Michigan is consistently getting more penalties than their opponents
Penalties-Yards
UM: 7-55 UF: 5-45
UM: 7-68 UC: 4-30
UM: 7-72 AF: 3-29
UM: 7-57 PU: 8-82
UM: 7-53 MSU: 11-81
UM: 16-141 IU: 5-55
UM: 6-59 PSU: 1-10
2016: (Notable B1G games)
UM: 5-48 Iowa: 3-24
UM: 6-45 Wisco: 3-30
UM: 7-59 OSU: 2-6
UM: 7-80 PSU: 2-13
I don't even remember the last time Michigan's DL drew a holding penalty. Obviously UM needs to play with more discipline, but there is a fairly consistent pattern emerging. Very hard for me not to believe there isn't a bias against Harbaugh and Michigan.
October 22nd, 2017 at 9:36 AM ^
October 22nd, 2017 at 1:16 PM ^
October 22nd, 2017 at 8:32 AM ^
October 22nd, 2017 at 8:38 AM ^
People who believe this systemic bias shit probably have a lot of Breitbart and Alex Jones in their browsing history. Occam tells us that they are getting more penalites because they are committing more penalties. Sure, some penalties by other teams go un-called. But that doesnt mean that UM is not committing a bunch of penalties themselves. The reason UM is being called for more is that they are not being coached to an adequate degree to commit less. Simple as that.
October 22nd, 2017 at 9:37 AM ^
October 22nd, 2017 at 10:22 AM ^
Could you re-post this in braille? I'm blind, so all I can see is gibberish. Thanks a bunch!
October 22nd, 2017 at 10:22 AM ^
Probably have a better feel for the game.
October 22nd, 2017 at 9:41 AM ^
October 22nd, 2017 at 1:36 PM ^
October 22nd, 2017 at 8:39 AM ^
October 22nd, 2017 at 8:46 AM ^
October 22nd, 2017 at 8:58 AM ^
Thanks for posting this. I'm so frustrated with refs hating on Michigan it is absolutely ridiculous. This is not just 'fans being upset after a loss' - you've PROVEN that there is a bias.
There is NO WAY that PSU didn't have at LEAST 3 holding penalties not called during the game. Is PSU offensive line THAT much better than Hurst, Mone and Gary???
It is just sickening that observable bias is shown, and no answers for it.
Stats don't lie.
October 22nd, 2017 at 9:08 AM ^
October 22nd, 2017 at 9:19 AM ^
Stats dont lie? You must not be a scientist. Stats tell a mere slice of reality. They are abstractions from the complexity of life. They simultaneoulsy both aid our understanding and narrow it.
All that the data above tell is is that one team seems to be continually getting more penalities than the teams it plays. There is no reason there. To know if this is an actual bias, we would have to, first, look at a larger sample size, then look at trends more generally, and perhaps look at what happens when the teams we play play other teams. In other words, more data are needed to provide reasons.
October 22nd, 2017 at 9:24 AM ^
totally reasonable answer you gave
here's another: maybe we are penalized more b/c we are less disciplined and Mr. Nice coach isn't punishing behavior that hurts the team
October 22nd, 2017 at 9:33 AM ^
October 22nd, 2017 at 9:27 AM ^
October 22nd, 2017 at 9:30 AM ^
October 22nd, 2017 at 9:43 AM ^
October 22nd, 2017 at 9:47 AM ^
no doubt Harbaugh rubs people the wrong way... I think this contributes to some of it... The rest is the youth and inexperience.
October 22nd, 2017 at 9:54 AM ^
I think a better way to truely see if Michigan is getting shafted is for someone to look at each opponent's average penalties per game (quantity and yards) and then compare that to what they had against us.
Then, although not as useful, you could compare the average penalty yards of each opponent's oppenent and then see that compared to our pentalty yards verse them.
I know there is no way to eliminate bias from my own perception of the terrible calls, but good gravy, it sure feels like we are getting no calls. There were 4! grounding calls in the last 2 games that were textbook calls and none were called.
October 22nd, 2017 at 10:19 AM ^
October 22nd, 2017 at 10:33 AM ^
October 22nd, 2017 at 11:26 AM ^
...crickets
October 22nd, 2017 at 11:23 AM ^
Inexperienced teams always commit a ton of penalties.
October 22nd, 2017 at 11:27 AM ^
the Ref look at Harbaugh like, " your team doesn't pay
its Mafia Tribute Tax , tough shit...."
Whoever the Crime Family/Families are who
influence the Refs for College Football, ask again,
maybe they'll start paying to make it fair?
Somebody? We ( U of M ) have tons of Money, right?
I'm half kidding, but not really...
October 22nd, 2017 at 11:34 AM ^
My point was if you look at what Maizen showed, it is clear that we're nearly doubled the penalties over a season and a half (and against strong opponents; psu, osu, msu, wisc ~ avg only 3 penalties per game against Michigan) at nearly 7 penalites per game for big yardage.
And further, I don't think our team has crummy players that hold more than other schools, we're just being CALLED for them more.
The refs ARE against Michigan. If we all agree there is "holding on every play" - why is Michigan being called twice as much as their competition for it?
October 22nd, 2017 at 5:38 PM ^
October 22nd, 2017 at 6:14 PM ^
October 22nd, 2017 at 12:56 PM ^
October 22nd, 2017 at 1:04 PM ^
The lack of holding called against UM's opponents has been a pattern the last 2-3 years, we have had NFL caliber player d-lines and you are seriously telling me that they are only held a handful of times over that timespan, give me a fucking break. UM's opponents have held the shit out of the d-line over the last 2-3 years and for the most part got away with it even when it is obvious and is right in front of the official.
October 22nd, 2017 at 2:33 PM ^
October 22nd, 2017 at 2:35 PM ^
That still makes a handful of holding calls in 3 years against very talented d-lines
October 22nd, 2017 at 3:36 PM ^