Michigan vs OSU: QBs since 2001
At some point this has to even out, no?
Navarre (01-03) and Henne (04-06) were the last real stability Michigan's enjoyed. Since 2007, Michigan has been forced to play 7 (8?) quarterbacks vs OSU:
2007 - Ryan Mallet (Henne hurt/ineffective)
2008 - Nick Sheridan
2009 - Tate Forcier
2010 - Tate Forcier (Denard hurt)
2011 - Denard Robinson
2012 - Devin Gardner (was a WR all season, Denard hurt)
2013 - Devin Gardner (broke foot in game)
2014 - Devin Gardner
2015 - Jake Rudock (knocked out w/shoulder injury)
2016 - Wilton Speight (injured shoulder)
2017 - John O'Korn (?) (Speight/Brandon Peters injured)
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Since 2001, OSU has used 6 quarterbacks TOTAL:
Craig Krenzel, Troy Smith, Braxton Miller, Terelle Pryor, JT Barrett (3 starts each), and Todd Boeckman (ha-ha).
November 18th, 2017 at 6:51 PM ^
November 18th, 2017 at 11:22 PM ^
Even if he came here we would’ve had to win every game as a shootout.
November 18th, 2017 at 11:54 PM ^
are playing qb in the NFL now? Gee, I can't think of any. And yet, MSU has a whole bunch who will be playing tomorrow.
November 18th, 2017 at 7:02 PM ^
November 18th, 2017 at 7:11 PM ^
Disaster? We're 8-3 while playing with one of the least experienced rosters in the country and have been hit very hard with injuries.
November 18th, 2017 at 7:46 PM ^
correct.
But...after a loss a lot of people don't want to hear facts or rational thought.
Not happy to see M with 3 losses, but...
OSU has been absolutely blown out of the water 3 times in the last 12 months. They have a stellar roster and staff. Yet they have been blown out 3 times.
And 3 losses (or 4 if M loses again) is not terrible for a super young roster in what is (for those willling to consider facts) a rebuild year after a record setting number of guys getting drafted, plus some very key injuries.
Have people seen FSU this year? Is Jimbo Fisher suddenly and overpaid idiot (as too many posting here are suggesting about JH)? Get real people.
November 18th, 2017 at 8:35 PM ^
November 18th, 2017 at 10:48 PM ^
I just hope many posters have been drinking heavily because you're right. There's some stupid and nasty things being posted today.
November 18th, 2017 at 7:02 PM ^
November 19th, 2017 at 12:00 AM ^
thing at high profile football programs. We used to have that at Michigan. And now we have an injured starter at qb or the prospect of starting a backup because the starter is out, which sort of impacts your ability to compete on a high level with other teams with veteran qbs.
November 18th, 2017 at 7:14 PM ^
November 18th, 2017 at 7:37 PM ^
JH will have a Big Ten contender once he can establish excellence and continuity at QB.
He also needs a better o-line.
Other than those two things, the rest of the pieces really are already in place.
Gotta be patient, however, until the o-line and QB situations get straightened out.
Peters and McCaffrey are RS freshman and a freshman. The o-line is not conistent at pass protection, but guys like Onwenu and Ruiz are promising for underclass guys.
You have to look at facts, instead of just saying 'Harbaugh sucks can't win the big game etc.'
Only 30 guys in the 2014 and 2015 classes combined (and the quality level in those classes was not championship level either). Those are are the classes that normally would be the core of the team this year.
November 18th, 2017 at 10:18 PM ^
calling tinkerbell
November 18th, 2017 at 7:40 PM ^
We've definately had a lot of bad luck with injuries at the QB position. We've also really struggled with the o-line for quite a few years now. I think the o-line has put our QB's health in danger. But, the big thing I notice is that our roster simply can't handle injuries the way OSU's can. If we get injuries we're playing true freshman or transfers we've crossing our fingers will work out. If OSU gets injuries they're playing other top recruits that are just a year younger than the guy ahead of them. Our coaching instability the past 10 years has really done a number on our roster. This will get better next year, but we're not there yet.
November 18th, 2017 at 10:19 PM ^
we need better bandaids
November 19th, 2017 at 12:46 AM ^
Has been the difference between us being a good team over the past 3 years, and a great team. We have almost no depth, especially this year. Teams like OSU, Clemson, and Alabama have guys sitting on the bench that would start for almost every other team.
In a couple of years having a third year guy like Ambry Thomas playing behind fourth year guys Lavert Hill and David Long will make all the difference. Jaylen Kelly-Powell looks like a good young prospect but he is a true freshman and with Hill out today he got picked on, and it hurt.
November 18th, 2017 at 7:54 PM ^
November 18th, 2017 at 10:21 PM ^
Top Recruit: "hey, let's NOT go to UM and get my career (or me) killed"
November 18th, 2017 at 8:06 PM ^
November 18th, 2017 at 9:00 PM ^
November 18th, 2017 at 9:06 PM ^
11-2-1
I'll take it.
November 18th, 2017 at 10:44 PM ^
November 18th, 2017 at 11:20 PM ^
Gardner was a shell shocked, broken shade of his former self going into the 2014 OSU game.
November 18th, 2017 at 11:39 PM ^
November 19th, 2017 at 12:19 AM ^
Also, Driesbach was a sophomore that year. Griese was a junior.
November 18th, 2017 at 8:09 PM ^
In 2007, Henne started and played most of the game (Mallett only had 3 pass attempts)
In 2010, Denard started and played over 1/2 of the game.
November 18th, 2017 at 8:18 PM ^
Henne was not close to healthy in that '07 game. He gutted it out because it was his last shot but frankly shouldn't have played.
November 18th, 2017 at 8:36 PM ^
November 18th, 2017 at 8:51 PM ^
I'm unclear what the relevance of this is. What point are you trying to make?
November 18th, 2017 at 11:18 PM ^
November 19th, 2017 at 8:33 AM ^
November 19th, 2017 at 11:57 AM ^
Navarre in '01 --> that should have been Henson and a W had he not taken Yankee cash.
Sheridan in '08 -> not his fault, he would have had competition to start at Albion
Forcier in '09 -> reminded me of Navarre in '01
We really only had THREE great performances in those games.
Navarre in '03 and DRob in '11 and Devin in '13 (until the pick on the 2-pt pass)
Of all those losses, the worst was Lloyd punting out of FG formation for 22 yards late in '05. Henne was good enough that day with NO running game to win.