The Lions Hire....JT Barrett?
Mates,
Came across this one, just in: The Lions hired JT Barrett to be an offensive assistant. Not sure what he's going to help with given he only ran versions of RPO and never played a down in the NFL. As a Lions fan I wish him well. As a Michigan fan you smile and say "Detroit, the place where careers go to die"
Link to article:https://www.prideofdetroit.com/2022/7/23/23275446/detroit-lions-hire-jt-barrett-offensive-assistant-coach-ohio-state
One thing I hadn't kept track of but is interesting, Campbell has a boatload of former NFL types as his coaches: Barrett joins a Lions coaching staff full of former NFL players, including Campbell, Glenn, Duce Staley, Mark Brunell, Hank Fraley, Antwaan Randle El, Todd Wash, and Kelvin Sheppard.
It's the Lions, faking people out for 60+ years but hey, some year they might actually be good. I will say that they finished fairly well last year and even when they were getting beaten they all seemed to play hard, no give up or loafing. A good sign.
Have a great Saturday. It's summer time and the warm days don't last.
XM
I'm still mad about the shortest overtime in NFL history (Lions v Bears) ruining my Thanksgiving. So...whatever...Lions...
LOL I was like 8 years old when that happened and I remember it vividly.
I was in the kitchen getting a beer and a snack to have during the overtime. I should have known.
I was at the game with my dad and brother. Ride home from the Silverdome was a bummer...but dinner was great.
Was that the game where one of the Zebra’s (allegedly) said to the kick returner something to the effect of “see you in 10 seconds in the end zone”?
The very first time we were allowed to watch football (or anything on TV) at Grandma's house on Thanksgiving was that day and that game. Ugh.
If you give a shit about the Lions you deserve whatever pain you receive. Seriously, my wife is a Steelers/PSU from PA fan and we made a deal that our kids would be Michigan fans and Steelers fans. I consider it a win that my kids are Michigan fans and Steelers fans.if I can save my kids from ever following the Lions I’m happy, the Lions are a fucking graveyard of depression
That one RPO where he kept it, he was short.
Hope Lions are decent this year.
I am more upset about the all of the game changing corrupt calls made that day.
It was so beyond lop sided I have never seen a screw job like that and frankly those officials should have been investigated.
We win by three scores with unbiased officiating.
So you believe because he could only run rpo that means he doesn’t know football? Weird flex but okay
not a 'flex' at all, just an observation that he would be unfamiliar with any type of pro-style offense and a contributing factor to him not playing a down in the pros.
I guess Bill belichick tight end days at wesleyan university taught him to be the best defensive mind the nfl has ever seen
you having a tough day? maybe go outside and run off some of that angst that's got you fired up over nothing.
Few thought much of Belichick until he won a few Super Bowls. Let’s revisit when Barrett does the same.
Few thought he was great until he was great? Insider analysis.
What? You must have forgot the Patriots traded their 1st, 4th, and 7th for bill to get him from the jets
Belichick took over a 3-13 Browns team in 1991 rebuilt it into an 11-5 team in 1994. Then the 1995 season goes to hell capped off by Art Modell announcing the team was moving to Baltimore in the middle of the season. Belichick had some high quality assistants during his time in Cleveland:
Nick Saban
Jim Bates
Kirk Ferentz
Woody Widenhofer
Pat Hill
Al Groh
And he hired as the Director of Pro Personnel the man who would go on to be the most underrated NFL GM of our era...Ozzie Newsome.
Everyone in the NFL knew Belichick was a great coach. The question was whether he would alienate everyone around him. But I guess if you have the GOAT at QB it doesn't matter.
i read XMs post about 15 times and can’t find where he said anything like this
seems like you read his post, came to a conclusion regarding what he “really meant” based on your interpretation. then made an argument against what you made up in your head about what he “really meant”
seems reading words as they are written without injecting your own bias into those words is getting more and more rare
He said he wouldn't know because he ran a different system when he was a QB. Doesn't seem unreasonable to think Barrett has studied/learned other systems regardless of what he ran when he was at Ohio State. Not an unreasonable response to one of the most argumentative and self-important posters on this board.
He said he wouldn't know because he ran a different system when he was a QB.
he literally didn’t type that at all. you just proved my point
Not an unreasonable response to one of the most argumentative and self-important posters on this board.
your last sentence proves your bias towards XM. easier to find negativity in a benign post when that’s your opinion.
quite literally all he said was he’s not sure how that’ll help, which is a personal opinion, not a statement, and is as just as logical of an assumption as your view. whatever else you “think” he meant or typed is 100% on you and your bias
Idk who XM is nor do I care, I personal thought it was weird thing to say. Playing in the nfl has zero correlation with being a good coach. secondly rpo isn’t all that JT Barrett did. Also hes an offensive analyst!!
besides what doc mentioned, you know, about all the stuff i didn't actually say, i do have a question. can you share with us your knowledge base of football, including your playing background and your coaching background?
what XM said:
“Not sure what he's going to help with given he only ran versions of RPO and never played a down in the NFL”
What we are back characterized XM as saying:
“So you believe because he could only run rpo that means he doesn’t know football?”
They don’t seem as different to me as you seem to want to make them out to be. Obviously not the same words, but is the sentiment really that different?
