More Info on Tressel's Actions in TatGate
Appears there are more details about calls and contacts made by Tressel following his original notification of player involvement in selling their memorbilia. What continues to be of note is there is no record of him contacting the compliance staff at OSU at any time.
We'll see how the NCAA looks at this further example of covering up the matter. I do not see how they cannot throw the book at him for "not fostering an atmosphere of compliance".
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maybe Jom Tre$$el thought the FBI would contact the NCAA? If I was O$U I would FIRE RICH ROD.
The camo he was wearing this week made it seem that hes trying to hide from the ncaa. Am I right?
My fist at you
Maybe the NCAA won't see me
Clearly Tressie is using that as a way to signal he is going to war with the NCAA.
Just like Jimmy Johnson and that Miami team that crapped the bed against PSU, I don't think this will work out for him.
April 25th, 2011 at 10:20 AM ^
Tressel and OSU wearing camo is a disgrace to the military. Soldiers don't need your crooked, low-life ass soiling the good uniform they wear.
April 25th, 2011 at 10:38 AM ^
Tressel calls his boy at the FBI in Columbus only FOUR days after getting the original email from Cicero, in which Tressel was informed of the federal investigation.
What did Tressel and his FBI agent friend talk about? Oh, they weren't talking about the federal investigation. Somebody Tressel knew was interested in a job with the FBI. That's why Tressel called.
YES, THAT SOUNDS PLAUSIBLE.
What was Tressel's request to his FBI agent homey? And did the FBI agent do a special favor for Tressel?
Assuming that this FBI agent is lying... (yes, say that out loud for a moment, "FBI agent . . . lying"), then this scandal is getting shadier and shadier by the day.
I think Tressel called the FBI to let them know that he was going to crack the case. He also let them know that he going to have to go in deep and needed them to back off his nutz for the time being.
but it doesn't look like the athletic department as a whole had much to do with this incident.
"I just hope he doesn't fire me"
I find it inconceivable that after getting the first email Tressel wasn't talking to his compliance staff and/or AD and/or Gee. If he did, it is another layer of a coverup. If he didn't, he is too dumb to be in the position he currrently holds.
That "inadvertently omitted" line is a real piece of work.
April 25th, 2011 at 10:02 AM ^
This is the piece of the story that continues to boggle my mind. I could understand an attempt to bypass the Compliance office if it was something you heard whispered in your ear, something you think you could take care of through outside channels with no one being the wiser. I'm not saying that's the ETHICAL move, but I understand why one might go that route. But once that email hits your inbox, it's time to go legit. You have an office whose job is to take on headaches like this so your butt is covered even if your program isn't.
I assume the answer is stupidity, but I'm beginning to wonder if there is something even bigger going to come to light that would explain the ridiculous choices Tressel has made. Im not creative enough to come up with possibilities, however.
April 25th, 2011 at 11:14 AM ^
Once, I read this word I had to read the rest of your post in a Vicini voice.
That aside, I agree, but I think in the end this all looks like they're going to have him "fall on his sword" and go down for this one, with little backlash coming down on the program itself
Inconceivable you say? Ask and you shall receive.
This is going to be the ticket to NCAA hammertown. All over Twitter right now, CFB columnists are all agreeing that this is the last straw.
Happy day.
April 25th, 2011 at 11:12 AM ^
As much as I am loving this story, the opinion of CFB columnists amounts to about nothing. I think that ship has sailed. We are all hoping for justice, but just about nothing will surprise me in regards to the actual results.
I just want to enjoy the moment.
Man, I am loving this. I can't wait to see what the NCAA decides to do about that school in Ohio.
More from the Dispatch, on the NCAA's notice to that school down south:
I think it is funny that the NCAA didn't hit them with a 'Failure to monitor'...becuase the stuff was clearly monitored...it was just ignored.
This seems so clear cut it's ridiculous:
1) If you don't have a potential impact on the players' eligibility, you got contacted.
2) If you do have a potential impact on the players' eligibility, you got avoided.
April 25th, 2011 at 10:27 AM ^
NCAA and clear cut in the same sentence??? Not so much!
Seriously. Everytime I see a thread with title like this I get giddy while openning it just waiting for what little gems it holds.
April 25th, 2011 at 10:40 AM ^
Even being OSU I am not thrilled with any similarity to the SEC.
April 25th, 2011 at 10:00 AM ^
Tressell is a saint. Leave the guy alone.
Oh, and OSU thought of barring him from the spring game, but then decided not to. Its the thought that counts, right?
April 25th, 2011 at 10:00 AM ^
I still won't believe that the NCAA will come down hard on them until I see it.
April 25th, 2011 at 10:42 AM ^
frankly i thought some of the allegations are a little light - the suspended players won't face any further discipline and there's no lack of institutional control charge.
