Kaleb brown commits to OSU
Im so tired of losing recruits that were a Michigan lean to OSU
We just need to pay more. Fuck it back the trucks up to these kids houses with internships that pay them $500k for 3 months remote work.
Can we stop with these lazy, petulant, "we should pay more" takes? Given recent history, is it really so difficult to believe a young athlete simply sees OSU as a better opportunity?
Agree, it got old awhile back. Jealousy is my first thought every time I see the "pay for players" crap. Maybe, just maybe, a few programs are doing things better than the others
Travel around the CF boards, and you'll see the same in the ACC with Clemson, and the SEC really hammers Alabama hard and recently the Big 12 has started pointing fingers at Oklahoma. It's just stale old shit
The boy in that photo must be 30 years old by now.
And he still hates.....
I'm still hoping that Ryan Day is completely overrated, and that it even out at some point. I'm hoping, but not hopeful...
I am actually curious, has Michigan won an actual recruiting battle with Ohio over the last 5 years.
Blake Corum, a 5-foot-8, 193-pounder, announced his commitment to Michigan over Ohio State on Thursday afternoon.
“It just felt like home,” Corum said. “I have really good relationships with them and they really recruited me the hardest through the whole process.”
And that it came down to Ohio State and Michigan, and the rivalry they have, was not lost on Corum.
“It is a wonderful feeling knowing each school really wants you,” Corum said. “They want you to play for them. I started getting recruited in the eighth grade and I was taking it all in, but I just felt like Michigan was home.”
Ehh that last paragraph kinda gives away. He wasn’t wanted by OSU
So you just want to be argumentative? Because if you read any of those sentences in that paragraph you know damn well that isn't even remotely what he said.
Wow came here to post a defense for this guy but turns out he wasnt kidding.
Actually OSU was pushing HARD late for Corum - even after he committed to M.
You don't have to embellish anything - the truth is bad enough as-is.
As for Brown -- It seemed for at least 6 months that OSU was his #1 school. The best case for M was that OSU might not have had room for him -- #63 overall player - because they had kids they liked better. Apparently that shifted about a month back - which is when all the CBs for OSU started coming. (FWIW the kid I thought OSU liked better - Kojo Antwi, #90 ovr - is now listed at 60% CB to UGA -- OSU also has the #35 overall and 146 overall players as WR commits)
User name does not fit.
Legit is definitely not the word I would choose to describe your question.
Yes it was, I am not being sarcastic and was actually curious. No clue why people are downvoting a question
Donovan Peoples-Jones
Mazi Smith?
Mike Onwenu?
Definitely not a lot of success recruiting vs Osu. Apparently beating your arch rival only 1 time in 15 years has a negative impact on recruiting.
Rob Lytle?
John Kolesar?
Gerald Ford?
Tom Harmon?
Ojibwa?
George Armstrong Custer?
DPJ was Urban's most hated miss in recruiting. He still thinks he would have been a sure fire first rounder if he went to OSU.
He's probably right unfortunately
It's ok. Harbs is looking at everything.
Make him humble in front of 104,944 at the Shoe.
Keep recruiting him and maybe we’ll get him when he transfers. That’s not a slam on the kid, but the game is played with just one ball and it’s going to be hard to keep 10 WR’s happy. - They’ve landed nine top 100 wide receivers in the last three classes (‘20, ‘21, & ‘22). Some of those guys will transfer.
Yep, already happened with Jameson Williams transferring to Alabama and that kid is considered a top 15 to 20 WR in the country. He was 6th on OSU's depth chart. My question: how many GD receivers do they need and don't these kids see who's ahead of them ? It's getting insane with OSU's QBs and WRs.
Top kids want to compete and get coached by the best and they don’t get much better than Day, Hartline and Larry Johnson for that matter (yes Day has a huge hand in the QB coaching). They know that they can play for one or two years and get drafted highly since the NFL can spot talent even in a small sample size.
Is Day a great QB coach? OSU has had some talented guys, but who are the QBs that he has made way better and are now in the NFL? The best QB to come out of thier system had to leave and go get great coaching at LSU to become a great QB.
I know they have had Haskins get drafted high, but he is an embarassment in the league. I don't see the great QB coaching you are talking about.
Fields may turn out to be awesome, but he would be the first, and honestly I think he is so talented he could have gone anywhere and would have been drafted in the first round.
Day is a successful college coach, but not the QB coach you think he is.
Oh boy this is actually a tired argument I have to have with a lot of people. Day had one season with Barrett, two with Haskins and two with Fields. JT did great his last year, Haskins rewrote the Big Ten record books and came in to close you guys out when JT got hurt and then Fields was amazing the past two years. We will truly see how good he is once he has a QB who has three years with him. Day has an NFL pedigree you can look up that kids want to play for. You can’t say “oh OSU QBs never make it in the NFL” when even OSU fans knew JT wouldn’t make it and Haskins had a piss poor work ethic once he got to that trash franchise in Washington that didn’t want him last year. And yes, Fields would go in the first round if he went anywhere. But that’s why the #2 QB in his recruiting class wanted to go to OSU after he didn’t get a fair shake at UGA. He wanted get taught by the best. So to answer your question yes, he is a great QB coach or else the #1 QB in the 2022 class wouldn’t have ever committed to play for him. He can go anywhere he wants to but he chose Columbus for some reason.
I'm not saying he is or isn't a great QB coach, but pretending like getting a top recruit to play there is because of his coaching is a curious argument to make.
Meyer never had any good QB coaching yet consistently got top talent. Zach Smith was a hot tire fire of a human and coach and still got top talent. It's almost as if there's something else that gets kids to commit there.
For some reason? lol
A little bit of hyperbole, a little bit of chest pounding and a little bit of homerism mixed in with some facts.
