MSU's Crump gets Probation for Tunnel Attack

Submitted by XM - Mt 1822 on January 31st, 2023 at 1:50 PM

Mates,

Checked the board, didn't see this, relevant to our team.  Crump, the helmet-swinging Sparty, got probation today pursuant to what is called 'HYTA' (pronounced 'high-ta'), the Holmes Youthful Trainee Act.  In a HYTA disposition the accused pleads guilty the but the court holds the plea in abeyance and does not enter it.  The case becomes what is called a 'non-public' record, not subject to disclosure or to the normal look up search engines.  

If he completes his probation without incident, the case effectively goes away as if it didn't happen - gives him a clean slate.   

Link to the ESPN article here: https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/35563758/spartans-khary-crump-gets-probation-tunnel-assault

This has been your Sparty-felony update for the day.

XM 

oriental andrew

January 31st, 2023 at 5:38 PM ^

Correct. Standard employment background checks, of course, don't search for news articles - only official criminal records, education records, etc. 

That said, there is nothing stopping a prospective employer from googling his name. 

That also said, I don't wish for the kid's life to be ruined over this. Rather, I'm hoping he learns from this, matures to be a solid citizen, and does some good in this world to make up for past transgressions. 

XM - Mt 1822

January 31st, 2023 at 2:17 PM ^

me too.  is a principled outcome and appropriate for a first-time offender where no (? little?) injury was inflicted despite the accused's best efforts.   

if all of us got rung up for every ill-advised thing we had done at that age, a fair number here might be emailing their parole officers, not their office mates. 

Savoy88

January 31st, 2023 at 10:24 PM ^

Thank you for this comment.

RCMB this, RCMB that. I seem to remember multiple posters on that "site" advocating assault against U of M fans. Lol. "Little if any injury"? But let's let that asshole "serve his time" and not "ruin his life". I've seen some disgusting shit on this site but nothing even remotely close to this. I can understand and respect Gemon Green for being allowed to have his input, and have his wishes respected. It's just further proof of how high of character he tries (and often succeeds) to be.

I know it's like a $100/year customer of a $10,000,000 profit/year company talking about how they'll never give the company a single dime more of their money. But I'm done. I'm just fucking done.

I'mTheStig

January 31st, 2023 at 3:54 PM ^

I just hope (I honestly don't know) it isn't in reality more of a case of just can he keep clean long enough for it to disappear.

Even though he goes to a shit school, with a shit board, a shit coach emeritus, and with a shit fanbase, justice has been served.  No need to drag the kid anymore.  If he fucks up, that's really not for any of us to speculate.

wolpherine2000

January 31st, 2023 at 10:44 PM ^

No matter what we would like to see, the practicalities of living in a world full of attorneys and a pending civil case make anything like that pretty hard. I ain't no kinda law talking guy but it seems like that requires some signal from the plaintiff's side that a honest display of contrition by the defense won't be used against him when it goes to court.

griffinm9

January 31st, 2023 at 1:55 PM ^

That works. I'm happy there was a repercussion for that and I also didn't want it following him around for the rest of his life, legally at least.

crg

January 31st, 2023 at 3:38 PM ^

My point is that, in this case, defendents *actions* are not a "what if".  He swung a hard, blunt object against someone's unprotected head numerous times.  The victim ended up with a mild concussion, a broken nose and some mild facial damage.  He could have easily ended up in a coma, suffered serious internal damage, or worse with all of the actions taken by the defendent being exactly the same.  So, should the charge truly be any different in those scenarios?

mgoblue_in_bay

January 31st, 2023 at 7:24 PM ^

Interesting, I read your previous post the other way.  But yes, in the legal system actual damages do matter some, and potential damages do matter some.

The penalty for stealing money depends on the amount stolen far more than the "potential amount stolen", and the charges for shooting someone "near the heart but not killing them" also differs from "killing them", regardless of intent.

I think it's true even if there's no intent, the potential charges differ based on the outcome - "I accidentally ran a red light, and got a ticket but no one got hurt" versus "I accidentally ran a red light and someone was killed"

I'mTheStig

January 31st, 2023 at 4:07 PM ^

Why does the tool matter in that scenario <-- and that's kind of a rhetorical question because all this whatif-ism is pointless and getting downright embarrassing for you all.

Does the difference between a pipe and a helmet matter because someone may presume a pipe is more deadlier.  Prove it.  Otherwise, it's still the same act.  What if I used a folding chair?  What if I used a cleat?  What if I used a broom in the tunnel hallway... all pointless discussions.

Death can result in either case 

If the damage is increased as the result of the act I imagine the charges would increase as well.

Imjesayin

January 31st, 2023 at 7:27 PM ^

Sure it does. If you get pulled over for something that isn't related to DUI driving, but you have a blood alcohol level over .08%, you'll get arrested and prosecuted for DUI. But the person hasn't directly harmed anyone by being DUI. The traffic stop wasn't related to anything involving impairment/bad driving. There was no actual harm or injury done. But DUI is a crime because of the danger it POSES, even if no harm was actually caused. That's absolutely a crime based upon "what if" or "what could have been." 

TruBluMich

February 2nd, 2023 at 10:08 AM ^

There is no "what if" the person was driving under the influence when they got pulled over for something else and are caught. The prosecutor can not charge them with more because "what if" they had killed someone. DUI is an actual crime, and the punishment is a deterrent to prevent it in the future.  Someone who has 3 DUIs receives a much harsher punishment than a first offender.