LTT responds to Touch The Banner's evaluation
February 24th, 2012 at 5:41 PM ^
I'm blaming Magnus.
February 24th, 2012 at 5:45 PM ^
as will all of us
February 24th, 2012 at 5:49 PM ^
Magnus will have to post a ton of pics of fabulous babes to make up for that...
February 24th, 2012 at 6:41 PM ^
If he decommits because of what I said, then he's bound for failure. Great athletes don't have thin skin.
February 24th, 2012 at 6:48 PM ^
there there Vernon Gholston.
February 24th, 2012 at 6:58 PM ^
You mean Vernon Davis?
February 25th, 2012 at 2:02 AM ^
swing and a miss
February 24th, 2012 at 7:22 PM ^
A BEAST at TE and he plays his heart out.
February 24th, 2012 at 7:06 PM ^
February 24th, 2012 at 7:09 PM ^
I'm not talking about as 16-year-olds. I'm talking about as he goes through college and perhaps to the NFL. These kids take criticism every day - from coaches, teachers, camp counselors, etc. If they can't take criticism, they don't get better.
February 24th, 2012 at 7:42 PM ^
so...you take it upon yourself to guage whether or not they will be great players? Which one is the 16 year old?
February 25th, 2012 at 4:37 AM ^
Although I agree with your point to the extent that this obviously affects players more than we realize, how can you criticize Magnus for guaging players? We are only mad because a player that we covet in our class is offended that Magnus did not have a positive review of his talents. I hope you do not visit Rivals, Scout, 247, or ESPN either as this is obviously a practice you are opposed to.
February 25th, 2012 at 8:40 AM ^
I agree with everything you said, but as fans, we shouldn't be critical of these kids (who are just coming off of thier junior year and obviously far from perfect) just to prove that we have football evaluation skills. Why is it pertenant to look at a kid and say that he won't do this or perform at this certain level, especially after we have watched JK start three years as a walk-on. Its a crap shoot, especially with the O-line. As fans, we should be nothing but supportive and welcoming to these kids, especially since they are giving up other options to be here.
February 24th, 2012 at 7:46 PM ^
Then I'm sure you're fine with the people critisizing you, NOT as a person, but as a influential blogger that's representing Michigan, right? You seem to be fine with 'smartass' responses to 16yo athlets on twitter, cracking jokes at Asians, etc. Some more class and professionalism out of a blogger of a prominent Michigan site would be great. As you said, If they can't take criticism, they don't get better.
By the way, I thought the TTB article on LTT was pretty good.
February 24th, 2012 at 9:31 PM ^
LOL "influential"
February 25th, 2012 at 5:46 AM ^
People can criticize my comments as much as they want. It doesn't mean they're correct with their assessments, just like I'm not 100% certain that Logan Tuley-Tillman won't start his first game as a true freshman next year.
February 24th, 2012 at 7:34 PM ^
You better have a 2nd pair of skin...because the current flesh will belong to Coach Hoke.
February 24th, 2012 at 7:49 PM ^
lol grow up dude.
February 24th, 2012 at 8:11 PM ^
...for being unrepentant. Winners don't apologize.
February 24th, 2012 at 9:47 PM ^
February 25th, 2012 at 4:26 AM ^
By responding so many times, Magnus has done the exact same thing as LTT. Magnus criticizes LTT for not being able to ignore the criticism, yet he can't ignore the criticism. I wonder what he used to do when his glee club got a negative review?
February 25th, 2012 at 5:59 AM ^
Keep things in context.
I said that if Tuley-Tillman decommits because of what I said, then he's too thin-skinned. I absolutely, 100% don't expect him to decommit because of what I said. That would be drastic.
People are criticizing me here, and I'm not doing anything drastic. People have a right to their opinions, including Tuley-Tillman. That doesn't mean they're correct.
February 25th, 2012 at 10:15 PM ^
February 25th, 2012 at 9:30 AM ^
Ever heard of Michael Jordan? Thinnest skin on the planet.
February 24th, 2012 at 5:44 PM ^
February 24th, 2012 at 5:46 PM ^
February 25th, 2012 at 5:55 AM ^
LOL. If you remember, I wasn't that high on Clark coming out of high school. Now that he finished his freshman year, I think he should/will start next season. Why? Because he actually played well. I'll change my position on players if they show it on the field.
I'll change my mind on Floyd if he turns into a quality cornerback. So far I haven't seen it.
February 24th, 2012 at 5:46 PM ^
Suck!
February 24th, 2012 at 5:48 PM ^
Magnus > Hoke/Saban.
Just ask him, I'm sure he would tell you.
February 24th, 2012 at 5:54 PM ^
Do you know that Hoke and Saban disagree with Magnus? Magnus said that LTT is a bit of a project, on a team that's not very good and maybe doesn't have great OL coaching (like most HS teams). He also said that the sky is the limit with LTT and that he could be an elite left tackle. Since we took Magnuson in the last class (along with Braden), it's likely that LTT has the luxury of taking a few years to get to the level he needs to be. It's very possible Hoke, Saban, and every other coach that offered LTT feels the exact same way, and are confident his upside warrants the offer.