Haskins started 9 games. The Washington coaching staff didn't want anything to do with him. It was Dan Snyder who drafted him. He didn't have a bad work ethic he had no work ethic. He constantly showed up late, refused to learn the playbook, partied maskless in lock-down after a loss. He was so bad Ron Rivera cut him the week before a playoff game and replaced him with an XFL backup.
To say Fields went to OSU to be coached by the best is just silly. How do you know what was in his mind? It's much more likely he went to the best situation. OSU had a great Oline, great receivers and good backs and they're the class of the division.
Fields was groomed since early high-school. He had textbook mechanics long before OSU. He wasn't much of a project.
The knock on him was that he couldn't make a second and third read. That was the same knock in the draft. So what did Day do?
I'm not saying Day sucks, but you have the best players, a good cast of surrounding coaches and play in a weaker conference that make his job a lot easier.
I'd say Lincoln Riley is the best QB coach in CFB.
Can’t really stand up for Dwayne, but all I can say is he did ok for his first staff but once Rivera came in, it was pretty obvious he wanted nothing to do with Dwayne. As for Fields, he has always worked with Haskins’ private QB coach and they both raves about him after Dwayne rewrote the record books so Day definitely had something to do with Fields coming here. He even said in interviews that this was the place that was going to get him to the NFL. That was his goal and he achieved it. And there’s plenty of video evidence that shows JF looking past his first read. That’s another tired argument people are clinging to because on armchair QB said it. I’m just relaying what I know. Take it as you will.
Sorry but Jay Gruden wanted less to do with Haskins than Rivera. Dwayne interviewed really badly and and it was Dan Snyder the owner forced Washington to take him. Even Urb said Haskins wasn't mature enough for the NFL.
The attitude and crap spanned both coaches. He consistently showed up late, never bothered to learn the playbook and had a cancerous self-entitled attitude no matter who the coach was.
I'm not saying Fieldss doesn't look past the forst read he didn't really have to at OSU, I'm saying that was the criticism before he got there and Day did nothing to dispel it.
Look at Lincoln Riley, Baker Mayfield first overall and successfully starting, Kylar Murray 1st overall and successfully starting, Jalen Hurts 2nd round pick and successfully starting. And Day with zero starting QB's in the NFL is the best QB coach? You'll have to explain those metrics.
I'm not saying Day had nothing to do with Fields, I'm saying the QB didn't do there because Day is the QB whisperer. If Fields wanted to get into the NFL and chose OSU to get there it's more likely because of the team and situation than how Day was going to develop him.
Yeah Washington is to blame for Haskins. Come see me in 2 years when he isn't in the league anymore
You basically called Day the best QB coach, and all I am saying is the jury is still out on this dude. He has had college success, but this claim working with him fast tracks you to the NFL and NFL success is unproven bullshit.
The best thing you said is that he is about to prove if he is a good QB coach or not. We will see.
They know that they can play for one or two years and get drafted highly since the NFL can spot talent even in a small sample size.
Well the NFL missed the boat on Cardale Jones then....lol.
Go Blue!!
Did they ever lol I was a JT guy all the way and thought he should’ve been the guy at the beginning of the season after our natty. But yeah, Cardale was a whole different situation. Our WRs can have a whole breakout season and not just a three game run in the playoff and get drafted was all I was getting at.
They are fat at RB as well and are still recruiting the position.
What part of Ohio St players don’t transfer to Michigan don’t you get?
Yep, I can verify that living in Delaware Ohio. Well, I guess they could try and transfer if they want to take the chance of the crazies around here going bat shit crazy on their family and house
I’m also in the Delaware area...county anyway. There used to be a time when my Michigan flag would be stolen, burned, or vandalized at least a couple of times each fall. We used to get egged and TP’d. My neighbor would ask me if it’s worth it and I would say you Buckeyes are just jealous that you’re not a Wolverine. - It doesn’t happen anymore. I think I’ve had the same flag since 2007 (I think the last time it was stolen was after The Game in 2006). - I can’t wait for the day we kick their ass and I spend the whole night worrying that some cooler pooper will steal my flag again.
Way to go, DHughes. +1 to you, sir.
How do you think we cooler poopers wipe our anus? ...w/ M flags!
Glad you wipe your ass. By the smell down there in Ohio I assumed you didn’t wipe at all.
Just curious, how does you living in Delaware Ohio let you verify that OSU players don't transfer to Michigan? I'm not trying to stir something up, I'm legitimately curious.
Just trying to point out that I live in the middle of all this crap and see first hand how everybody and everything revolves around the idea that anything associated with Michigan is evil. Hell, it goes on just as strong during the off season.
I guess it would be possible for a top-notch player to transfer from OSU to Michigan but I'd be shocked. It only takes a short period of time for the brainwashing to take effect
I also live in the middle of all this crap, but to me it's not crap because I'm a OSU fan haha. If you live in Delaware, I'm not too far off from you. The OSU hatred for you guys comes from being our #1 rival, and the series lead you still have. I don't think it's brainwashing that happens to create a hatred for UM, I call it buy in. When you walk into the WHAC as a freshman, you are told that your goals are to win the conference, beat the rival, and compete for a NC. The kids buy in, they know the most important regular season game they will ever play in is against you guys. So yeah, there is going to be a bit of hatred built in.
OSU fans want to win every single year. They want to take over the series lead (because yeah, it's still brought up to us by Michigan fans even after the last 20 year run and the series has been in OSU's favor since basically anyone on here has been alive). But OSU fans also want you guys to get your shit together up there so the games are higher stakes. People I know used to get jacked for the OSU/UM game every year because there were things riding on it. These are people that are not fans of either team.
Right now I'd have to offer those people free drinks to watch the game with me.
Snagging the guys who couldn't hack it at OSU will solve all of the problems.