Juwan Comments on NIL
August 11th, 2022 at 2:51 PM ^
A regent spoke up and now Juwan. This is good for Michigan Athletics. Something got to change. With Santa coming on board in October, hoping for a positive change in the fall.
August 11th, 2022 at 3:26 PM ^
With Santa coming on board in October
I have noticed that since Santa Ono was announced as the new president, both Juwan now and Harbaugh have been more forward about Michigan embracing NIL in the future and/or not doing enough now.
Seems like a good sign that maybe the school is shifting their attitudes towards staying competitive
August 11th, 2022 at 3:29 PM ^
So another reason why schlissel was a flaming bung-hole. Good riddance!
August 11th, 2022 at 7:13 PM ^
Fuck Schlissel and his delusional...
err, never mind.
But hindsight being 20/20, I'm curious why the guy even came here in the first place? Brown is highly ranked, an Ivy, etc:
https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/compare?xwalk_id=217156&xwalk_id=170976
...and whether one is an academic high brow or not, you have to be a fucking moron that despite Michiagn's bona fides, to not accept that athletics are a HUGE part of the Michigan experience.
But Schlissel not only wanted none of that but had a public disdain for it.
Then don't accept the job. Stay in your Ivy tower then. Predator.
August 11th, 2022 at 11:02 PM ^
Could he tempt you with a knish?
August 11th, 2022 at 3:30 PM ^
I think the stronger correlation than Santa is MSU having recent success on the hardwood recruiting trail and the multi-month observation of our FB recruiting class failing to profit off its 2021 on-field success. If our NIL game was stronger, both recruiting classes may have been close to completed.
August 11th, 2022 at 2:52 PM ^
Wait, the school with a fanbase that STILL puts $ in OSU, SEC, etc. is behind on NIL?
August 11th, 2022 at 4:30 PM ^
Well, now that’s it’s, ya know, legal, I hope recruits start spelling Michigan like this.
$$$$$$$$
August 11th, 2022 at 2:52 PM ^
I would very much like to know the group of people at UM who don't think the current NIL approach is a problem. Seems like a small, but very powerful group of people.
August 11th, 2022 at 2:54 PM ^
What's Lloyd up to? Seems like the type of thing he'd poo-poo and some other old schoolers would rally behind it.
August 11th, 2022 at 3:18 PM ^
You can start with @Jwangles2. Everything is fine, nothing to see here.
August 11th, 2022 at 3:57 PM ^
Those who don't have an issue with UM's approach:
- NCAA
- State of Michigan
In seriousness, I don't know whether to have a problem with it or not, because I don't know what it is. I also don't know what fans are clamoring for every time they clamor. As others have noted, there are collectives. As many have said before, there's nothing stopping a booster from paying a recruit or a player.
What exactly are we talking about? Is it the UM AD actively organizing a group of boosters into a centralized, university-sponsored collective fund that directs different amounts to different players? Then we can stop having that discussion, because that's not going to happen.
August 12th, 2022 at 1:16 AM ^
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August 11th, 2022 at 5:23 PM ^
It's basically just Warde Manuel. Shout out our Ad
August 11th, 2022 at 5:46 PM ^
Santa should let Warde be Al Avila's new fishing partner.
August 11th, 2022 at 2:53 PM ^
Juwan drops mic, walks away.
Awesome.
August 11th, 2022 at 7:16 PM ^
I hope Juwan never blows another gasket publicly. He's good for Michigan and I'm proud of what he does otherwise. We need Juwan around for a long time (and not to get himself fired).
August 11th, 2022 at 2:57 PM ^
This is one thing I really, really like about Juwan Howard. Sometimes his in-game coaching and substitution patterns leave something to be desired, and he should not slap/claw coaches from other teams in the face regardless of circumstances.
But he tells the truth, he answers questions with actual (gasp) answers. That is commendable.
August 11th, 2022 at 3:00 PM ^
Disagree, everyone associated with Wisconsin basketball should be slapped. His only fault was not getting more of them.
August 11th, 2022 at 3:35 PM ^
On the record, Juwan was in the wrong for slapping a Badger assistant coach and was fortunate to only get a 5-game suspenction.
Off the record.....
August 11th, 2022 at 4:08 PM ^
On the record, he should have one game taken off for each Wisconsin person he got, two if it was Brad Davison.
August 11th, 2022 at 9:28 PM ^
It still blows my mind how Wisconsin got no blame in the court of public opinion about that innocent. Then again, I don't think many fans took the time to actually watch what happened
August 11th, 2022 at 3:04 PM ^
Two swipes at Juwan while appreciating his outspoken quality? Hmmm..... Don't think that was necessary. Anyway, glad he spoke up.
August 11th, 2022 at 3:09 PM ^
They weren't swipes. They weren't even claws.
August 11th, 2022 at 3:15 PM ^
Pity that "glblu330" isn't handling the substitution patterns; he's clearly more discerning.
