More COVID-19 dominos fall -- Vail Resorts close all North American hills 15 - 22 March
https://www.summitdaily.com/news/vail-resorts-suspending-operations-sunday-through-march-22/
Hopefully the title says it all.
@MGrowOld, you may get that Epic refund after all.
At a restaurant tonight and it’s packed. Talked with the owners and they’ve had very good nights the past few.
Out of curiosity, approximately where (state, city) are you located?
SW Mich
It's going to hit rural areas so fucking hard. People are socially distancing already in higher population density areas, and that's too little too late. The next 12 weeks are going to be a goddamn disaster.
March 15th, 2020 at 12:03 PM ^
just the opposite. people in rural areas don't have close-by neighbors. there are less than 100 people per square mile (a mile holds 640 acres) where we live. proximity is much less of a problem.
March 15th, 2020 at 12:19 PM ^
That would have been my guess to. Also, I suspect you are much more competent at dealing with disruptions to grocery stores etc.
March 15th, 2020 at 12:56 PM ^
candidly, a grocery store is a pleasant convenience for us but not a necessity. we've got food for many months and we own the means of production. i even built a bio-diesel reactor in the barn years ago so if fuel is disrupted we can go back into production on that.
Jeez. Do they think this is some kind of joke?
No, just an observation
March 15th, 2020 at 12:05 AM ^
I just left Santa Barbara, Ca and I am now in Grand Junction, CO on my way back to Ann Arbor by car. Hotels and restaurants in Santa Barbara are 2/3 empty or worse. I was talking to a waitress tonight at a local Applebees and she said 2/3 of their wait staff are no longer needed.
Anecdotal data does not a case make for any of us, but the actions of financial markets and federal legislation recently passed on a bipartisan basis should tell you something.
Watch Joe Rogan's podcast from this week (Thursday, I think). He mentions that he went out to several clubs in the LA area and they were all packed. That was after he'd had Michael Osterholm on his show, who told him that without social distancing, things would get much, much worse.
Bottom line: many, many people just don't give a shit.
Fox has been downplaying the threat, so if that's the only news you get the virus is a hoax to crash the market and isn't any worse than the flu.
If we were testing as many people as Korea is, all nonessential businesses would be closed and people wouldn't be leaving their homes.
Shit is going to get real, and fast.
I have no doubt that someone is gonna come on here and say “NO POLITICS”, but it is definitely saying something when Fox News and The Federalist are the only major-distribution media sources that are downplaying this.
when this is all over, I hope people class-action them out of existence.
More likely...when this scare and mass hysteria is over, liberals will be proven wrong and laughed at by most of America, once again.
Liberals are the biggest threat to America. Liberals have been asking for an economic collapse for the last couple years. Fuck them
Agreed. This shit is ridiculous. The breakout is nothing to scoff at, but if people do the research and look at the history of similar outbreaks, they'd see where this really ranks on the scales... of mortality rate, infection rate, recovery rate, you name it.
Do your part, be conscious of what you're doing with your hygiene, make smart decisions, but Jesus, the world is not coming to an end, and no, this administration is not to blame.
I hope you're right and I'm wrong.
But this thing kills 10-15% of the over 70 crowd and seems to spread pretty damn easily and quickly. That's why the kids are calling it the boomer remover.
Boomer. Remover. Run boomers run!
when was the last time you saw the types of things that are happening in Italy?
Why not write a diary and educate us
Right. Because after Obama built the economy back up after the 2008 collapse, we libtards just want to tear it all down, at our own peril, too, I might add. Whatever happens affects us as much as you.
You fucking idiots and people like you are going to get a lot of people killed. The really sick thing is that even when that happens, you likely still won't acknowledge reality because your "news" source will be spinning another conspiracy theory. You're all insane. And dumb as shit.
Oh crap your on to everyone now and found out it’s just a hoax. You have to give the world credit though for staging this and keeping it just from Republicans Well now that you know someone put the word out to the entire world that we can all stop acting like there’s a deadly virus and go back to normal Noting gets by you bluewings
Proven wrong in regards to what, exactly?
March 15th, 2020 at 12:00 AM ^
Take this trash to r/politics where it belongs
Yes yes, because what liberals really just want is to be proven right, even if people die.
I'm truly sorry that you think that hundreds of millions of people want the other hundreds of millions of people want them to die. Ironic considering that my parents are both deeply conservative. I would like them very much to not die.
I also would like you to not die. If it means you laugh at me while I continue to chide you and others to do the right thing, then so be it.
You may have just pointed out the problem with our media. Just saying.
March 15th, 2020 at 12:24 AM ^
This is such the wrong take. Can we just find some time to be on the same team.
I’m getting the opposite. Seems everything is closed. Guy I know lost his job at a restaurant. It’s crazy out there
Those people packing bars and restaurants in New York and Chicago: just a bunch of Fox News watchers?
Edit: Here's Washington DC.
Yeah, I agree with this. People of all political bents are basically selfish, especially for something as abstract as this. They might happily volunteer their time at a soup kitchen but they can't see any immediate payoff for sacrificing their life for an indeterminate amount of time and have no real reason to believe they will ever see the payoff. I mean, the payoff is nothing bad happens. This is why, I don't know, almost every country in the world is closing shit down. And the ones that can are closing private businesses. You can't trust the citizens.
