ND players to vote on bowl game?
Apparently the ND players are holding a super secret, player-only meeting this afternoon to "vote" on whether or not they are going to play in a bowl game this year.
Even if the players decide to quit on the season, what are the chances that ND passes up millions of dollars to play in the Hawaii bowl when they owe Charlie "Baby Beluga" Weis $18 million and plan on hiring Bob Stoops?
I'm going with -1000000%
November 30th, 2009 at 2:38 PM ^
any college team voting to NOT go to a bowl game. Not in this day and age. Even if the players don't want to play in some crappy bowl, Mr. Swarbrick and the rest of the ND administrators will see that it happens.
Hey, maybe Cornflakes will get the interim tag for the game.
November 30th, 2009 at 2:50 PM ^
When I was watching ESPN this mornining they stated that Swarbrick would decide in accord to the teams wishes...
November 30th, 2009 at 3:20 PM ^
Notre Dame voted against playing in a bowl game sometime in the 90's.
November 30th, 2009 at 4:37 PM ^
when they could still make the argument they were "above" certain bowls. No more.
November 30th, 2009 at 2:38 PM ^
Why would the players decide to quit on the season? That's absurd. There's absolutely no reason ND should deny a bowl bid. Unless Charlie refuses to coach. Which, if I were a player, I'd still want to trip and free goodies.
November 30th, 2009 at 3:01 PM ^
"super secret paper-only meeting" lol so how did you find out? I wonder if you read the same newspaper article that I did? Probably not because you would then know it is the leadership committee who is voting and not the all the players.
Why would they vote not to go to a bowl game? Weis was the reason why many of them came to ND to play football, that shouldn't be taken lightly.
November 30th, 2009 at 3:14 PM ^
So if it's paper only does that mean there is no talking allowed? Will the players be able to write or must they cast their vote by folding ballots into assorted shapes?
November 30th, 2009 at 3:49 PM ^
I have no idea what you meant by paper only so don't ask me
November 30th, 2009 at 4:02 PM ^
you came up with the "paper-only" meeting
November 30th, 2009 at 4:05 PM ^
wow that flew right over my head lol
November 30th, 2009 at 4:59 PM ^
like you alluded to in a previous post, at least ND has the option to vote on a bowl game. Although, I wonder if Michigan would have become bowl eligible with ND's schedule. USC, Pitt, Stanford and Purdue(!) are all losses. Does Michigan beat UConn or Navy this year?
November 30th, 2009 at 5:05 PM ^
It was a tough schedule but thats not an excuse a ND head coach will ever be afforded by ND fans. Your supposed to have the toughest schedule and never lose.
November 30th, 2009 at 6:41 PM ^
Funny how it's considered a tough schedule after the fact, but before the season many were touting it as a soft schedule that would allow ND to creep into a BCS game.
November 30th, 2009 at 7:15 PM ^
Yeah and everyone says next years schedule will be easy already, we will see
November 30th, 2009 at 6:35 PM ^
It would have been close... But who would have won the game vs. Michigan????
November 30th, 2009 at 3:17 PM ^
I think it's funny how the ND football team has a leadership committee. Do they also have a party planning committee?
November 30th, 2009 at 3:51 PM ^
lol thats pretty funny, at least they have something to vote on
November 30th, 2009 at 3:54 PM ^
Not cool. Dont come around here with that shit. That is all.
November 30th, 2009 at 4:01 PM ^
Is there a problem with the ND seniors still having a chance to go to a bowl game in spite of how the final third of the season ended?
November 30th, 2009 at 4:06 PM ^
Not a problem at all, and the team voting on a bowl game seems pretty cool to me. You just really have to have some decorum when participating on another team's blog, lest you be called a troll (whatever that really means)
November 30th, 2009 at 4:34 PM ^
Shut the fuck up, dude. Irish is a solid MGoPoster. You can't take a fucking joke?
November 30th, 2009 at 4:58 PM ^
Ooh, the classic internet tough guy - "Shut the fuck up"? Are you fucking for real? I have been a long supporter of Irish. Pay some fucking attention. It just seems lately he takes out his frustration here. And I thought I would fucking call him on it.
(I used three "fucks" to your two, therefore I am tougher than you)
November 30th, 2009 at 5:01 PM ^
You typed this:
Not cool. Dont come around here with that shit. That is all.
And you're calling me an internet tough guy? Pot, kettle. Etc.
November 30th, 2009 at 5:19 PM ^
If you think there is no difference between - "Not cool. Dont come around here with that shit. That is all", and "Shut the fuck up, dude" then I feel bad for your social life.
November 30th, 2009 at 5:22 PM ^
No, it's pretty much the same thing. You were going out of your way to be an asshole. So was I.
November 30th, 2009 at 5:07 PM ^
obligatory f-bombs!
hi
November 30th, 2009 at 4:02 PM ^
see bouje I am still not perfect :)
November 30th, 2009 at 4:12 PM ^
Showing your true colors again. Just trolling for an opportunity to stick it to Michigan. While some find your opinions interesting this type of commentary exposes you as a classless jack-ass.
November 30th, 2009 at 4:35 PM ^
It's a fucking JOKE. Can't you take him making a harmless joke about Michigan football? Regardless, he's much more established, and has a better track record of posting here, than you.