Not every accurate scouting reports reads: This prospect is awesome and has no flaws.
February 24th, 2012 at 11:03 PM ^
Heh.
Magnus>Hoke/Saban? Obviously. Look at his point total fergodsakes.
February 24th, 2012 at 11:56 PM ^
February 24th, 2012 at 5:50 PM ^
February 24th, 2012 at 9:24 PM ^
pain-in-the-ass-imst?
February 24th, 2012 at 5:50 PM ^
Truth is, recruiting is impossible to judge. As I recall, the biggest knock TTB had was that LTT wasn't coached as well as he could have been. That's fixable.
All our players are going to face lots of adversity. The ones who rise to the challenge and stay around will be champions. As for me, I couldn't be happier that he committed, and I very much look forward to LTT proving Magnus and any other doubters wrong. But he has to prove it every day--on the field, in the weight room, in class, and looking in the mirror in the morning. He has to prove it--not to Magnus, but to himself and his team. The rest of us, we're just hangers on who really don't matter.
February 24th, 2012 at 10:27 PM ^
February 25th, 2012 at 12:21 AM ^
Everyone matters, but in different contexts. I was speaking about the people to whom LTT has to prove himself. He should be most concerned in being true to himself. He should work hard and act nobly in order to satisfy his own drive and be able to take pride in who he is. Second, he will be a member of a team and owes a duty of effort and care for the team and its coaches. As far as Magnus and others on this site, we'll be rooting for him. If he does right by himself and his team, we'll have no complaints.
February 24th, 2012 at 5:57 PM ^
I think Magnus is great. Every Tom, Dick and Harry is covering recruiting these days, but interesting and qualified opinions on a prospect are much more rare. We all know a lot of these kids won't pan out. Magnus has the balls to try to predict which ones.
Hopefully kids can find better things to motivate them than some random dudes on the internet.
February 24th, 2012 at 5:59 PM ^
http://touchthebanner.blogspot.com/2012/02/logan-tuley-tillman-wolverine.html
Basically it says that his technique needs to be worked on but that athletically the sky is the limit. I don't see anything wrong with that.
February 24th, 2012 at 8:41 PM ^
I think it might have something to do with tone - Magnus doesn't pull any punches and he doesn't hesitate to say exactly what he thinks.
To people who don't know him very well (myself included), I can see how he could come off as a bit of a dick. To people who do, however...he can come off as a bit of a dick.
February 25th, 2012 at 8:30 AM ^
February 24th, 2012 at 5:58 PM ^
this is apparently what is going to happen as fans become 'recruiting gurus' and recruits become integrated more to the recruiting process from both the recruit and fans side of things. Free information is great, but don't piss off our recruits.
February 24th, 2012 at 6:15 PM ^
Magnus doesn't consider himself a 'recruiting guru'. He is just giving analysis based on his experience as a coach.
February 24th, 2012 at 7:04 PM ^
February 24th, 2012 at 7:07 PM ^
I'm sorry. I'll send him a dozen roses to apologize. How dare I say anything mildly negative about a recruit! I should only give compliments because it's 100% certain that EVERY MICHIGAN RECRUIT WILL BE AWESOME!!!!!!!
February 24th, 2012 at 7:27 PM ^
February 24th, 2012 at 9:58 PM ^
I thought his review was reasonable, but I am also glad that LTT disagrees with it. It shows that LTT cares enough to take exception. There probably aren't five posters here with his level of knowledge when it comes to football, though, and he certainly has the right to his opinion.
All you can really demand out of someone on a blog is to know what they are writing about, be honest, and have integrity. I really don't see where any of those didn't happen here. I thought it was well-conceived, and the overall tone was that he has the potential to develop well with good coaching.
February 25th, 2012 at 6:07 AM ^
I don't know that I'm "glad" LTT disagrees with it, but I'm certainly glad he has the competitive spirit to try to prove me (and anyone who doubts him) wrong. As I said in my Tweet back to him, I'm a Michigan fan and I certainly hope he proves me wrong - that means success for my favorite team.
That being said, "proving me wrong" basically means he'll be a first day starter - because I said it would take him a couple years to learn technique and then the sky's the limit. So unless he starts and performs well at Michigan as a freshman or sophomore, then he'll basically be right where I predicted. And since it normally takes linemen two or three years of college to play in the first place, then the odds are that he won't prove me wrong.
February 25th, 2012 at 2:20 AM ^
Nooooooooooo. I'm not courting shit. If you're courting shit you're probably committing a violation so fucking stop if you are. Magnus is a blogger. He also is not courting recruits. He is writing to an audience of Michigan fans who value his honest opinions. He doesn't owe LTT or his audience anything besides his honest view.
February 25th, 2012 at 2:38 AM ^