Mike Hart new RB Coach?

Submitted by elhead on January 13th, 2021 at 5:12 PM

According to Jamie Morris on WTKA!

Schemboeller C…

January 13th, 2021 at 5:39 PM ^

Just as good? So like, below average? Our running backs and tight ends have been nothing to brag about the last few years. There was absolutely no reason he should've been coaching the running backs besides the fact he is Harbaugh's son. Our running game has desperately needed a legitimate running backs coach.

Blueisgood

January 13th, 2021 at 5:49 PM ^

I don't know what crack pipe your puffin on, but Jay has done a pretty good job for himself. Running backs have been pretty good, he doesn't run the offense. His recruiting is above average as well. Everyone is always clamoring that guys can't recruit and Jay has been one of the better ones. Jay Harbaugh is not a problem and belongs on this staff. 

bronxblue

January 13th, 2021 at 6:15 PM ^

There's also this weird undercurrent of "we need to have someone who played the position to coach it", which is just silly on its face.

I think Hart joining should be viewed as an upgrade on the recruiting path for guys like Zordich and Shoop and, at best, a lateral move at the RB position.

Twitch

January 13th, 2021 at 7:09 PM ^

This right here cracks me up.  It's downright ignorant.  Quick facts: Urban Meyer coached wide receivers before being named head coach at BG; position played: defensive back

Ed Warinner is arguably a top 3 OL coach in the country; position played: running back and quarterback

Brady Hoke is one hell of a defensive line coach; position played: linebacker

Mike Leach is one of the most ingenious offensive coaches ever; position played: spectator.

Paul Johnson was one of the best triple option coaches in the land; position played: spectator...  

bronxblue

January 13th, 2021 at 5:58 PM ^

In the four years that Hart has been a RB coach at IU they've averaged, as a team, 3.48, 4.41, 3.63, and 3.13 ypc.  Over the same 4 year span (Jaybaugh's time as RB coach), UM has averaged 4.37, 4.83, 3.96, and 4.59.  And Jaybaugh has been one of the better recruiters on the staff.

Mike Hart the player was great at Michigan and that isn't up for discussion, but if he didn't have that name recognition I don't believe anyone would be particularly excited about him as a RB coach.  That may change when he arrives and is in the system at UM, but right now this feels a bit underwhelming of a hire.

BlueMetal

January 13th, 2021 at 6:06 PM ^

I think this is a decent hire. I know you're not saying different, but there are a lot of things that can affect team rushing statistics outside of how good the RB coach is. I don't watch indiana enough, nor understand the RB position enough to be able to realistically assess his performance but he seems to be a good recruiter at the least and will maybe bring some fresh personality/thinking on board. 

I will say that the two hires we've made so far indicate to me that coaches aren't beating down our door right now. 

bronxblue

January 13th, 2021 at 6:11 PM ^

Yeah, I think he's decent.  I also think that Hart coming to UM was ordained in the stars for what felt like years; my guess is he'd have been brought on even if UM had gone 6-2 or something.  I just am not sold he's a major upgrade as a coach.  I guess I just don't get the Jaybaugh hate generally, which seems to be coming from the subset of this fanbase that assumes everyone is a failson and couldn't possibly be good at his job while also sharing the same last name as the HC.

bronxblue

January 13th, 2021 at 11:01 PM ^

Well, Tevin Coleman and Jordan Howard weren't coached by Mike Hart, so not quite sure how compelling an argument that is when compared to Jaybaugh's output.  Heck, at least Jaybaugh seemingly made someone better; Higdon went from a backup to first-time all conference as a senior. 

As for IU's starting line, they didn't suffer losses of both their starting tackles and their center for most of the season, yet somehow Michigan still averaged about 1.5 ypc more than IU did.  And that number would have been even greater if we ignored Penix's ability to keep defenses honest as a capable runner.  

I think Hart will be a competent coach at UM, but like I said if his name wasn't "Mike Hart" I doubt people would be over-the-moon about demoting a guy who has been a good coach at a position group that has been consistent for a guy who helped lead the nation's 114th-ranked rushing offense.

bronxblue

January 13th, 2021 at 11:20 PM ^

I have no idea how those rankings are compiled, as Jaybaugh's 79th ranking this year comes off him being the primary guy for Edwards and Dunlap and secondary on Worthy.  I guess he was the primary guy on UM's punter, but even then his star rating is one of the better on the team.  Hart did fine but it's hard to judge guys considering what they are recruiting with.  I mean, Don Brown was apparently the 6th-best recruiter in the conference this year per 247.

I think Hart will be a fine recruiter but, again, if you told me the 3rd-best recruiter at IU was coming to UM and his name was Marcus Hart, I'm not sure I'd be excited about him displacing a good coach already on staff at a position that has been pretty solid.

Scottwood88

January 14th, 2021 at 1:31 AM ^

I think Jay probably wanted to move to ST full time like his uncle did and thinks that is a better career path for him to move up in the coaching world. At least, that is my hunch. From Michigan's perspective, it could also allow Jay to take on a more general recruiting approach like Moore does and not have him focus so much on just RB's.

I also think Hart will likely be a good recruiter here and this is a way to bring in another good recruiter on a staff that needs it. 

Lakeyale13

January 13th, 2021 at 8:54 PM ^

Love this.  We need a coach that can find and develop a 3 down back.  A RB by committee doesn’t seem to work.  Teams figure out that each back seems to have their own package of runs.  Makes our running plays more predictable than other teams. Kind of like when McDoom would get on the field. It let the defense know a jet sweep is probably coming.