August 11th, 2022 at 3:22 PM ^
A bit too sensitive here. I was saying that he isn't perfect but this is one quality I really like. You have to really be in a mood to be offended if this offended you.
August 11th, 2022 at 3:35 PM ^
what do you think people come to the internet for?
August 11th, 2022 at 3:41 PM ^
Sorry. Didn't mean to pick on you. I wasn't offended. Just didn't want this thread to derail into something else than about NIL. All good.
August 11th, 2022 at 3:04 PM ^
Seems like Warde is on shaky ground between Pearson and botched NIL.
August 11th, 2022 at 4:02 PM ^
I doubt there’s anything shaky that he’s standing on. He’s a good administrator that has largely kept the AD out of trouble, and has quickly settled the outburst there have been (Harbaugh 2016, Juwan, etc). He doesn’t command a room enough to cause any real discomfort to those in charge. And he mostly keeps his mouth shut and manages his dept pretty well. This one issue, where he apparently stated his case and then marched like a good boy, won’t cause him any grief with the Regents or MSC.
August 11th, 2022 at 3:09 PM ^
I'm glad Juwan never put his foot in his mouth with any "transformational not transactional" type statements.
August 11th, 2022 at 3:52 PM ^
OMG, who said that???
August 11th, 2022 at 4:21 PM ^
Harbaugh has a right to change his mind and hope he changes his perspective without being stubborn about what he originally said. No shame in changing perspective as one learn's more. Learn is the keyword.
August 11th, 2022 at 7:39 PM ^
I don't think he changed his mind. I think he always wanted NIL, but he was confirming rather than fighting the decision makers. His tone changed as soon as management changed. I could be wrong.
August 11th, 2022 at 3:11 PM ^
I love how he throws "we" in there at the end, like Juwan is somehow supposed to improve NIL that much by himself. I guess Warde is gonna be hearing about this since the regent news last week and Santa coming to town. I hope it jumpstarts some more discussions about a collective and other ways to improve NIL. We are woefully behind. I think there will be pullback at other schools but we still need to be able to meet that "standard."
August 11th, 2022 at 3:11 PM ^
Perfect timing for these comments about NIL to come rolling out. The new guy starts in a few months.
August 11th, 2022 at 3:14 PM ^
Someone should probably let him know that Michigan has two NIL collectives. Clearly between this and the Dickinson comments the feelings from the basketball program to the limits they have
August 11th, 2022 at 3:41 PM ^
Dickinson's issues seemed to be more to do with UM not letting him use the block M and other Michigan-related marks without some oversight. And I said at the time and will say again that Dickinson can and should make money off his likeness but he shouldn't expect UM to let him use their trademarks without some consultation; I'm sure he'd be pissed if UM sold his likeness without consulting him about it.
August 11th, 2022 at 3:54 PM ^
This is a University stall tactic. If they wanted to let the student athletes use the Block M, they can EASILY setup an easy process / procedures. Wait for it, if the AD setup a department to actually HELP with NIL, this would be a no-brainer, but we have not. This is not fucking neurosurgery people. Geez.
August 11th, 2022 at 7:25 PM ^
If they wanted to let the student athletes use the Block M, they can EASILY setup an easy process / procedures.
Out of curiosity, do you know how many of the schools that have embraced NIL fully allow cross pollination of university and personal branding?
I know for example, UGA does not allow blanket use of IP under NIL... there has to be an additional rights agreement (ostensibly to make sure the logo is represented properly).
Ditto for USC.
But other than that, I haven't been digging into the legalese much more -- only when those states' laws came out.
My guess is for TAMU, kids can do whatever the fuck they want.
August 11th, 2022 at 3:40 PM ^
Michigan has at least two collectives and seems to be generating decent returns for players on the roster. I assume there's the pay-for-play NIL deals that UM seemingly won't engage in and that seems to be the bigger issue here.
August 11th, 2022 at 7:29 PM ^
I assume there's the pay-for-play NIL deals that UM seemingly won't engage in
Isn't the sticking point vis-a-vis SEC that Michigan won't essentially pay prospects? M wants a student-athlete on campus first?
August 11th, 2022 at 3:59 PM ^
Juwan must be one of the richest coaches in college, can he just slide them some cash?
August 11th, 2022 at 4:06 PM ^
If we can't have a proper NIL program on par with peers, why should we as fans care about conference expansion, television network deals, and UM sports in general? Where is all that money going?
When the game is stacked against you, it's not fun as a fan to watch or support. I'd rather support the NFL because at least there is parity.
August 11th, 2022 at 4:14 PM ^
Thank God we finally got a new NIL thread.... I as missing them, since the 2, 3, 4 a-days stopped happening.
August 11th, 2022 at 4:55 PM ^
i love Juwan
August 11th, 2022 at 9:25 PM ^
I don't think these comments are that surprising or scathing. Not much new or unexpected
August 11th, 2022 at 9:29 PM ^
What did the five fingers say to the face?