MSU's Denzel Valentine out 2-3 weeks with knee injury
Tom Izzo said MSU will be without Denzel Valentine for 2-3 weeks. Had surgery this morning on a piece of cartilage.
— Mike Wilson (@MikeWilson247) December 21, 2015December 21st, 2015 at 12:39 PM ^
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December 21st, 2015 at 12:55 PM ^
The thing that gets me is that as much as he brings up injuries, he's actually been extremely lucky in this regard when it comes to March. His injured guys are always back in the lineup for the tournament.
December 21st, 2015 at 1:02 PM ^
And in his one national championship, he was the beneficiary of another team suffering a devastating injury. Cincinnati had been the #1 team all season but then lost their best player (Kenyon Martin) a few days before the tournament.
December 21st, 2015 at 1:50 PM ^
...that he had a team of 23 year olds when other teams were allowing their players to go to the NBA (how did the NBA work out for their MVP, by the way?)
Are they going to make a :30 for :30 about 6(?) Final Fours with out a Championship, like Buffalo? MSU is the only team I know of that counts Final Fours as Championships. 1-7? That's impressive.
December 21st, 2015 at 3:04 PM ^
December 21st, 2015 at 3:36 PM ^
That's one season-ending injury to a key player in 20 years. Any others?
In just the past two seasons we've had three (McGary in 2014, LeVert and Walton in 2015).
December 21st, 2015 at 3:38 PM ^
December 21st, 2015 at 3:39 PM ^
December 21st, 2015 at 4:01 PM ^
If that's the only time he's had a starter out for the tournament in his two decades at MSU, then yes, he's been extremely lucky.
December 21st, 2015 at 1:15 PM ^
I don't even really know what you mean by "count." Of course they will count for their W-L and for the B1G title. Will they count for people subjectively judging how good this team will be in March when Valentine is healthy? No, and they shouldn't.
December 21st, 2015 at 1:20 PM ^
Huh, maybe it's a joke...
December 21st, 2015 at 3:42 PM ^
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December 25th, 2015 at 1:27 PM ^
yeah i feel same :p
December 21st, 2015 at 5:09 PM ^
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December 21st, 2015 at 1:54 PM ^
when Valentine is that ugly. Who the hell wants to guard that?
December 21st, 2015 at 12:41 PM ^
December 21st, 2015 at 12:42 PM ^
Should specify in the title whether it is days, months, weeks, YEARS.
December 21st, 2015 at 12:42 PM ^
I wish him a full recovery. I also hope MSU loses every game that he is gone.
December 21st, 2015 at 1:17 PM ^
I also hope staee loses every game that he is back.
December 21st, 2015 at 1:24 PM ^
Yep - full and speedy recovery, but let the losses begin now.
December 21st, 2015 at 2:24 PM ^
December 22nd, 2015 at 1:03 AM ^
makes me an expert on growing and smoking weed. Or when I tell people that I went to see UB40 and they were awesome. If I happen to be wearing my Sublime shirt when I tell them I like UB40 I am stoned and will forget our conversation.
December 21st, 2015 at 12:43 PM ^
With out Valentine, they become an average team. A couple of B1G losses to open the conference season are guaranteed.
December 21st, 2015 at 1:18 PM ^
Their early big ten slate is:
12/29 @Iowa
1/2 @Minnesota
1/7 Illinois
1/10 @ Penn State
Other than the opener at Iowa, that's 3 of the weaker teams in the Big Ten.
December 21st, 2015 at 12:44 PM ^
That's OK. Izzo will just install some weird guys.
Normally this is where I wish the injured player well and a speedy recovery. But given the rape allegations against Valentine ... not so much.
December 21st, 2015 at 12:47 PM ^
+1 for the weird guys comment...but not sure where these rape allegations are coming from? You may be thinking about Adriean Payne and Keith Appling...
December 21st, 2015 at 12:49 PM ^
Apologies to Valentine, and sincere wishes for a speedy recovery. Appling is who I had in mind.
December 21st, 2015 at 1:03 PM ^
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December 21st, 2015 at 1:37 PM ^
Payne befriended a sick child! GREAT STORY!!
December 21st, 2015 at 1:32 PM ^
You have it mixed up. Payne and Appling were the ones accused of rape. Valentine is the player Izzo got caught trying to funnel money to through an intermediary, which resulted in Izzo getting suspended by the NCAA. They only had enough evidence to suspend him for one game, unfortuantely. A lot of people forget about this and the conference did its best to sweep it under the rug:
http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2010/12/17/mich-st-coach-izzo-suspended-n…
December 21st, 2015 at 2:32 PM ^
That's a pretty far stretch...
December 21st, 2015 at 2:45 PM ^
December 21st, 2015 at 7:06 PM ^
December 22nd, 2015 at 1:16 AM ^
the sport radio and sports page in the Detroit area have a bunch of Staee grads employed by them. Otherwise they would have spent years in mediocrite like the UM BBall team had to. We all must remember the practicegate that happened during the RR years. Just so people can say, see UM does "IT" too
December 21st, 2015 at 12:46 PM ^
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December 21st, 2015 at 12:51 PM ^
Not sure why this gets negged.
December 21st, 2015 at 12:56 PM ^
December 21st, 2015 at 1:02 PM ^
Are you that ugly?
MSU fans have spent years making fun of Hoke because of his weight...
December 21st, 2015 at 1:46 PM ^
December 21st, 2015 at 2:45 PM ^
If it makes you feel better, you're probably on the right side of this conversation. It's just... I mean, I've come to terms that I'm kind of an ass.
December 21st, 2015 at 2:48 PM ^
December 21st, 2015 at 1:14 PM ^
I understand where you're coming from and would generally agree, but we're talking about one of the least attractive individuals you'll see on your television screen. It's like Tayshaun Price got together with a character from the Croods and had a baby, that was dropped...and then run over.
That said, I don't think it's right to compare him to a donkey (because that's not a nice way to treat a donkey).
December 21st, 2015 at 2:30 PM ^
I'm not a fan of teasing someone about something they have no control over, such as the face they were born with. And someone above mentioned Spartan fans teasing Hoke over his weight...why does that make something else okay? It's just as low class and juvenile.
People need to grow up and stop with the constant ridicule.
December 21st, 2015 at 2:39 PM ^
You need a little sense of humor Denzel.
December 21st, 2015 at 2:43 PM ^
I guess I'm low class and juvenile! And, given all the taunting Valentine has done over the years, I don't feel even the slightest bit bad about it.
December 21st, 2015 at 2:49 PM ^
Eh. That's a slippery slope argument.
Crazy people can't control it. Short people can't control it. Smelly people (sometimes) can't control it. Dutch people can't control it. Hairy people can't control it.
You're telling me I can't pick on anyone out there over something that is not their fault, and they can't control? Next you're going to want me to stop yelling "Santa Claus isn't real!" when I pass children waiting at the bus stop.