December 3rd, 2010 at 5:20 PM ^
Dissapointing really wanted to play against Florida.
December 3rd, 2010 at 5:27 PM ^
We are back in a bowl game. Does it really matter who we play? The last two years should make you appreciate this a bit more.
December 3rd, 2010 at 5:33 PM ^
But I did wanna play Florida too. I saw Tenn play a couple times. They were pretty bad.
December 3rd, 2010 at 5:38 PM ^
Well Florida is pretty bad too. But they can at least count FWIW.
December 3rd, 2010 at 6:48 PM ^
Tennessee would be the easiest opponent -- and as much fun as it would be to play Florida, it's much more important to Michigan's future that we win the game.
Plus, we get to avenge our 45-17 loss to Tennessee in the 2002 Citrus Bowl. (What? Michigan got blown off the field when people other than RR were coaching the team? IMPOSSIBLE)
December 3rd, 2010 at 7:24 PM ^
"What? Michigan got blown off the field when people other than RR were coaching the team? IMPOSSIBLE"
Yeah, but it didn't happen FIVE times in 2001/2002.
December 3rd, 2010 at 7:28 PM ^
"What? Michigan got blown off the field when people other than RR were coaching the team? IMPOSSIBLE"
Yeah, but it didn't happen FIVE times in 2001/2002.
Edit: Sorry for the double post. Didn't know how to delete.
December 3rd, 2010 at 7:40 PM ^
It didn't happen five times in 2010/2011 either.
December 3rd, 2010 at 7:45 PM ^
MSU lost by 17
Iowa lost by 10
Penn State lost by 10
Wisconsin lost by 20
Ohio State lost by 30
All losses were by double digits. Three of them were by 17 or more. This might not qualify as "blown off the field".....but it's certainly not good either.
December 3rd, 2010 at 7:47 PM ^
It's like people don't realize touchdowns are seven points.
December 3rd, 2010 at 7:51 PM ^
Three of the games were decided by at least three scores. Penn State took a knee in the red zone at the end of the game or that would have been three scores. In my mind, three scores consititutes a blow out. It's certainly not like it was close.
Reality.....try it, you'll like it.
December 3rd, 2010 at 7:56 PM ^
Right. Reality.
How many games were actually "blowouts" as you claimed? Because you said five, and I'm confused about that. I'm sorry but 10 point losses are not blowouts, no matter how much you want the coach fired. I dunno about you, but I tend to only count the scores the other team actually, you know, scores.
So the reality is: you're wrong.
December 3rd, 2010 at 10:08 PM ^
All games were double digit losses. None of them were particularly close. If you watched the games you, know this. Granted, the Wisky and OSU losses were the most egregious. MSU and PSU were pretty much decided by halftime. The Iowa game had potential but was the outcome was never really in doubt.
PSU didn't score another TD because they had pity on Michigan. They took a knee knowing full well that they could score again (and you know it too). If you want to ask for (or accept) pity that's fine, Monsieur.
I never said that I wanted the coach fired. I said (or at least tried to imply) that Michigan was not competitive in its five losses this year. You can dispute that all you want but you're just fooling yourself.
December 3rd, 2010 at 11:39 PM ^
It's like you don't get that low double digit losses aren't blowouts in a game where you can score seven points at a time. How hard is it to understand?
December 4th, 2010 at 9:24 AM ^
Three of the five losses were by 17 or more points. Since 17 isn't a low double digit, it's apparent that you concede three of the games were blowouts (and a fourth game was a "pity" away from a blow out).
17 points is three full scores. Since the average team gets around three possessions in a quarter, you'd need another full 15 minutes of football time to get back into the game (without letting the other team score).
So there were three blowouts instead of five (with a fourth right on the brink).
December 3rd, 2010 at 8:21 PM ^
Well into my fourth decade of watching Michigan football. I'm pretty sure the two games that we were most overmatched were Tennessee and Oregon.
December 3rd, 2010 at 8:28 PM ^
Yuck!
December 3rd, 2010 at 10:42 PM ^
In my fifth decade of watching Michigan football. I'd say that OSU in 2008 was the most overmatched game during that time.
December 3rd, 2010 at 8:08 PM ^
December 3rd, 2010 at 10:14 PM ^
I'm saying that they were not blown out on a regular basis like they have been in the recent past. Yes, they lost to Tennessee by 28 in 2002. All of their other three losses that year were by less than a TD (a total of 11 points across the three games).
You can look at the Tenny loss as an outlier, an aberration for that season. None of the losses this year would fall into that category.
December 4th, 2010 at 7:38 AM ^
It's an aberration because in the 1990s and early 2000s, the Big Ten was a weak conference and we would get blown out by also-ran teams from other conferences. The teams that blew us out this year (OSU, Wisc) are legit on a national level (look at what OSU did to Oregon last year).
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<br>This isn't to say that we don't need to get better. But this romanticization of the Lloyd-Mo-Bo era is ridiculous.
December 6th, 2010 at 10:33 AM ^
Maybe in the 70's and 80's, sure....but how many Big Ten programs are better now than they were in the 90's and early 2000's?
Illinois - about the same, up and down, occasional good season. (2001 last really good team...early 2000s)
Indiana - continued suckage
Iowa- Good in early 90's, best Ferentz seasons early 2000s.
