Middle Tennessee Snowflakes: The Offense
August 31st, 2019 at 11:07 PM ^
corundum's critiques:
He might run great routes but Ronnie Bell has two left feet for hands. Play a WR who can catch.
August 31st, 2019 at 11:20 PM ^
He has had exactly 1 bad game. Dont criticize the kid too much, he has been a fantastic player. A lot of those balls were contested.
August 31st, 2019 at 11:32 PM ^
Especially the TD that hit him right in his hands with the defender beat.
August 31st, 2019 at 11:07 PM ^
Fuck I miss the 90’s
August 31st, 2019 at 11:34 PM ^
Ive posted this same thing every year for the last 18.
i guess I’m the only one who saw Michigan start putting in bench players in the second quarter like that was the start of garbage time.
August 31st, 2019 at 11:08 PM ^
Better to be 1-0 than 0-1 like last year
August 31st, 2019 at 11:08 PM ^
Where are my Positive Pete’s to spin this one? Lol
Same crew that thought Michigan’s offense was good in the osu game last year.
August 31st, 2019 at 11:18 PM ^
Where are my Positive Pete’s to spin this one?
We won the game.
August 31st, 2019 at 11:28 PM ^
*We won an ugly game.
Wisconsin game won’t go over well.
August 31st, 2019 at 11:40 PM ^
Lmao, yeah. I remember a lot of those same comments in 2017.
September 1st, 2019 at 1:24 AM ^
Do you remember them last year too? Wisconsin is one dimensional on offense and don't have the athletes to stop Michigan's offensive players.
September 1st, 2019 at 4:28 PM ^
Unless UM DL improves a lot, Wisky will run well on UM D.
August 31st, 2019 at 11:55 PM ^
Ehhh I will take any win over Wisconsin . Michigan hasn’t won a road game against a team with a pulse (so not MSU last year) in so many damn years
September 1st, 2019 at 12:55 AM ^
Hey man apparently 2018 Northwestern counts as a “big” road win.
(In reality it’s 2006 Notre Dame, so you’d be correct)
September 1st, 2019 at 12:21 AM ^
I was thinking of going to the WI game but only if we win. I've heard they are no lambeau field (not very friendly)
September 1st, 2019 at 1:46 AM ^
We might do just that but if it’s based on the performance tonight I don’t know where you get that confidence from...
September 1st, 2019 at 3:33 AM ^
Like last year?
August 31st, 2019 at 11:09 PM ^
I have so many things to say I don't know where to begin. I'm confused and I haven't even been drinking. Have fun with the UFR and write up Brian!
August 31st, 2019 at 11:09 PM ^
I never understood and continue to not understand the Shea Patterson hype on here. He's never done anything to particularly impress me. He's not that accurate and doesn't have that strong of an arm. He's kinda fast...that's about it.
We still don't use receivers enough, and are still ultra conservative especially in the red zone. We just line up different now. Nothing changes.
We used to complain about being conservative under Lloyd...at least he threw the ball when we had NFL receivers. Edwards had what? 80 catches alone in 04? Avant and Breaston probably added 30 or 40 a piece.
August 31st, 2019 at 11:12 PM ^
Agree 100%. Patterson will never take this team anywhere. D Caf is the real deal.
August 31st, 2019 at 11:13 PM ^
This.. 3 years of the same qb, it’s kinda who he is.
August 31st, 2019 at 11:38 PM ^
3 years, 14 games, same diff.
September 1st, 2019 at 3:37 AM ^
Ummm...how long has Patterson been at Michigan?
September 1st, 2019 at 8:52 AM ^
impossible to know
August 31st, 2019 at 11:23 PM ^
Patterson is better than you make him out to be, but I agree he is overhyped on this board. His biggest issue, by far, is that he takes too long to process. I get MTSU was blitzing a lot, but it was also a lot of max type protection. I just don't sense he gets to his other reads quick enough. It will be a looming issue as conference season begins.
The other offensive issue, somewhat related, is that Michigan didn't exactly carve up man coverage. I get some weapons were out but that is disheartening.
September 1st, 2019 at 12:25 AM ^
Yes, more than a few times he missed/ignored outlet receivers who were wide open for 1st downs and went deep into double coverage for INCs.
September 1st, 2019 at 6:16 AM ^
His long throws are mostly subpar. He underthrows most long passes. It's ok vs. teams like MTSU and Rutgers but won't fly against more competitive teams. Dylan has a much higher ceiling.
August 31st, 2019 at 11:29 PM ^
A 173 yards passing with 3 TDs and no interceptions in the first half, and showing some wheels, might have something to do with it. Granted the second half was ass, but if you can't see the potential, you have your eyes closed.
August 31st, 2019 at 11:37 PM ^
Potential for what though? Posting stats against over matched teams, sure. Potential to beat good teams, well he hasn't shown that yet. And he absolutely doesnt show NFL potential as he has a weak and inaccurate arm. And those late sideline throws he keeps making are going to be a problem.
