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Jim Delany throws Tressel under the bus

Et tu Mr. B1G?

"If we had known, myself, [Ohio State athletic director] Gene [Smith] and the NCAA all would have handled it a little bit differently," Delany said before departing BCS meetings Thursday.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=6444453

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April 28th, 2011 at 6:19 PM | eeh (Score:4 Normal)
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That doesn't say much. They all have said we would have handled it a bit differently. Personally, I'm happy as hell that Tressel kept his mouth shut. Now he can get what he deserves.

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April 28th, 2011 at 6:20 PM | And by a little bit (Score:4 Funny)
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And by a little bit differently he means six game suspension rather than five...

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April 28th, 2011 at 8:55 PM | Conference Games (Score:1 Normal)
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How about 5 (or 6 or infinity) conference games?

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April 28th, 2011 at 6:21 PM | Sexual harassment too (Score:5 Funny)
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April 28th, 2011 at 7:22 PM | That's not sexual harassment. (Score:5 Funny)
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That's not sexual harassment.  He is just looking for Pryor's pockets so that he can stuff some $100 bills in them.

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April 28th, 2011 at 7:37 PM | Damm you! (Score:4 Insightful)
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Damm you!  Back to the friggin dictionary...

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April 28th, 2011 at 8:43 PM | yes I 100% agree.  I've been (Score:4 Insightful)
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yes I 100% agree.  I've been thinking that every single time I see it.  I don't know about all this prosac, but it definitely dampens the effect.

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April 28th, 2011 at 9:37 PM | Takes away from the joke (Score:2 Insightful)
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April 28th, 2011 at 9:00 PM | Tressel to Pryor: "Is this (Score:2 Normal)
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Tressel to Pryor: "Is this where you got your cool new tat?"

"Anyone who isn't confused, really doesn't understand the situation." - Edward R. Murrow

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April 29th, 2011 at 8:42 AM | Believe this shows that (Score:4 Normal)
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Believe this shows that Pryor's penalty has been reduced from a 5-game suspension to a light, in-game spanking

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April 28th, 2011 at 6:21 PM | Of course they would (Score:3 Insightful)
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But at the time, who ever thought that email would come to light?

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April 28th, 2011 at 6:41 PM | Certainly not Tressel... (Score:3 Normal)
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Certainly not Tressel...

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April 28th, 2011 at 6:23 PM | This is butter on the bread (Score:3 Insightful)
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This is butter on the bread though. You know the writing is on the wall when every one scrambles to cover themselves. I think if you listen very closely you'll hear the silent sound of no one of importance rushing to defend Iron Jimmy. Even the NCAA isn't going to let someone the entire world think's is guilty through their fingers. They understand how that will look. Bye bye, Jimmy. I wish I could say I'll treasure the memories, but really only these last few are worth recalling.

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April 28th, 2011 at 6:27 PM | I will take it one step further ... (Score:3 Insightful)
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No way Delany would have included Gene Smith and NCAA officials in the scope of his answer unless he has spoken to them and knows this is pretty much how they feel. The NCAA is pissed!

"I didn't do it. Nobody saw me do it. You can't prove anything."  B. Simpson

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April 29th, 2011 at 9:20 AM | NCAA should be pissed (Score:1 Normal)
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and the minimum punishment was set by the way they handled Dez Bryant who lied to them.  He missed a whole season and he didn't knowingly play any ineligible players.

The problem with Delaney is the Big Ten supposedly investigated loaner car gate and found nothing wrong with Pryor being given a Tahoe on loan to drive out of state for the weekend despite no source of income to be able to afford said Tahoe.  For that matter why he has three tickets all in loaner cars.  Did the Big Ten find a case where this was done for another OSU student that wasn't an athlete?  If not it is an impermissible benefit.  The Big Ten is partly reponsible for Tressel thinking he could get away with this.

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April 29th, 2011 at 12:05 PM | I can't imagine that the (Score:1)
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I can't imagine that the players were not asked if ayone on the Ohio State payroll knew of their dealings with Mr. Rife. If this is the case, and they lied, they should be done for the year according to precedent.

Also, wasn't Dez Bryant also banned from participating in any team functions..i.e. practices, workouts, etc.?

Also, doesn't the NCAA reserve the right to ammend the penalties if they discover new information? And if this is the case, couldn't the NCAA then declare that the students should not have been eligible for the bowl game and force Ohio State to vacate the win?

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April 28th, 2011 at 6:25 PM | I want him to hang on through this year at least. (Score:1)
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Let our team beat their butt and get the final push over the edge.

Who is Jon Falk?
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April 28th, 2011 at 6:27 PM | Pryor..... (Score:1 Normal)
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Maybe we are better off that RR did not land him after all......Hindsight is 20/20!

