Michigan #3 in CFP

Submitted by thejonner02 on November 8th, 2022 at 7:18 PM

I'll take it. Win out and we'll be #1!

CompleteLunacy

November 8th, 2022 at 8:17 PM ^

Meh I almost prefer it this way. Last time we ranked ahead of OSU prior to The Game we got boatraced. 
 

And frankly they should be ahead at this point. That ND win looks better each week especially compared to our win over…UConn? I guess? The only mark above OSU we have is our win over PSU, and honestly I’m not sure that means much.

Ham

November 8th, 2022 at 7:20 PM ^

Georgia will be 1 if they win out.

This thing is setting up for the final 4 being the SEC, B1G, PAC 12, and Big 12 champs.

NittanyFan

November 8th, 2022 at 7:55 PM ^

PSU is in in 2016 if they beat Pitt.  Then they are a 1-loss conference champ with a road victory at the team that themselves won at Clemson (who of course made the playoff and won it all).

It's a bit of a narrative here, but PSU's most costly loss (as regards their playoff chances) in 2016 was Pitt.  Not Michigan.  Beat Pitt, and they're in.

Yes, the Michigan loss was a blow-out ... but there is/was precedent for teams with 1 ugly loss.  The year before (2015), both Michigan State and Oklahoma made the playoffs despite having regular season losses to teams that didn't even finish .500!  At least U-M was good in 2016: Nebraska and Texas in 2015 (who MSU and OU lost too) weren't even good.

TrueBlue2003

November 8th, 2022 at 8:49 PM ^

I don't think close losses to meh teams (like MSU and OU had) are viewed as unfavorably as massive blowouts, even to good teams.  The committee has on numerous occasions cited lopsided losses as reasons teams have been left out (OSU in both 2017 and 2018, with 2018 being especially notable because they were a one loss Big Ten champ and didn't get in).

So I'm not sure PSU would have still gotten in.  It wasn't between them and OSU, it was between them and Washington.  It would have been close but OSU was in regardless (again, thanks to a close - even fluky - loss, which the committee has been much more forgiving of).

They just don't seem to consider close losses as "ugly" as blowouts, regardless of who the loss was to.

cGOBLUEm

November 8th, 2022 at 7:25 PM ^

You are assuming the CFP committee will use logic, set aside their bias, and reward the deserving teams. Unfortunately, I doubt that happens. For the Big 12 and Pac 12, there is little value to winning the conference championship and having 1 loss when compared to a 1-loss SEC team. It isn't right, but we've all seen it. 

Newton Gimmick

November 8th, 2022 at 8:09 PM ^

The assumption that TCU has any real shot at the playoff is way overstated.  They are significant underdogs this week and may even be a slight underdog next week.  Even Iowa St at home will be stingy, and if they survive all that they will get Texas/Baylor/Kansas St again

And presumably, they will have to beat a 1st string QB at some point.  Their luck in that regard is crazy. 

At this point I am just assuming TCU will lose and be out

TrueBlue2003

November 8th, 2022 at 7:49 PM ^

Not necessarily.  They need some help.  Dropping them to 5 means the committee really didn't like the way they looked against UGA.

They don't play any games that will impress the committee the rest of the way so none of those will help them. 

Loser of OSU/UM could very well stay ahead of them if The Game is close.  So they need that to be lopsided.

If that doesn't open up a spot, they need TCU to lose once, possibly twice.

And even if one of those things goes their way, USC and UCLA would pass them if either wins out. Oregon possibly. So they probably need a two loss Pac12 champ.

TrueBlue2003

November 8th, 2022 at 7:40 PM ^

I would bet a lot of money the Big12 champs are not in it, mostly because TCU is likely to lose the title game to a 2 or 3 loss team.

PAC12 probably has to hope USC wins it because it would be tough to put Oregon in with a 46 point loss.

But the path here for Michigan does look possible to make it at 11-1.  Saturday was indeed probably the best reasonable scenario with both Tennessee and Clemson losing convincingly, and Bama losing.

If Michigan keeps it close with OSU, can't see enough teams jumping them.

Keeping Illinois where the committee did probably means a loss to Michigan won't drop them out of the top 25 (if they beat Purdue of course).

NJblue2

November 8th, 2022 at 7:50 PM ^

If Michigan loses any games, I don't think they'll make it. OSU, Georgia and Tennessee will for sure make it and TCU if they're undefeated. If Michigan and TCU lose, I can easily see 3 SEC teams making it because none of their losses are ever bad and all of their wins are always amazing.