Unfortunately, his route running is not very fluid, meaning he would potentially only be effective as an outside receiver early in his NFL career. The league really likes guys that can play both slot and on the outside, as this drives defenses nuts (Antonio Brown/Odell Beckham Jr)

All 3 have the potential to play in the league - none are the first round elite types we expected before the year began, even if DPJ manages to slip into late round 1 based on potential.

Yes, Shea leaves a lot to be desired in terms of reads and progressions, but this narrative that our receivers are always winning matchups and shea is missing at least 15 open receivers a game is bs.

Bell has been the best receiver this year because he runs the most slippery routes and is our best slot, and decent on the outside as well.  His hands still need some work, but to be fair, all our big 4 have had some bad drops this year. Bell simply gets the most separation right now, be it because of the design of the offense or his crisp route running.

If you want to see what an elite UM receiver looks like, in terms of getting separation on both the outside and in the slot, go watch some film of Mario Manningham.  His double moves were sick, and his slants were run with perfect precision. Braylon, of course, was also elite by his JR year, but he dominated mostly based on size and speed...and his hands often let him down.

Im hoping 2 of the big 3 stay, to join Bell and sansristail to form a balanced core 4. 

 

 

colonel

November 6th, 2019 at 8:12 PM ^

This was a remarkably lucid and honest assessment of the wide receivers. Well done! I would add that our wide-outs, as has been noted many, many times, are gifted enough to win jump balls against most college secondary players, but we don't throw enough of those balls. Why we don't make more of those throws is a mystery. It could be that Shea is too skittish to do so, or cannot recognize when it's a good idea. It could be that Harbaugh zealously coaches his QB's not to put the ball in harms way. It could be both...

I don't know, but like everyone else, I'd like to see the QB's air it out downfield for our wide-outs more often. 

Newton Gimmick

November 4th, 2019 at 6:14 PM ^

MGoBlog just needs to recruit some better trolls.  11W is consistently getting the best ones -- granted, with an advantage of home-state jerkass talent.  The guys we're getting show occasional flashes of talent, but do not have the discipline of a winner.  They are 3-star trolls at best.

Eng1980

November 4th, 2019 at 7:37 PM ^

He caught what Devin threw his way.  Unfortunately, they were lobs over the middle and Funchess sacrificed his body on just about every catch.  Sad story is that Funchess got racked all season long.  It was sad that he let up as the season went on but I can't blame him.  Funchess was getting abused in that offense while mostly in losing efforts.

xtramelanin

November 4th, 2019 at 4:27 PM ^

actually, its not a good look for any athlete at most any age past, say, middle school, to be yucking it up if you're getting your head handed to you by a rival.  it says nothing about 'entitlement' by hillbilly, but everything about kids having their heads right for competition.  that is not to say you might never have a light moment during a tense game, but as a generalization, not good. 

and you can't embarrass hillbilly, he married his sister twice because both of her teeth were real pretty.  

pinkfloyd2000

November 4th, 2019 at 1:08 PM ^

Well, this post already has me thinking ahead to November 30 and our offensive game plan. And I'm thinking that we send Nico, Tarik and DPJ deep on nearly every play and arm punt it, and hope for either a catch or a defensive PI/hold. 

 

Blue Middle

November 4th, 2019 at 1:31 PM ^

I know you're being funny, but the "Deep State" offenses and their modern equivalents use arm punts where the ball is out in less than three seconds to take deep shots.  McSorley seemed to throw the ball as high as it went far.

Fades don't have to be 50 yards downfield, despite Michigan's use of the deep passing game.

stephenrjking

November 4th, 2019 at 1:12 PM ^

Knew who posted this before I clicked. 

Classic Maizen troll drivel. Can't simply discuss the issue that Nico may be underutilized (all of the receivers are, of course, as some of us have discussed for some time); it has to be "the most underutilized All-American caliber WR in U-M history." 

Then he'll say something to the effect of "I don't know how you have me confused with someone else, I just joined." Because a few people who haven't been around will buy it. 

He's not serious in this. He's a troll with a limited dialectic vocabulary. 

My advice to the OP: Get a hobby and spend less time online. Won't be taken, of course; never is. A few tantrums, then a ban, and then another one of his shadow accounts will start spouting off again about whichever issue sparks its fancy. Juwan Howard, perhaps. 

RockinLoud

November 5th, 2019 at 10:49 AM ^

Oh hi Maizen! If you can't see what the problem with what you do is by this point after dozens on this site have tried to do (including myself), then there's truly no helping you and you need to seek some professional help for yourself. Not joking, and not mocking, but you clearly have a disorder than needs to be treated.