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April 28th, 2011 at 6:33 PM | Agreed. (Score:2 Insightful)
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I don't think I'm alone here but frankly I was actually a little relieved when he didn't.  If I'm remembering correctly, during the recruiting process some of the Sarniak stuff and a few other worrisome things came to light.  Since then I'd say that he certainly has gone above and beyond to prove that we were lucky he passed.

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April 28th, 2011 at 6:29 PM | Current Formula... (Score:-1 Trolling)
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Jim Tressell + the current  osWho situation amounts to a pile of garbage.  Hope the ncaa finally does what they need to do with these clowns.

As much as Mich. got dogged out last year.

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April 28th, 2011 at 6:31 PM | Hmmm (Score:4 Normal)
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Delany knows that people don't like "Leaders" and "Legends," yet he's not handling that differently.  So when do you believe him?

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April 28th, 2011 at 6:34 PM | lol, "underrated" (Score:4 Underrated)
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lol, "underrated"

COYS and lets go Detroit FC!

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April 28th, 2011 at 6:32 PM | Not sure RR would see it that (Score:1)
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Not sure RR would see it that way given how wonderfully things worked for him here.

 

 

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April 28th, 2011 at 6:34 PM | So if they would have known (Score:0 Overrated)
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So if they would have known that the coach was covering up five ineligible players for a whole season and then strong-armed them into staying for their Senior seasons during the coverup he would handled things differently? The Big 10 would have lost the bowl game if he would have done that.

It's all John Navarre's fault.

 

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April 28th, 2011 at 6:49 PM | Thinkin' (Score:3 Underrated)
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that would not have factored into any part of it . . . . .At All.  Far more serious, and the result now is that OSU makes the B1G look like, or worse than the SEC.   Which on a whole far far closer to a pro league than even OSU.

 

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April 29th, 2011 at 10:31 AM | That is the key point. (Score:1)
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Delaney especially has been way out there in pointing out the academic sham that is the SEC. 

The whole OSU mess nullifies his argument.  If left uncontested, it says the B1G is no better than the SEC.  In fact it says it's worse because not only does it do the same kind of crap, but it's hypocritical about it. 

The rest of us B1G fans have been saying for years that OSU is an SEC school in the midst of the Big Ten conference.  Now even Delaney has to wake up to that reality and deal with it.

He has to get rid of Tressel and put the hammer down on OSU.

 

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April 28th, 2011 at 6:35 PM | Hopefully the NCAA (Score:1)
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backs up Delany's disappointment with the appropriate penalties on the guilty coach.

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April 28th, 2011 at 7:02 PM | Sadly (Score:1)
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I am not holding my breathe.

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April 28th, 2011 at 6:42 PM | How is Gee doing on that (Score:1)
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How is Gee doing on that whole getting fired by Tessel thing?  Have we gotten any follow-up on that one?  What a bunch of clowns.

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April 28th, 2011 at 6:47 PM | No Subvehicularization Here (Score:3 Insightful)
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The interplay between the Big 10 and Tressel is going to be interesting to watch, but it doesn't seem like Delany's throwing Tressel under the proverbial bus.  "Throw under the bus" - to me, at least - connotes the "thrower" acting unfairly, usually to evade some blame of their own.

There isn't any unfairness in what Delany did here.  He was lied to, unwittingly acted on the basis of those lies, and now he's just saying that if he knew the true story things would have played out differently.  Seems fair to me.

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April 28th, 2011 at 6:57 PM | I don't think it involves (Score:1)
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I don't think it involves anything unfair, I just think that "throwing someone under the bus" means that the person went from a position of support to unwilling to maintain that position.

Delany's de facto position is to support all 11(12) coaches, and I think he's passed that point with Tressel now. Truthfully, it's almost his responsibility to condemn Tressel, as this story harms the rest of the conference. Delany would be remiss if he didn't make it clear that the B1G doesn't support lying and cheating. I'm not saying he has to say "TRESSEL DID IT HE'S GUILTY AS HELL" because that wouldn't be responsible. But he should come out in a packaged kind of presser and say that the Big Ten doesn't condone knowingly breaking rules and lying.

Go Blue!

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April 28th, 2011 at 7:06 PM | New logo? (Score:3 Underrated)
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Maybe he could reveal our new new logo at the same presser. That B1G thing is just plain embarrassing.

"I didn't do it. Nobody saw me do it. You can't prove anything."  B. Simpson

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April 28th, 2011 at 7:10 PM | I'd rather he revealed the (Score:1)
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I'd rather he revealed the "super secret" division names that they came up with, before getting us off the trail with "Leaders and Legends".

Go Blue!

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April 29th, 2011 at 1:35 AM | (Score:1)
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April 28th, 2011 at 6:50 PM | Jim Tressel (Score:3 Insightful)
WoodleyIsBeast
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Joined: 09/24/2009
MGoPoints: 375

Throws Jim Tressel under the bus

Hail To The Victors!