MSU - Perles, Saban MSU a lot better than everything since, up till this year.
Minnesota - Glenn Mason, the only respectable coach they've had since Lou Holtz was out by 2006.
Northwestern - all their championship years and Rose Bowl year was the years you speak of. Barnett had a much better program than they've been recently.
OSU- probably about the same. But they did win their National Title in the early 2000s.
PSU - was a LOT better in the 90's, with an undefeated season, and consistent record. It wasn't till the early 2000s they started becoming up and down...which they still are to this day.
Purdue- only good years since the 60's were Tillers early years, and that's when the Brees years took place. Much worse now.
Wisconsin - still consistently strong. But they went to 3 Rose Bowls in the 90s. This is their first since then. So they were better then.
The only real difference is Michigan was a much better team then (making a stronger conference). And most of the League has gotten weaker with them. The Big Ten had a 7-1 streak in the Rose Bowl during the 90's (and yes, the Pac-Ten was down...but you've already made the case elsewhere that they're not that good now, either). So it's not romanticizing....it's just fact.
December 4th, 2010 at 9:16 AM ^
What? This "Explosive" high powered offense has only scored 24 points in the last 3 years against the Buckeyes? IMPOSSIBLE!
December 4th, 2010 at 8:36 AM ^
DeAnthony Arnett. Seems fair.
December 3rd, 2010 at 5:44 PM ^
A bad bowl opponent is a....good thing?
For a lot of people the bowl W is more important than the quality of the opponent.
December 3rd, 2010 at 6:13 PM ^
any different than playing UMASS/Baby Seal U/Indiana? I would rather see an opponent that we have a chance against than play in another blow out.
December 3rd, 2010 at 6:20 PM ^
Is there a missing /s?
UMass and Delaware St aren't AQ teams (or in DSU's case, even D1), and Indiana isn't a bowl eligible SEC team, so this comparison makes no sense. In a perfect year, we'd be playing an undefeated #2 ranked______ for the MNC, but in a relatively mediocre year for Michigan football, I am perfectly happy to watch us romp any SEC team in a bowl...certainly more than I want to see Ok St or someone else crush us in the Insight.
December 3rd, 2010 at 8:07 PM ^
The point that I was trying to make was that a match up against an inferior opponent, no matter who at this point, would be just fine with me. I think we are making similar points but not doing it well.
December 3rd, 2010 at 10:18 PM ^
Yes, this.
I agree.
December 3rd, 2010 at 8:30 PM ^
well said because at least this bowl is a respectable one...as long as Michigan shows up
December 3rd, 2010 at 10:21 PM ^
but beating down a team by 20 would look pretty good to recruits too, wouldn't it?
i mean, going from Alabama to a 6-6 Tennessee in 2 days certainly is a roller coaster, but i personally don't think our kids are ready for 'Bama yet. maybe playing an SEC team in florida would be better. especially one that we have the ability to look good against.
whoever though, you're right in the end. thank God we're back to getting the extra game. offseasons have been loooooooong lately.
December 3rd, 2010 at 5:51 PM ^
and i thought this ad on gatorbowl.com front page was a giveway...
December 3rd, 2010 at 6:01 PM ^
You're reading the secret code all wrong! You have to look at the picture as if it were a book and read it left to right.
The first two items are then Michigan and Tennessee....come on man. You're better than that.
December 3rd, 2010 at 7:49 PM ^
Well clearly you can't wear TWO sweatshirts - so you put on the Michigan shirt and the Tennesee hat. Or the Florida shirt and the Iowa hat. Not sure what you do with the Razorbacks hat.
December 3rd, 2010 at 6:00 PM ^
I would have prefered Florida as well but what the hell.
1) Its against a beatable SEC team
2) Its New Years Day
3) Most importantly, its on ESPN2 when Lil Bro is on ESPN so we get all the ratings and MSU gets pimped by us after all. muuuuaaaahh ha hahahaha
Gotta Love the Irony
December 4th, 2010 at 2:34 AM ^
Dissapointing really wanted to play against Florida.
We desperately need to win this bowl game and the Vols are a much more favorable match-up.
December 3rd, 2010 at 5:23 PM ^
I bed Arnett will have something to say about this matchup. Maybe if we beat them really really bad he'll commit again.
December 3rd, 2010 at 5:34 PM ^
I must have missed his "Hello..." post. My thinking is that if he commits after that bowl game, it would be because of a change in head coach here.
December 3rd, 2010 at 5:42 PM ^
I don't blame you for missing his commitment. It only lasted a few minutes and, though clearly a spoof, I choose to believe he was very dedicated to the program during those few minutes.
December 3rd, 2010 at 6:53 PM ^
Please fix your typo.
December 3rd, 2010 at 5:22 PM ^
December 3rd, 2010 at 5:23 PM ^
How (or why) did 6-6 Tennessee get into the Gator Bowl ahead of Florida? Lame.
December 3rd, 2010 at 6:25 PM ^
December 3rd, 2010 at 6:24 PM ^
More Tennessee fans would come from out of state and buy tickets and spend money than the already in-state and not-real-excited-about-the-gator bowl Florida fans.
December 3rd, 2010 at 8:31 PM ^
when the Tennessee fans drive their homes to the bowl games!
December 3rd, 2010 at 9:20 PM ^
That my friend was funny as hell!!