You can't properly virtue signal staying at home for 3 weeks like you can a selfie at a soup kitchen (and I mean this for millennial on social media or boomers at the tennis club)
March 15th, 2020 at 12:38 AM ^
I’ll throw my lot with citizens before I’ll trust government.
Yeah, there are quite a few people in New York who are posting videos on Instagram that show crowded fine dining restaurants and dance clubs.
Yeah all the young people in Miami on spring break right now are only there cus all the foxnews they watch has misinformed them.
Young people have no sense of their own mortality. That's why we send them to fight our wars.
If I was 20 I'd be at a bar using coronavirus pickup lines right now too.
Older people should know better.
His obvious point is that you politicized this by invoking Fox News, hoping get in a dur hur aren't the people in the party I'm not in all dummies. He's saying no the people in the party you are in are also dummies.
Fox News and the people who watch it aren't all dumb, and they certainly haven't cornered the market on stupidity. Business remains very good in that industry, on all channels and street corners.
March 14th, 2020 at 10:24 PM ^
I didn't mention politics at all, only a news network. Are you implying that Fox is little more than a right wing propaganda channel, only reporting talking points approved by the RNC?
Shame on you. They're fair and balanced.
March 14th, 2020 at 11:09 PM ^
You've hated Fox News for years and it's gotten you nowhere, your guffaws in the echo chamber have felt empty for a long while now. You're just not ready to admit it.
Push through buddy. Beyond the hate there's logic on the other side. Or just go ahead and keep staring at that old moran meme and pretending to smile.
March 15th, 2020 at 10:32 AM ^
Doesn’t mean Fox News is doing what’s right today though. Telling ppl this is a hoax is just flat out irresponsible! We all have to realize our part in this, regardless of where we stand on the political aisle. Americans at time struggle with thinking about the greater good of others when it comes at the expense of their own desires. We all would love to go to a game, eat at our favorite crowded restaurant and go to a theme park. However, right now is not that time! The quicker we all just sit back and sacrifice some of our personal wants. The faster things will get back to normal in my opinion.
March 15th, 2020 at 10:47 AM ^
The anti-science agenda that Republicans have been pitching for 30 years now has gotten ridiculous. It's the new Southern Strategy.
March 15th, 2020 at 12:27 PM ^
I watched Mississippi Burning yesterday (been a long time). The parallels are striking.
March 15th, 2020 at 12:15 AM ^
Let’s be real. Fox represents 40 percent of what people believe and CNN and most other media outlets represents 40 and the other 20 doesn’t give a shit. There is a reason Fox’s ratings are what they are. That’s where we are.
March 15th, 2020 at 10:16 AM ^
Fox soon to be 36%...
If Fox is a "right-wing" channel (and I would dispute that in some ways), then CNN, MSNBC, and the like are "left-wing" channels.
March 15th, 2020 at 12:29 AM ^
You know Hatter. There would be many pretty young gals impressed by an older gentlemen with Coronavirus pick up lines. Plus they are nervous and looking for assurances. I mean you could have an 3-6 month hot streak.
Go out with a bang.
My 19 year old son told me it was fake news and wouldn't affect him. He's now coming home from college to spend at least a month with us. I will force him to scrub down, Silkwood-style, every time he comes back into our house. Fake news, my ass.
I just don’t know what can rightly be expected of people. To seriously not leave their house? I have developing children, how long am I supposed to basically give them a coloring book and tell them to figure it out? Kids could really regress from what parents are being asked to do. And if this is “going to get worse before it gets better,” still, are we talking about cancelling the rest of the school year? Will kids get credit for the year?
Obviously I had some unpopular takes last week, and whatever, I took my beatings from the masses. But in a real practical sense, if we shut life down for too long I am not sure how you can expect it is just going to “reopen” without real lasting repercussions. I am all for a proportionate response, but what some people want other people to do seems rather disproportionate. The local public libraries are closed? Really? There is like 20 people there tops at a “busy” time. People need something to do. Kids are going to rot away.
I’ve still never heard an answer from you on this question. Do you not believe that the hospitals in Italy are overwhelmed? if you do, do you believe that can’t happen hear? Have you heard many actual medical experts who think that if we don’t take pretty drastic action it is likely to happen here?
If hospitals did get overwhemed, do you think we would somehow be immune from higher death rates from Covid-19 as well as other types of medical emergencies.
If you don’t believe all of that, it is easy to understand why you think this is an over reaction. I would be very interested in knowing what is leading you to this belief, because of been searching for it.
If you do believe it, I can also understand that there are legitimate questions at each stage of this pandemic about how far we should go to limit people’s movement. I personally think we could have taken a number of common sense solutions 6 weeks ago that would have put us in better shape and may have avoided some of the steps we are now taking. I fear however that given where we are, the steps we are now taking may not be enough and the steps may soon get more restrictive.
My kids are older than yours and I’ve been trying to figure out what to let them do and not do also. Hearing numbers like over 50% of the population of the US could get this And having several congenital health issues that put me at high risk, I can assure you that I very much want this to be overblown.