i find this extremely interesting
Michigan Iowa thread
November 5th, 2011 at 3:04 PM | 
Scramble, Denard!!!
Scramble, Denard!!!
November 5th, 2011 at 3:04 PM |
soooo
soooo
many drops
If an OSU fan divorces his wife are they still brother and sister?
November 5th, 2011 at 3:04 PM |
Please
Please
Please Denard if there is a hole take off and run.
November 5th, 2011 at 3:06 PM |
posted from iPhone
posted from iPhone
70% of the passes should go to Hemingway or Roundtree.
November 5th, 2011 at 3:06 PM |
Should have gotten out of bounds
Should have gotten out of bounds
Nice gain...told you this was going to be fun
Lucky enough to have my own JT wristband!!
November 5th, 2011 at 3:06 PM |
posted from iPhone
posted from iPhone
Great effort Roundtree
"All I've had today is, like, six gummy bears and some scotch"
November 5th, 2011 at 3:07 PM |
I tell you what Denard might
I tell you what Denard might
I tell you what Denard might not be scrambling but he seems on target with his passes now...
You have to play this game like somebody just hit your mother with a two-by-four. ~Dan Birdwell
November 5th, 2011 at 3:08 PM |
TD
TD
TD Michigan
WHAT
WHAT
November 5th, 2011 at 3:09 PM |
That is a touchdown, we'll
That is a touchdown, we'll
That is a touchdown, we'll wait for you on the field...great grab!!!
You have to play this game like somebody just hit your mother with a two-by-four. ~Dan Birdwell
November 5th, 2011 at 3:51 PM |
Not said sarcastically
Not said sarcastically
Is there any way to get the replay official's take on why Hemmingway's TD wouldn't have counted? His knee was down and controlled the football. Isn't that a TD in college football? I get that the ball hit the ground, but it was still in his hands and it never moved once. Just wanted to hear why the replay guy thought it was inconclusive.
Steve Fisher is an Illinois State University alumnus and an Aries.
November 5th, 2011 at 3:09 PM |
Guess who joined
Guess who joined
Michigan Fable wr history
Lucky enough to have my own JT wristband!!
November 5th, 2011 at 3:11 PM |
3rd down for
3rd down for
3rd down for Michigan
Shotgun
Robinson
THROWS
TCAUGHT
NO NO
November 5th, 2011 at 3:11 PM |
this is too much like X
this is too much like X
this is too much like X box...
You have to play this game like somebody just hit your mother with a two-by-four. ~Dan Birdwell
November 5th, 2011 at 3:11 PM |
Last gasp 4th and
Last gasp 4th and
Last gasp 4th and game
Shotgun
INCOMPLETE
November 5th, 2011 at 3:11 PM |
No scrambles...
No scrambles...
No scrambles...
You have to play this game like somebody just hit your mother with a two-by-four. ~Dan Birdwell
November 5th, 2011 at 3:13 PM |
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posted from iPhone
And that is a travesty
November 5th, 2011 at 3:12 PM |
Horrible officiating
Horrible officiating
Horrible officiating
If I say a duck can pull a truck, shut up and hook the sucka up!
November 5th, 2011 at 3:14 PM |
I am so embarrassed for this
I am so embarrassed for this
I am so embarrassed for this officiating crew.
What an unmitigated abortion.
Live from the Hammock District.
November 5th, 2011 at 3:12 PM |
Michigan was rob!
Michigan was rob!
What a blown call
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November 5th, 2011 at 3:12 PM |
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posted from iPhone
Absolute great officiating. Fitting the game would end on a phantom pass interference.
All in for some manball.
November 5th, 2011 at 3:13 PM |
posted from iPhone
posted from iPhone
How was that not a td?
As the creeper that girdles the tree-trunk
the Law runneth forward and back --
For the strength of the Pack is the Wolf,
and the strength of the Wolf is the Pack.
November 5th, 2011 at 3:13 PM |
fuck the refs
fuck the refs
fuck the refs
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November 5th, 2011 at 3:13 PM |
BULLSHIT.
BULLSHIT.
THAT WAS A TD. HIS KNEE HIT THE GROUND IN THE ENDZONE FIRST
"We can stay here, get the shit kicked out of us, or we can fight our way back. Into the light. We can climb out of hell. One inch at a time."
November 5th, 2011 at 3:14 PM |
As long as Denard is our QB
As long as Denard is our QB
As long as Denard is our QB we will never be good. If Devin is our QB we will be even worse. This is what the call a no-win situation.
November 5th, 2011 at 3:14 PM |
Our receivers got raped the
Our receivers got raped the
Our receivers got raped the whole damn game!
