Massey Rating: UM #1 by a Country Mile
I like to check in on the Massey ratings once a week. It seemed especially significant to me today, as I was annoyed that the CFP still somehow had Georgia at #1.
The computers (and they are legion) have Michigan as an overwhelming #1. Only a couple of them even had us as low as 3. Georgia's line is littered with 4s, 5s, and worse. Even a 9. I like what that implies. I hope you enjoy perusing the chart as well.
Go Blue. Beat Iowa. One day at a time, we'll turn them all into 1s.
November 28th, 2023 at 11:47 PM ^
Fuck Georgia. A bunch of rednecks running around barking at each other. Hitting them with a rolled up newspaper or rubbing their noses in their pee/poop is the only way to deal with their fans.
November 28th, 2023 at 11:49 PM ^
What the fuck did I just read?
November 28th, 2023 at 11:54 PM ^
Goooooooooioooooo
Geoooooorrrrgiaaaaa
Buuulllll
Daawwwwgggssss
said the gentlemen several rows behind me during the Orange Bowl. They legit bark at each other. And they think we’re the weird ones.
November 28th, 2023 at 11:59 PM ^
Words from a man who sees them on a daily basis....
November 29th, 2023 at 8:03 AM ^
Stream of consciousness from someone raised not wear red and black or to bark at people.
November 28th, 2023 at 11:57 PM ^
Sir, you live in Georgia
November 29th, 2023 at 8:42 AM ^
I'm reminded every time I hear the song "who let the dogs out".
November 28th, 2023 at 11:58 PM ^
Stone Mountain says it all. I mean, it’s just graffiti defacing an otherwise lovely natural feature. Basically, it’s the equivalent of a dog peeing on a fire hydrant. And they call it art. Shameful.
November 29th, 2023 at 8:03 AM ^
Stone Mountain: Honoring and idolizing a bunch of murderous traitors. Blow it up.
November 29th, 2023 at 8:40 AM ^
It's a very popular multicultural gathering point for Atlanta. I don't think as many people that actually live here are offended by it, at least to the point they would want to blow it up. Anyway, that amount of explosives should be sent to Athens instead. That would do a better job addressing your actual underlying concerns.
November 29th, 2023 at 8:54 AM ^
Try the serpent mound in Ohio. Might be the most significant structure in North America, for telling the next crust shift and flood, yet, the Ohio and let trees grow and block the vector view.
November 29th, 2023 at 1:58 AM ^
And their mascot
November 29th, 2023 at 8:11 AM ^
Username checks out!
November 29th, 2023 at 11:09 AM ^
Or does it?
November 29th, 2023 at 11:58 AM ^
Hillbilly =/= redneck. That's insulting.
November 28th, 2023 at 11:48 PM ^
Go, Blue!
Beat Iowa.
November 29th, 2023 at 9:00 AM ^
Hard to take these things serious when James Madison is in the top 20. Sure, they've had a great season for who they are. So has Liberty (composite ranking 22), but does anyone really believe those schools are going to beat Clemson, Utah, UCLA, Kentucky, Wisconsin, whom they are ranked well above?
If these rankings are supposed to predict who is more likely to win a head to head game (and if that isn't the point of ranking teams then what is?), I just can't take them seriously when they rank a team from the Sun Belt or WAC or MAC that highly, unless they have some Marquee out of conference wins.
November 28th, 2023 at 11:52 PM ^
Washington’s ratings were bonkers. Anywhere from 1-21. Quite the spread.
November 28th, 2023 at 11:54 PM ^
If the computers say so then it is so. And anyone who has any interest in not being turned into lubricating oil in the future would be wise to agree with the computers also.
November 29th, 2023 at 7:13 AM ^
Soylent Green.
November 29th, 2023 at 8:16 AM ^
We should just have an AI generated winner, based on 1,000 simulated games and award the champion.
…and then give the Braves the World Series trophy
November 29th, 2023 at 11:32 AM ^
You're Roko's Basilisk, aren't you?
November 29th, 2023 at 12:32 AM ^
At this point, ratings literally don't matter. Win the games. That's it. Win the B1G. Win the Semifinal. Win the Final.
If you want to be the 'champions', then beat everyone else.
Does seeding matter? Not to the champions.
November 29th, 2023 at 6:57 AM ^
Ratings never matter except that they are a quantitative way to compare teams and see if some numbers match the eye test. The fact is that these teams are a field goal apart in performance rating, so the rating is not much of a predictor.
November 29th, 2023 at 12:51 AM ^
Some others I found interesting:
Little brother ranges from 65 to 114, with a composite of 82.
Iowa ranges from 11 to 45 with a composite of 20.