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April 28th, 2011 at 6:58 PM | I'm just hoping Tressel (Score:3 Funny)
justingoblue
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I'm just hoping Tressel doesn't throw Gee under the bus...

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April 28th, 2011 at 7:27 PM | Ah, (Score:1)
burntorangeblue
Joined: 12/19/2009
MGoPoints: 798

I see what you did there.

de'nard dog: michigan, ever heard of it?

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April 28th, 2011 at 6:52 PM | posted from iPhone (Score:4 Normal)
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Joined: 06/30/2008
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Delaney needs to grow some balls and dole out punishment on Tressel. If the SEC, the dirtiest of all conferences, suspended Pearl for lying, then Delaney needs to act accordingly. He can't talk trash about SEC and then when push comes to shove just ignore the matter. Ball's in your court Delaney.

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April 28th, 2011 at 7:10 PM | Sir you are correct (Score:0 Overrated)
Mi Sooner
Joined: 02/09/2010
MGoPoints: 1313

The SEC is calling him out for supporting that DIRTY program that is making the SEC schools look clean. A real commissioner would be calling them on the carpet today and not waiting. Of course Delaney is in their pocket anyway so I am not holding my breathe at this point.

Born in Oklahoma
Raised in Ohio
Escaped to Meechigan

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April 28th, 2011 at 7:20 PM | Interesting Idea (Score:1 Flamebait)
Everyone Murders
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This is interesting, but what power does the Big 10 have over individual coaches?  In other words, do our MGoReaders have an idea of what punishments the Big 10 can dole out with respect to a coach?

Any of you lawyas out there know what legal recourse (if any) there may be on a Big 10 level?  Certainly he can cause Tressel political damage, but can he take any action against Tressel in the name of the Big 10?

  • "Of course I care about that stuff.  To the point of irrationality.  It will always be Michigan first, cancer second."  Jim Mandich (RIP)
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April 28th, 2011 at 7:26 PM | They have the power to (Score:1 Flamebait)
justingoblue
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They have the power to suspend him under their ethical conduct policy. The B1G suspended Bobby Knight for this at least once.

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April 28th, 2011 at 6:55 PM | Is that really throwing him (Score:-1 Flamebait)
Michigan248
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Is that really throwing him under the bus?

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April 28th, 2011 at 7:12 PM | Did Ohio have this much fun (Score:2 Interesting)
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Joined: 03/21/2009
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Did Ohio have this much fun at our expense when the Jihad was waged on us?  I'm thinking yes, even though the Jihad was bullshit and their fans couldn't look objectively or even intelligently at our situation.  This might be more fun for us though because everyone thinks they should be fucked, not just us Michigan homers.

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April 29th, 2011 at 3:48 AM | My recollection is that (Score:1)
CalifExile
Joined: 03/02/2010
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My recollection is that several of their players said it was nonsense.

"After all was said and done, there was nothing left to do."

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April 29th, 2011 at 1:31 PM | I thought it was (Score:1)
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bullshit pretty much immediately.  No way you can practice that much and still only go 3-9. 

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April 28th, 2011 at 7:34 PM | What if (Score:2)
Will Vereene
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If Delany had known then, then all he could have done then is what he can do now; put pressure on the AD and the school administration to the right thing for the B1G. Ultimately, the NCAA has the highest suit in this case, so I don't think the B1G is going to issue sanctions against the school.

It will be interesting how long tOSU brass lets this go. Maybe less now that Delany has commented on the situation.

"I was gone before that guy wrecked the place, but it still disappoints"

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April 28th, 2011 at 10:39 PM | Big 10 vs NCAA (Score:1)
funkywolve
Joined: 10/08/2008
MGoPoints: 1948

I find it interesting that the SEC suspended Bruce Pearl for half of Tennessee's conference games and at least so far, the Big Ten is okay with Tressell missing 4 non-conference games and only one conference game.  The only non-conference game where I could see OSU possibly stumbling without Tressell is when they go to Miami.

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April 28th, 2011 at 7:41 PM | Jim Delany is the B1G grand (Score:3 Normal)
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Jim Delany is the B1G grand poobah.  He's supposed to throw people under the bus who pull this crap.  It's his damn job.  I hope he decides to actually do it.

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April 28th, 2011 at 8:26 PM | Huh? (Score:1)
orobs
Joined: 10/03/2010
MGoPoints: 1729

So why doesn't delaney "handle it differently" then now that this came to light?

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April 28th, 2011 at 9:21 PM | Delany has always come across (Score:2)
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Delany has always come across as kind of a weasel to me.  I have a feeling he's more angry that Tressel got caught moreso than what he actually did.

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