If I say a duck can pull a truck, shut up and hook the sucka up!
November 5th, 2011 at 3:14 PM |
Calling Lane Kiffin
Calling Lane Kiffin
Wish he could make a few comments of that officiating. PI!!!!!!!!
Fucking jobbed, sickening. I don't mind losing if we don't play well - which we didn't really. But that was bad.
November 5th, 2011 at 3:15 PM |
WHO IS AFRAID...
WHO IS AFRAID...
Of phantom pass interference?
All in for some manball.
November 5th, 2011 at 3:16 PM |
worst reffing job I've seen
worst reffing job I've seen
worst reffing job I've seen in years. pathetic. They steal a touchdown away from us then let the Iowa coverman get away with being draped all over roundtree on the final play. Complaints need to be filed for this game. Such horse shit.
November 5th, 2011 at 3:31 PM |
Don't forget about the
Don't forget about the
Don't forget about the flag-picked-up PI call on Roundtree in the first half, and the PI on the Denard goal line int.
November 5th, 2011 at 3:17 PM |
Fire Borges already!
Fire Borges already!
He has Denard Robinson and doesn't call one roll out with 4 shots from the three.
November 5th, 2011 at 3:19 PM |
I'm not a big fan of Al
I'm not a big fan of Al
I'm not a big fan of Al Borges after this. Why are we using the Gardner sets so much? Apparently, we have to throw away some plays every game for no reason.
No rollouts on the goal line? The MSU game was a worse called game than this, but this one was still awful. Put another one in the "Borges has no idea how to maximize this personnel" column.
So disappointing.
Whammy!
November 5th, 2011 at 3:20 PM |
I'm not a big fan of Al
I'm not a big fan of Al
I'm not a big fan of Al Borges after this. Why are we using the Gardner sets so much? Apparently, we have to throw away some plays every game for no reason.
No rollouts on the goal line? The MSU game was a worse called game than this, but this one was still awful. Put another one in the "Borges has no idea how to maximize this personnel" column.
So disappointing.
Whammy!
November 5th, 2011 at 3:22 PM |
So embarrassed for this
So embarrassed for this
So embarrassed for this officiating crew. What an unmitigated abortion.
Live from the Hammock District.
November 5th, 2011 at 3:35 PM |
It's funny how the TV
It's funny how the TV
It's funny how the TV announcers can have such an impact on viewers' opinions. Because Spielman kept blabbering on about the need to call a rollout, a bunch of posters are parroting him now. I would not have called a rollout because 1) Denard doesn't throw that well on the run and 2) you can't afford to be tackled inbounds with no timeouts.
There was nothing wrong with the playcalling. The second-down play was a TD, but the officials blew the call. The third-down play should have been a TD, but Smith dropped it. The fourth-down play was clearly interference. This is on the officials. The only coaching move I'd second-guess was calling the timeout instead of spiking. If we'd saved the timeout, we could have called a running play, but OTOH, we would have lost a down.
November 5th, 2011 at 4:12 PM |
Parroting, no
Parroting, no
The most dangerous player in college football, apparently, can put some pressure on the edge with only three yards to defend. Sure, they are accounting for him but if I'm covering the shallow route in the end zone, I'm left with "Oh, here comes Denard, uh, go, stay, go, stay, oh crap" defense.
It's a bit easier in "out there" but not so much in the endzone area. Also, DRob is a crappy pocket passer, and I know you can see that. So, making him make a decision to force balls into double coverage is much worse than getting him on the edge to the wide side of field with only three yards to get.
November 5th, 2011 at 4:37 PM |
Denard's really not a great
Denard's really not a great
Denard's really not a great passer anywhere, if we're being honest. And I don't think the odds of him running it in were great given that he was obviously Iowa's top concern. He may have been able to get a receiver open in the endzone by rolling out, but he's had problems completing the pass in those situations.
I think Borges called those plays with two big concerns in mind:
1. Being able to run all four plays, if necessary
2. Not losing yardage.
Throwing from the pocket right after the snap accomplishes both of those. We threw the ball to receivers who were isolated on a defender. You can't really complain about that.
There were other moments where I think Borges made poor decisions (the Gardner packages come to mind), but I think he did fine at the end of the game.
November 5th, 2011 at 5:04 PM |
Agreed
Agreed
It was one of the few series Borges got right. We had one TD, one dropped TD, and one CLEAR PI which should have extended it.
Add in the other red zone PI/INT and even without playing very well, we are in position to steal this.
Work in progress (admittedly that is not what I said at the end of the game..)
November 5th, 2011 at 3:39 PM |
Another perfect example of what home-field advantage really is..