November 30th, 2009 at 4:53 PM ^
Chitown - simple answer "no". IMO, it is in poor taste to mock Michigan for not going to a bowl on a Michigan blog. As for the comparison of the quality respective posts that is a matter of opinion. What can't be debated is that I am all in for Michigan and have been for a very long time - I support all Michigan teams and want them to win every game. Our esteemed guest poster can't say the same so I'd appreciated it if you cut me a little slack for taking offense to his comments.
November 30th, 2009 at 5:00 PM ^
No, I won't. If you take Michigan football so seriously that you can't shake off a joke as innocuous a joke as the one Irish made, I feel bad for you. Further, I don't think team allegiances are a good reason to be an asshole to someone. So, he roots for ND. Does that mean he needs to cow-toe to you?
November 30th, 2009 at 5:08 PM ^
Check the definition of cow-toe in the online "Urban dictionary" - you will get a good laugh.
November 30th, 2009 at 5:12 PM ^
Oy vey. Make that "kowtow".
November 30th, 2009 at 5:18 PM ^
I definitely don't want him to cow-toe me!
November 30th, 2009 at 6:29 PM ^
This typy of commentary exposes you as a humorless idiot..
and Irish has much more credibility than you ATM...
November 30th, 2009 at 3:02 PM ^
...and warriors always want one more battle to fight. They should vote unanimously to play. And if there is a dissenting vote or two, I can't imagine them ever being taken seriously in the locker room or on the field by their teammates again.
Any team captain would say, "if you don't want to play, get the fuck out of my locker room."
The only other consideration would be if the team loves Weis so much that they want to boycott a bowl game to protest his firing. And, as much as I like to laugh at him, I must admit that I can't imagine Weis doing anything but asking them not to boycott on his accord.
I am sure they will be invited and end up playing.
November 30th, 2009 at 4:06 PM ^
Warriors? I thought they were mf'ing soldiers, or is that just Kellen Winslow?
November 30th, 2009 at 3:08 PM ^
Maybe the school will have to bring in a collection of replacement players, made up of its student body to play in the $$,$$$,$$$ game. Considering a lot of money is at stake, could the players be protesting for Charlie to keep his job? The school is really going to need that money and they've only retained him this long because of his phat contract.
November 30th, 2009 at 3:18 PM ^
Weis tanked the season in order to goto the Little Ceasar's Bowl, because he thought that the winner of the game got free pizza for life?
November 30th, 2009 at 3:22 PM ^
There is no way ND gets millions of dollars from playing in the Hawaii Bowl. In fact, I'm willing to bet that playing in a bowl game (especially one located in the 50th State) will end up costing ND money.
I would be in no way surprised if ND chooses not to play in a bowl game this year, even if the players vote to play. Remember, this is a school that was famously adverse to bowl games in general, and more recently, adverse to "lesser" bowl games. With the fact that a new coach will be coming in, the extra practices aren't even that much of a benefit, especially considering next year's starting QB will not be available.
November 30th, 2009 at 3:31 PM ^
Good point -- lesser bowl games tend to cost more money for travel (band, admin, etc.) than they offer. Of course, Pizza Pizza would be a quick bus ride!
I agree that no way would players ever vote not to play a game. Think of senior who has no NFL shot; it's their last chance to play big time football. Would any other player deny that?
Swarbick is just talking -- players can vote all they want, but it won't matter. My guess is that they go, even if it's a financial loss.
December 4th, 2009 at 9:05 PM ^
For really poor foresight and mis-spelling the ND AD's name, it's self negbang time.
November 30th, 2009 at 3:33 PM ^
Practices are always good. No matter what. More practice time=good.
And next years starting QB wont be available? Even if Jimmay goes to the NFL, I'm pretty sure Dayne Crist has the inside track to the starting job next year. So how would there starting QB not be available?
November 30th, 2009 at 3:45 PM ^
Crist was very well regarded. Although the scenario probably would not play out, the best thing for ND would be to take a bowl game against a patsy and get Crist some action.
November 30th, 2009 at 4:28 PM ^
Being sidelined with surgery means that Crist will not play...so I am not sure what either of you are trying to say.
November 30th, 2009 at 4:50 PM ^
You're right, practice time is good, but in the current circumstances it's not as important in it's own right as say, 3 more weeks when you're in the middle of a transition to a completely different offensive or defensive systems. ND will not be able to institute a new sytstem, even if the new coach has been hired. So your remaining benefit from practice is fundementals work. How interested in the details do you think a coaching staff with future employment concerns on the mind is going to be? Additionally, as was pointed out below, Crist tore his ACL and will not be able to practice until the spring at the earliest. So, in addition to the coaching limitations, the player at the one position most in need of repitition, won't be available. Practice still would be a benefit, but a very limited benefit.
Really though, the second paragraph wasn't my point in the post. My point was, ND will LOSE money by accepting a bowl bid. Everything should be seen in that context, not the idea that they are going to be raking in the dough plus getting the benefit of extra practice time.
November 30th, 2009 at 4:07 PM ^
ND's turned down a couple less presitigious bowls in recent history. One of the main reasons they accepted the Hawaii Bowl invitation last year was to recruit Manti Te'o with a game on the island and because ND desperately needed any sort of bowl win to clear the then-current streak.
November 30th, 2009 at 4:14 PM ^
The practice time was nice too
November 30th, 2009 at 5:10 PM ^
Yeah, didn't they turn down a bowl invite in Ty's last season (or the year previous)?
November 30th, 2009 at 5:27 PM ^
Yeah, I thought it was his last one, but I'm too lazy to look it up, as I don't care about ND enough to do it.