Missouri's outliers are 9s, (where the CFP ridiculously has them) and 20 (almost as likely) with a mode of 13 (then 15, then 14, all of which are way more appropriate than 9).
Somehow Liberty has a 5. But also an 86.
Troy has a 4 (from one of the few that ranked us 3!)
TCU has a 25. And also an 84.
November 29th, 2023 at 1:08 AM ^
F*** TCU! Those flash-in-the-pan A*holes!
November 29th, 2023 at 1:15 AM ^
Nice. But. Same computers previously had Ohio at #1.
November 29th, 2023 at 5:54 AM ^
I think that's because OSU was and still is one of the best teams in the country. We're just definitively better.
November 29th, 2023 at 8:28 AM ^
Also demonstrably better.
November 29th, 2023 at 2:26 AM ^
FYI, that is a compilation of all the different ratings.
The Massey rating is one of the ratings listed. The actual Massey rating is available here: https://masseyratings.com/cf/fbs/ratings
We are ahead of UGA, but not by a ton. We are considerably closer to UGA (.03) than UGA is to the third place team (OSU; .14 delta).
November 29th, 2023 at 5:48 AM ^
i see what you're saying, but that's just kookie...
November 29th, 2023 at 5:57 AM ^
Watching Georgia over the course of the year, they have improved a lot since week 1. They look every part of #1 these last few weeks.
November 29th, 2023 at 8:28 AM ^
Except for last week.
November 29th, 2023 at 6:10 AM ^
Pat, Mike, or both?
November 29th, 2023 at 6:17 AM ^
Yeah, we beat ohio and everybody else.
I keep hearing about Georgia, Oregon, and Washington.
Does anybody want to play Michigan? Raise your hand.
November 29th, 2023 at 7:55 AM ^
Oregon would worry me. Georgia and all their 5-stars too, but not as much as the last two years.
November 29th, 2023 at 11:21 AM ^
I'd bet the players on the top teams do want to play Michigan. As our guys like to say in interviews, that's why they came to Michigan. Other schools' athletes want to prove themselves in big games, too; they're no different.
Why did several Michigan stars come back this year when they could have had a more highly rewarded existence in the NFL? Because they're competitors who cared about their legacy and are willing to play anyone in their way.
I give these young competitors a lot of respect. Most people will never have the cojones or will to do the things they do to prepare, play, and make the most of their talent.
It's the fanbases who don't want to play tough games because their favorite team might lose. The players on top teams live for the spotlight and the big games.
November 29th, 2023 at 6:18 AM ^
So how do Massey Ratings stack up with the true outcomes of any given season? Are they generally accurate prognostications of the playoffs?
These are interesting numbers, but I'm dumb and was distracted by how primitive the site looked: like an old GeoCities or a 90's Myspace page.
November 29th, 2023 at 6:22 AM ^
Two of the AIs STILL have OSU at 1. Wtf???
I guess those two computer models gave less weight to actual results on the field and more weight to toughness and recruiting stars.
November 29th, 2023 at 6:43 AM ^
Beat Iowa.
November 29th, 2023 at 6:43 AM ^
Somewhere on the site you can check the accuracy of each model. Massey was average earlier in the year. The best ones are rather close with very little variance. Been following Sagarin for 40 years. I also like McCormick, Kirkpatrick, and Fleming. Does anyone know if Ashburn has been renamed? It was my favorite as it had an extensive page for each team.
These models provide little help for bowl prediction pools.
Anyone have a link to the information that was on Football Outsiders?
November 29th, 2023 at 8:59 AM ^
Michigan is #1 in the country in basically every metric right now and has the best resume, yet we aren't #1 in the CFP because... reasons. Not to mention the CFP committee has done their classic schtick of leaving a bunch of undeserving SEC teams ranked in the teens despite them having like 3+ losses
November 29th, 2023 at 9:38 AM ^
Beat Iowa
November 29th, 2023 at 9:57 AM ^
By the composite, our best wins are:
- OSU - 3
- Penn St - 9
- Maryland - 40
- UNLV - 43
- Rutgers - 58
- Nebraska - 69
- Minnesota - 72
- Bowling Green - 76
- Purdue - 77
- Michigan State - 82
- Indiana - 98
- East Carolina - 120
November 29th, 2023 at 10:24 AM ^
I like Alabama at 8. Seems they are just far enough down to not get into CoFoPoff.
November 29th, 2023 at 10:26 AM ^
Can we still trust the Massey pre-nup?
November 29th, 2023 at 10:38 AM ^
I am happy to know Massey's website coder is working off a Commodore 64 and that they aren't all gone yet...