Another perfect example of what home-field advantage really is..
Home-field advantage is truly nothing more than the psychology of refereeing. Refs are more likely to give the home team the benefit of the doubt in order to please the fans.
Anyone else read that Sports Illustrated article from last winter that talked about this? It's actually been studied statisically by several independent groups, and most come to the same conclusion.
"That's right. It's an off-tackle play. It's coming right over you. And there's not a thing you can do about it."
November 7th, 2011 at 7:41 AM |
Not Accurate
Not Accurate
I would add that Home Field in Football is more than just the Referree's which I agree with. It is also the crowd noise. Perfect example is MSU this year when we couldn't change our silent snap count because they can't hear on the field.
It also is psychology of the players, having a routine that is normal, not traveling.
All these elements can be overcome, but it is a disadvantage. The statisticians put homefield advantage as a +3 advantage to the home team, but that is really +6 when you consider the swing from the comparison between playing at home versus away.
I can't say that I'm too disappointed in Borges, I hate that the animals come out to attack him when things don't go as planned. There are a lot of variables in the play calling and the people second guessing are arm-chair quarterbacks who of course are always right.
We were Smith's one elbow down away from an amazing score. We were Hemingway's catch away from a TD and chance to go to overtime with successful 2point conversion. We had pass interference that wasn't called, but those would not result in a guaranteed touch down.
All told, we had to score twice, and then get to overtime, and get the win in overtime, so we were a long shot away from winning that game.
What is most disturbing is how unpredictable this all is. We trounced Minnesota who beat Iowa. On paper, it doesn't even appear we should have been close with Iowa. It just goes to show that Any Given Saturday, the players and coaches must come to play and execute, there are going to be unpredicatable bounces of the ball and turns of events.
There is really no explanation for the Big 10 wins and losses this year. Looks like anything can happen, which we already know far too well from our loss to Appalacian State. Sh-T happens, Deal with it, and then time to show what we are made of.
WolverRoudy
November 5th, 2011 at 3:43 PM |
We should have called a
We should have called a
We should have called a rollout run/pass option on the 4th down however. I totally agree with before, since you can't afford to have the clock run out.
The officials were terrible this game, but let's be honest. Our offensive play-calling didn't work in our favor. Edge running wasn't working, drop back passing wasn't working, only running up the tackles where they were weaker was. We got away from that and had shitty production. Then we switch back to the spread option (which this offensive skillset is built around) and have two ~80 yard drives at the end when its basically too late.
I get the need for Borges to transition, but why don't we wait till we have the personnel?
November 5th, 2011 at 4:05 PM |
I hate being that "IT WAS THE
I hate being that "IT WAS THE
I hate being that "IT WAS THE REFS" guy but, goddammit, It was the refs.
November 5th, 2011 at 4:58 PM |
Time to Man Up
Time to Man Up
The refs absolutely need to be reprimanded for their poor performance today but that does not excuse us from the mountain of mistakes, poor decisions and bad play calls. I thought the defense played pretty well today but the offense was ineffective, out of rhythm most of the day and the play calling was suspect at best.
The coaches claim to want to utilize the skills of their current players, then why not use the spread shotgun formation early and often to get Denard rolling with some sure throws / read option plays? Once our QB has some confidence, positive momentum and the defense on their heels we can start to work in the lead draws (I personally don't think lead draws will be very successful against good Big Ten defenses with our current personnel), play action and power game.
Borges has fallen in love with the Devin formations and it hurt us today. Denard has earned the opportunity to lead this team, time to get out of the way and put him in more positions to be succesfful using his current skill sets from the QB position.
Ps. I would have loved to see a run / pass option on 4th & game.
" Michigan Men fight till the end...even in failure we succeed! " The Team! The Team! The Team! GBOD
November 5th, 2011 at 7:32 PM |
Do I dare say...
Do I dare say...
I know Gardner has not played very well, but I think it might be worth a shot to start Gardner over Denard.
Hear me out.
1) We need to establish the pass early.
- Denard simply cannot pass well. Gardner has a better arm and has a better chance of completing passes.
2) By playing Gardner, the defense will not know if Denard is going to throw or run.
- If you use Denard as a runningback/quarterback/ widereciever, BUT stiil continue to give him some passing opportunites, it might be a better attack
3) Establish Ftiz and STOP RUNNING VINCENT SMITH UP THE MIDDLE
- Fitz is our best back period. Stick with him, and hit V.Smith on the slants or dumps, thats the best use for him
Just some thoughts.
Go Blue!
Scramble, Denard!!!
You have to play this game like somebody just hit your mother with a two-by-four. ~Dan Birdwell