FranzWagner

May 9th, 2022 at 5:17 PM ^

Isn't this bad for us?

Everyone wants ohio state as our protected rival.

Everyone wants to play msu every year.

This allows msu to avoid playing ohio state as well and schedule indiana and northwestern instead.

Markley Mojo

May 9th, 2022 at 5:42 PM ^

If there's an expansion in playoff spots, then being in or out of the field will depend in part on strength of schedule.

And if the removal of a championship game allows for some creativity like adding a flex week or two (before the final rivalry week), then you can guarantee that the top teams would have to play someone decent that wasn't on their fixed schedule.

Nothing takes away from 42-27, but I sure would have preferred that being the last game of the regular season.

trueblueintexas

May 9th, 2022 at 6:05 PM ^

42-27 was the last game of the regular season. People don't talk about this enough. 

Michigan went on to play in the Conference Championship Game the week after which takes place after the regular season. 

But Michigan did beat Ohio State 42-27 in the last game of the regular season in-case anyone had forgotten. 

NittanyFan

May 9th, 2022 at 7:16 PM ^

You're right ... but this has never made sense to me.  The B1G (or SEC, etc) Championship game isn't a Bowl game.  It's not a CFP game.  So what else is it if not a regular-season game?  Don't we count conference tournament games within a team's regular season record in basketball?

That also puts college football in a place where we have (1) the regular season, (2) conference championship weekend, (3) then another regular season game (Army vs Navy), and then finally (4) Bowl/CFP season.

1VaBlue1

May 9th, 2022 at 8:51 PM ^

So where does M-OSU fit in this?  Was the game played?  Who won?  I keep hearing about 42-27 - was this part of one of the seasons you speak of.  Please explain this 42-27 season.  I'm in need of a recap...  I mean, was there hurdling involved?  Rushing touchdowns?  Big defensive stops?  How did this 42-27 thing play out?

NittanyFan

May 10th, 2022 at 10:15 AM ^

Game 163 for baseball is most definitely considered a regular season game.  Look up the Detroit Tigers 2009 record (or the Rockies in 2008/2018, etc).  The MLB final regular season standings show all those teams as having played 163 games, and their games behind the division winner has a "1/2" to it.

Robbie Moore

May 9th, 2022 at 5:42 PM ^

I am so losing patience and interest in all this. College football is run by idiots who can not figure out how to equitably divide up billions and maintain some semblance of competitive balance. I don't want to support this nonsense with my time and money. I can find other things to interest me . 

I recommend all these athletic administrators (and school presidents) be exiled to the most remote part of the Bolivian desert.

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trueblueintexas

May 9th, 2022 at 6:31 PM ^

I love nostalgia, but let's not pretend college football was in some sort of blissful perfection 20-30 years ago. 

  • SMU received the death penalty in 1987
  • The southwestern conference was dissolved due to rampant cheating in the 90's
  • There was a huge court case with schools involving TV rights which caused conferences to start  aligning to specific networks to gain TV coverage in the 90's 
  • Conference realignment was just starting with Miami & Virginia Tech leaving the Big East to join the ACC in 2003 which was a trigger for more expansion and transition of the major conferences
  • The wide ranging use of steroids in college football was gaining national attention including head coaches who had paid for and provided steroids to players. Brian Bosworth & Tony Mandarich each finished their college careers in the late 80's.
  • It became public knowledge (through the illiteracy of Dexter Manley) that many athletes were not attending classes and yet were staying eligible, so much so the NCAA had to institute new minimum eligibility requirements in 1986. 

I could keep going, but there was no golden age of college football. As long as it has existed people have been trying to cheat and game the system so their team could win. Corruption, financial manipulation, and television contracts are equally part of the history of college football as is the forward pass and triple option. 

 

1VaBlue1

May 9th, 2022 at 9:06 PM ^

The golden age of college football is whatever era you grew up in, whichever it was that developed your love for the game.  It was never pure, and it was never evil.  Same right now - not pure, not evil.  But every era is different, and those among us prefer different eras.

Some would say that SMU was the downfall that led to what we have today.  Because of what the death penalty did to SMU sports, the NCAA has been ever more reluctant to dole it out again.  And everyone knew it, so the whole 'deterrence' aspect was flushed down the toilet.

Gulogulo37

May 10th, 2022 at 10:19 AM ^

Reggie Bush, Cam Newton, etc.

Also I'll never stop saying this, but college football has gone full steam ahead towards maximizing revenue, often at the expense of tradition and the good of the sport itself, at every decision point. Paying players to me doesn't seem any more particularly disruptive than all the other shit that's gone on, and at least now they get a cut.

NittanyFan

May 9th, 2022 at 7:13 PM ^

One advantage of the divisions ..... it ensures that a league will never have more than 2 undefeated teams (in conference regular season games).

I THINK it's fairly easy to create a division-less schedule that ensures a league will never have more than 2 undefeated teams.  But I think that is an absolute pre-requisite before we go down this direction.  An undefeated team being shut out of the CCG is an absolute no-go IMO.

Another way to state the pre-requisite: for every single combination of 3 teams that you pick from the conference, you have to ensure at least 1 match-up within the triplet.