Michigan Offers Delano Hill
According to a tweet from Allen Trieu, UM has offered current Iowa commit and Cass Tech DB Delano Hill. Could this be what Sam Webb's cryptic tweet was referring to???
Detroit Cass Tech safety and #Iowa commit Delano Hill offered by#Michigan http://recruiting.scout.com/a.z?s=73&p=8&c=1&cfg=null&nid=5930016 …
December 12th, 2012 at 4:15 PM ^
you are. That was actually Southfleet who moved to safety
December 13th, 2012 at 9:57 AM ^
I believe you meant to say Soufleet
December 12th, 2012 at 4:11 PM ^
Any indication regarding his interest level or if he is going to or has visited unofficially before?
December 12th, 2012 at 7:24 PM ^
AFAIK, Hill has not visited Michigan at any point, at least not in the last year.
EDIT: I take the above statement back - Hill visited back in March.
http://touchthebanner.blogspot.com/2012/03/weekend-visitors-march-16-18…
December 12th, 2012 at 4:11 PM ^
Do you guys think this is a move that means the coaches aren't confident in landing McQuay? Or is there possible attrition from this class or someone on the current roster?
December 12th, 2012 at 4:11 PM ^
That Hoke is putting out offers for Cass Tech kids (good players too) with not a whole lot of hope of actually getting them, but more to keep the pipeline. There have been a lot of interesting offers to local kids lately and not really a ton of push to actually get them. It seems that they may be doing this to stay in the good graces of many coaches and schools.
Again, not saying these aren't good prospects, just seems they've been doing it a lot in the past month or so.
December 12th, 2012 at 5:11 PM ^
"There have been a lot of interesting offers to local kids lately and not really a ton of push to actually get them."
How do you know this? A statement (or really an accusation) like this means you have insider information that allows you to compare the recruiting efforts of this staff among different recruits. Is that the case, or are you just making shit up?
December 12th, 2012 at 5:32 PM ^
It's not an accusation. Sending out offers to keep a pipeline open, if that is what Hoke is doing, isn't wrong.
December 12th, 2012 at 5:45 PM ^
I was making an observation on how it appears to me. I didn't say that they were doing that and I know it, I said it seems like that. The fact that they have been offering a lot of local kids may be because they think they have a better shot at landing them this late in the process, or it could be to stay in the good graces of the coaches and schools. To me it seems more like the latter rather than the former, but I could be wrong.
So, no, I'm not just making shit up. You need to read the context of my post before getting pissy about something that was in no way disrespectful (or as you call it, "an accusation", as if the coaches were doing what I have the feeling they are doing is bad to begin with).
December 13th, 2012 at 8:02 AM ^
Haha, Wow. No. You speculated as to why they were handing out a lot of offers ("it seems like"), but you did not spectulate that they were not putting any "push" behind them. You stated the latter as fact. You may want to read your own post for crying out loud. There's one basic thing you are not allowing for - time. If the coaches just put out these offers, it might take time for them to put some "push" behind them. Let it play out a bit before you accuse them of just throwing out offers and not really trying to recruit those who were offered.
Dont accuse me of being pissy by mischaracterizing what you wrote. Re-read your own post first.
December 12th, 2012 at 4:13 PM ^
Is it me or does it seem like the coaching staff are scrambling a little bit by now offering people that they could have and didn't offer earlier in the process?
December 12th, 2012 at 4:17 PM ^
I don't think it's "scrambling" as much as trying to tie up loose ends. This is sort of what happens at the end of a recruiting process to fill in spots. Things start to align, the roster starts to sort itself out through injuries and attrition, kids narrow their lists, and new offers go out.
This is how we got Bellomy, Poole, Norfleet, etc.
December 12th, 2012 at 4:17 PM ^
I don't think so.
It's not really scrambling when you've had 20+ commits since the Summer. I think it's in part to keep the pipelines a flowin', and in part to say we took a swing at the players the coaches wanted
December 12th, 2012 at 4:22 PM ^
Maybe to a small extent, but that's what happens when you aren't a school that oversigns. You don't already have a player lined up for unanticipated decommitments, like Conley/Dawson, or transfers of guys on the current roster.
December 12th, 2012 at 6:45 PM ^
I saw that Texas A&M (I believe) have 34 commits. How is this legal?
December 12th, 2012 at 8:26 PM ^
There are limits on how many they can sign though. I believe the NCAA allows 28 + up to 3 EE depending on the size of their previous class..
December 12th, 2012 at 8:32 PM ^
I don't think that's true. From what I understand, the NCAA has no rule on class size, they just need to be at 85 by the time fall camp starts.
December 12th, 2012 at 10:16 PM ^
Houston Nutt like oversigning. http://www.ncaa.org/wps/wcm/connect/public/Test/Issues/Recruiting/Football+Recruiting The limit on the ultimate class size by has been in place for awhile.
December 13th, 2012 at 3:10 AM ^
recruit, I'd be looking for an escape route just in case
December 12th, 2012 at 4:24 PM ^
December 12th, 2012 at 5:20 PM ^
The coaches know they're not going to land every recruit they want. As positions open up and elite recruits choose other schools, the coaches move down their preference tier.