BDC, my comment suggests unfamiliarity with a particular system, which can be a problem. how to play it and how to teach it requires detailed knowledge, especially as you get to the infinite nuances. as a player and now a coach i have seen this, and even the casual fan can pick up on that. the other comment that is attributed to me is, for lack of a better term, an extreme comment as if the guy had never played football before. you are very smart. you can see the difference.
Are you familiar with the rhetorical device hyperbole? As others have pointed out, there are any number of coaches who played one position and then went on to coach another position, to become coordinators on the other side of the ball or to become head coaches. What else is one to infer from your comment that because he only ran RPO and never played in the NFL other than that he doesn’t know enough about football to be able to be competent to coach at a high level? What is we are back’s response but hyperbole meant to suggest that maybe Barrett has a bit more to bring to the table than you are giving him credit for?
come on. now you're backing away from the severity of the comment and saying its just hyperbole, but pretending that the mere implication of my comment was some huge pronouncement. you can have it one way or the other, but not both. i actually like JT for what i know of him - a good leader and a high character guy. what i also know of him is that he's never run a pro-style offense, and yes, that takes time to master just like if he was to be dumped into a winged-T, or a wishbone, etc. do i think he might help and be an okay hire? yeah, i actually do. but without that experience he is starting behind the line of scrimmage, so to speak.
seriously, i respect your intellect but you do yourself no favors when you bend over backwards to make trouble when none was intended or had, simply to take a shot at me. you lose much credibility.
You would assume that at the HIGHEST POSSIBLE LEVEL OF FOOTBALL that a coach of ANY level (even analyst), would have a HINT of experience in a given discipline.
He's never been a coach ANYWHERE, and a PROFESSIONAL team brings him in?
Same Old Lions
And given that he has NO experience, one must wonder (as XM did) WHY OH WHY did the Lions do it?
Methinks this is why:
This past March, the NFL unveiled a new policy requiring teams to hire a minority coach as an offensive assistant. Created by the league's diversity advisory committee, the goal of this initiative is to improve the league's diversity hiring practices.
(Source: https://www.foxsports.com/stories/nfl/ohio-state-qb-j-t-barrett-joins-detroit-lions-coaching-staff)
I've long been in the mindset that Barrett is going to be a great coach. Hear me out.
He does not have an overly strong or accurate arm. But he made great decisions all the time. He was supposed to be a backup as a freshman but got thrust into the starting role right as the season began. Lost his first big game to Virginia Tech, then rallied his team to win out.
Then got hurt in the game. Had to watch from the sideline as his backup led the team to the national title. Then had to be a backup as Cardale Jones received all kinds of national acclaim as a sure thing future NFL star (lol). Then Barrett beat Jones and reclaimed the starting job, all with class.
To me, regardless of uniform, that says Barrett showed maturity far beyond his years. And making great decisions all the time as a player could translate as a coach pretty easily. So yeah, I'm pretty happy he's getting his coaching career started. He's got a bright future ahead.
FWIW, last season Joe Burrow was asked something along the lines of which former teammate has made the greatest impact on him as a player.
Burrow answered J.T. Barrett because the latter always modeled and taught Burrow the poise, leadership and mental fortitude needed out of the quarterback position.
Yeah…it’s not like they are making him OC. He was clearly a cerebral player. Not sure how Michigan fans can puff their chest out about Nick Sheridan being a coach but crap on a guy like Barrett.
Agree, OSU puts out some high quality individuals like Michigan does. It's not like daily reading the Lansing State Journal to find out what ex-athlete was just indicted.
Uh, because Sheridan has actually put the work and time into being a coach?
And not a token hire of someone with zero coaching experience? At the HIGHEST level of football?
You're comparing apples and oranges dude.
Fair. But he was short.
Wish I could thumbs up 100 times ...
I’m not going to lie I spent 3 minutes believing my brain trickery that this was Michael Barrett, and I was like; “well of course!”
JT was short.
If you can look at this photo and not recognize an obvious first down, then I don't even know what to say.
You're flexing over a picture that proves nothing.
a picture that proves nothing
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You should probably ask BuckeyeJonRoss for some pointers on "how to post on a rival message board" ..just sayin'
He was hired to be a tackling dummy for Hutchinson. Going to be practicing that 4th down run a lot. Aiden will make sure he’s short every time.
Since the Lions always come up short, they hired someone who came up short but still "won."
Like many things, it won't translate from OSU to the pros.
He is going to be in charge of making sure they get the right spot on fourth down conversions.
Although I loathe Ohio State football, JT is a dude I’m rooting for. When he blew up, I leased him his apartment way back when. Still humble through my talks with him. I walked an apartment, and did the whole leasing process with him. We’re doing the paperwork and my boss comes up to inform him I was a huge UM fan. We laughed and gave each other shit, but I was playing coy as he deals with those stupid questions day in and day out for being a big figure down here. We finally talk about football and (obviously) knows his stuff, but the way he conducted himself was almost coach like. Very humble dude and hope it works out for him.
Good God she is breath taking
Lots of surgery. Look at her younger photos.
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In HOLLYWOOD!?
I don't believe it.
In HOLLYWOOD!?! I am shocked!