April 25th, 2011 at 11:27 AM ^
Why do the players deserve anything more? They got the standard punishment for selling memorabilia, plus one game for being allowed to play in the Sugar Bowl. They've served their time.
Tressel, OTOH, needs to get a show-cause for this. There's no reason the NCAA should rule that employing a (now) notorious cheater and serial liar is okay.
April 25th, 2011 at 12:43 PM ^
Sadly, I agree with you there. The tattoo thing, while tacky, just isn't such a big deal; it wasn't a competitive advantage. The players got a pretty stiff punishment. Move on.
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<br>The major infraction was solely Tressel's. He deserves the show-cause. But assuming the infraction was purely his, the entire program doesn't necessarily deserve major penalties. Some penalties, sure. Probation, certainly.
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<br>Unless there's more to the story, in the Watergate sense. In which case, it will be hammertime.
April 25th, 2011 at 12:50 PM ^
Agreed on all counts. The players were dumb, but they weren't point shaving or taking steroids. I don't think OSU deserves much more than probation (I wouldn't cry foul for a one year bowl ban since they got to one last year by the coach's cheating) but Tressel needs to go. If this were M, he would be gone; end of story. OSU should at least pretend they have the class to realize this.
While I agree that selling jerseys isn't a giant violation, Tressel's actions must result in team-wide sanctions. I'd point to the "I just hope coach doesn't fire me" comment to show how there was no institutional control at OSU. Of course, the NCAA isn't alleging that...and that's a shame. The school needs to have an incentive to control a coach like Tressel. If they can just wash their hands of him, then it only eliminates this dirty coach. It does nothing to stop the next dirty coach.
It's hard to impose big sanctions on the institution when Tressel covered things up so thoroughly from anyone who would have any authority in a manner like this. You can't do that on a quote from a smart-ass university president.
I agree to an extent, but in this particular case I agree with the NCAA that there's almost no evidence that suggests OSU should have known about Tressel. If a coach knows that they need to forward potential violations to compliance or be fired, they will.
April 25th, 2011 at 10:02 AM ^
Geesh, this is why I hate the NCAA. The evidence just piles up and I pretty much know nothing will happen.
April 25th, 2011 at 10:04 AM ^
seems to be a two man race between Auburn and Ohio to which team can get the worst penalties. The NCAA really shows what they stand for depending on what happens with these two schools athletic (football) programs.
Get your popcorn boys and girls this may turn out to be one gigantic dumpster fire.
April 25th, 2011 at 10:07 AM ^
My money is on OSU. Seeing as how they didn't actually win a NC. The NCAA has a lot more to lose if Auburn goes up in flames. I could see them hammering OSU just to pretend like they aren't the weakest organization on the planet. They really don't have much to lose if OSU gets rocked.
April 25th, 2011 at 12:04 PM ^
Just because Auburn won the last BCS Championsihp?
April 25th, 2011 at 11:09 PM ^
2002 was a million years ago.
April 25th, 2011 at 10:05 AM ^
"These emails were inadvertently omitted in the copying process for inclusion in the information that was provided on March 8."Um, am I the only one that finds that funny?
April 25th, 2011 at 10:11 AM ^
This looks like he's managed to isolate this incident so it falls just on him. He's done such a thorough job of it that I can't see how he keeps his job, though.
April 25th, 2011 at 10:13 AM ^
...I'm going to need a refill on my popcorn
April 25th, 2011 at 10:37 AM ^
extra butter please
In my eyes he is guilty until proven innocent.
Where the hell are all the TSIO trolls these days? I kind of miss TrustsTressel in moments like this...
I guess 9 - 1 might be a bit less if eligible players are included.
Also, did anyone else notice in reading the allegations that the NCAA asked for scholarship numbers for the past four years and details of TSIO's television contracts. Delaney must be freaking out.
I will enjoy the next 3 months of Columbus burning and their fans going on and on about how Tressel "did so much" for "these kids".
I still believe he had to say something to smith or the compliance department. it simply makes zero sense for him to contact every single person except your boss. this is definitely a school cover up as I see it. in other news frank epitropoulis just committed to osu today. one of the top wr in Ohio.
I still believe he had to say something to smith or the compliance department. it simply makes zero sense for him to contact every single person except your boss. this is definitely a school cover up as I see it. in other news frank epitropoulis just committed to osu today. one of the top wr in Ohio.
April 26th, 2011 at 12:46 AM ^
The FBI agent was an Ex-players Dad and the call was about a job for a friend and had nothing to do with the players. Least thats what the agent said when he was interviewed , could be saying that to try and further torpedo Jim's "confidentuality" defense , but i figured he Took care of that defense when he called TP's Agent... er mentor.