The recent offers probably have something to do with the regular season being finished too. The coaches were kind of busy in September to November...
December 12th, 2012 at 4:15 PM ^
Noo, they are doing it because Delano Hill,, is actually a good athlete.
December 12th, 2012 at 4:16 PM ^
December 12th, 2012 at 4:18 PM ^
4 star to Rivals & Scout, 3 star to ESPN, regarded as top-25 safety by all three. Not sure if that qualifies as "under the radar."
December 12th, 2012 at 4:21 PM ^
December 12th, 2012 at 4:24 PM ^
Probably nitpicking here but I would grant he may be "overshadowed" by some of his teammates but I don't think he is a diamond in the rough (under the radar) sort of find by the coaches.
December 12th, 2012 at 4:26 PM ^
"You don't hear about him when anybody mentions this years Cass Tech team."
Speak for yourself.
December 12th, 2012 at 4:44 PM ^
Magnus-- What are your thoughts on Hill?
December 12th, 2012 at 4:50 PM ^
I haven't seen much of him this year, but I wasn't all that impressed with his junior film. He has pretty good speed, but he's not a great tackler and isn't very physical. He played mostly in the box for Cass Tech, so I imagine he'd be a strong safety (not big enough to be a LB). It would be nice if he were a better tackler. Maybe he's put on some weight, added some strength, and improved that aspect of his game, though.
He's a good athlete, but he needs to be coached up.
December 12th, 2012 at 5:04 PM ^
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December 12th, 2012 at 4:26 PM ^
December 12th, 2012 at 4:32 PM ^
He was one of the faster recruits at The Opening. It was reported that he ran a 4.4 40. I'm not sure how many fakes we should give it.
December 12th, 2012 at 5:15 PM ^
December 12th, 2012 at 9:25 PM ^
Only 4.4? Not impressed, MOVE ON!
/s
December 12th, 2012 at 4:22 PM ^
I'm not sure if you can call him under the radar. He has been committed to a big10 school since april, plays for a prominent, familiar, and good high school team, and is a 4* to 247, scout, and rivals. I'm not sure what about that leads you to under the radar. It just seems like he is the replacement offer to McQuay, who the coaches feel is unlikely to end up here. I don't mean that in a bad way, I think he would be a good addition to the class, just that McQuay is an elite prospect.
December 12th, 2012 at 4:30 PM ^
December 12th, 2012 at 4:30 PM ^
Be a part of the pipeline Delano.
December 12th, 2012 at 4:54 PM ^
nevermind
December 12th, 2012 at 4:51 PM ^
This is an interesting offer. A 4 star from a pipe line school. I'm unsure if Hill is as interested in Michigan as many of the other Technicians, as I haven't really heard much from him. Will be interesting if he decided to take a visit here, or if he decides to stick with his Iowa commitment. I must say, recruiting is picking up a bit recently!
December 12th, 2012 at 4:55 PM ^
Are we going to have an all Cass Tech secondary at some point if we can turn Hill?
December 12th, 2012 at 5:02 PM ^
I was in faver of offering Hill along time ago.I think it is important to go after in state talent and keeping a pipeline flowing. Also he is a 4 star across the board!Not a bad consolation prize if Mcquay goes elsewhere.
December 12th, 2012 at 5:20 PM ^
With or without Hill the pipeline is flowing.
Offering/not offerring Hill would have no impact whatsoever on that pipeline.
December 12th, 2012 at 6:40 PM ^
You have no idea how this offer would affect future recruiting at Cass Tech. If you think kids, parents, coaches and family members don’t take these things personally you are mistaken. When a kid gets an offer from a school it makes the kid and the coach feel validated. The opposite of that is feeling slighted. If a player/coach feels slighted by a team they may act and talk negatively about that team. Now if they have been given reason to like a school they may keep it positive. Many People around the Cass Tech program are connected. It’s a fairly reasonable assumption that this could affect a future situation.Are 17 and 18 year old kids easily swayed?
December 12th, 2012 at 5:42 PM ^
December 12th, 2012 at 6:18 PM ^
What would the points be based on? Your round thing assumes that the person allocating points actually knows the coaches plans.
December 12th, 2012 at 7:59 PM ^
December 12th, 2012 at 8:26 PM ^
This whole platform of yours only focuses on the guys late in the process. Most teams lose out on those guys, because they have a list of 5 or so top teams, and pick one. And it totally negates all of the great pick ups we made early in the season. Hoke has been very good at getting top talent to commit early, and by identifying talent before anyone else does. But one of the downfalls of getting lots of commits early is that you get fewer at the end.
How about we just look at how good our class is at the end and not worry about whether they committed in December or February?
December 12th, 2012 at 8:39 PM ^
December 12th, 2012 at 6:15 PM ^
Hill is almost up to 200 pounds and stands about 6'2. Good size. Legit speed for someone his size too. He was a BEAST at The Opening, which had all the top prospects in attendance. Ball-hawk type, and has very good fundamentals IRT tackling, wrapping up, etc. Very good at coming down hill(no pun). He has gotten and is more physical than a year ago.