September 1st, 2019 at 12:06 AM ^
And those late sideline throws he keeps making are going to be a problem.
When Patterson does that, in my mind's eye I see a pick 6 if this were Bama or Clemson.
September 1st, 2019 at 12:10 AM ^
Shea beat two “good teams” last year when he beat Wisconsin and Penn St easily . Granted, I’d like to see him win a big game on the road not counting an average MSU team last year , and so September 21 at Wisconsin is going to tell a lot for me . Also , maybe our perception of Shea is skewed as Michigan fans as we’ve seen a lot of poor and inconsistent play from the QB position the last decade or so , and so Shea looks good compared to what we’ve seen previously
September 1st, 2019 at 12:04 AM ^
The only pass he with any zip on it all game was in the 3rd quarter when Shea threw into triple coverage when MTSU had rushed 6. LOL.
September 1st, 2019 at 2:22 AM ^
You crazy? Didn't ya know? According to most of the jackfuks on this board Shea was gonna be a late 1st round early 2nd round pick in last years draft. We are so lucky he didn't declare. Undersized college QB's who cannot complete a 25+ yard vertical pass accurately and on time are the shit every NFL GM salivates over.
September 1st, 2019 at 10:13 AM ^
Interesting fact: WRs and TEs have to catch passes.
September 1st, 2019 at 8:16 AM ^
I’m glad some people finally have the balls to say what I’ve been saying since he was mentioned as transferring here.: He’s overhyped and really not that good... His awareness is bad, holds the ball to long, can’t find open receivers, doesn’t have the arm strength... But yay 5* recruit
September 1st, 2019 at 9:23 AM ^
It's an objective, statistical fact that he's accurate, my God the number of people who say that and are totally wrong is amazing.
As for the rest of your post we threw a lot in the first half, 200 yards for Shea, that's more than Carr would, then in the third Q we crapped the bed on execution.
August 31st, 2019 at 11:09 PM ^
If you have 2 QBs, you have no QBs.
Shea needs to sack the fuck up and play like a senior. It’s incomprehensible to me that he struggled that badly against MTSU.
The offense will be fine! Gattis will have it humming by Wisconsin.
Mckeon is so average it hurts my soul. Where the hell is that 5 star TE we were promised when Harbaugh was hired?
Once DPJ is back, watch out.
AND KEEP FEEDING CHARBONNET FFS JAY.
August 31st, 2019 at 11:17 PM ^
Confused by your take here. If we have no QBs like you say, then how will the offense by fine and humming by Wisco?
I'm all for optimism and being level headed after a season opener but that was pretty rough. Skill players looked slow and lots of basic errors (overthrows, dropped passes, fumbles). Gattis looked like a deer in the headlights too. Hardly looked like a Saban staffer who ran that offense last year. Concerned we may have hired the wrong guy from that duo. Will be interesting to see how Maryland's O fares.
August 31st, 2019 at 11:21 PM ^
If you don’t see the difference that Gattis makes on this offense idk what to tell you.
The playcalls made sense (exception double QB looks) for the most part (huge difference from last year)
QB play was the main issue tonight. Shea needs to get his shit together or Dylan needs to throw more.
August 31st, 2019 at 11:41 PM ^
Disagree. The playcalls made some sense last year too. Gattis certainly put in some better pass plays that created more separation but he still had many of the slow developing passes and screen passes that don't work well for us.
August 31st, 2019 at 11:56 PM ^
On the bright side, UM didn’t run a nine yard route when they needed 10.
September 1st, 2019 at 12:38 AM ^
1st half was good. Used your stud receivers in both quick hits and downfield. 2nd half was Pep. Long/slow developing routes. Tarik/Nico didn’t get hardly any targets. Can’t gappen. The receiving core is the highlight of this team, get them the damn ball!!
August 31st, 2019 at 11:51 PM ^
And the fade to Mikey. He’s quick as hell but let him cut and do his thing...don’t try to float him one.
September 1st, 2019 at 8:29 AM ^
I would say the OLine was the main problem. They couldn’t pass block or pick up a blitz. Damn near every time Shea dropped back he was under pressure.
September 1st, 2019 at 12:22 AM ^
How so? Ronnie Bell dropped 2 touchdowns. Shea fumbled. Could have scored every
drive in the first half.
August 31st, 2019 at 11:23 PM ^
Shea had pretty good game. Even quite a few of the incompletions were well thrown balls. Hell, he had 3 TDs and 197 yards passing at the half.
At least it isn't JOK out there.
August 31st, 2019 at 11:37 PM ^
“Well grown balls.” Nice touch! Ha ha
August 31st, 2019 at 11:39 PM ^
When I was a boy I hoped to someday have well grown balls.
August 31st, 2019 at 11:25 PM ^
Shea was 17/29 for 203 yards and 3TDs in limited time; good for a 151 QBR.
You need to sack the fuck up and post like a senior. It's incomprehensible to me that you struggled this badly in this thread.