Irony takes a bow -- Beilein to head ethics coalition
INDIANAPOLIS (AP) - Michigan coach John Beilein will head a 14-member NCAA coaches coalition that hopes to clarify rules and prevent inadvertent infractions.
The NCAA made the announcement Thursday.
The men's basketball ethics coalition also hopes to give coaches a better understanding of rules' intent so that they can learn to play by the spirit of the rule as well as conform to the letter of the law.
Five of the BCS conferences are already represented. Only the Big East is not. Four members, including one current coach, have not been named.
The panel is an extension of a similar group formed by the National Association of Basketball Coaches in 2003. An NCAA official monitored those meetings, but the group could have more power and credibility working under the NCAA banner.
Beilein has been asked to teach recruiting ethics at NCAA coaches meetings in the past.
I think the poster misunderstands the word "irony".
No, I understand irony. Someone associated with Michigan basketball being asked to head an ethics coalition is ironic. Perhaps you've forgotten that whole "forfeiting wins because we cheated" part of Michigan's basketball history. Some would say that was a pretty bad display of ethics.
While it's not ironic that Beilein specifically was asked to do it (I'm quiet aware he a standup good guy and all), it is ironic that a Michigan basketball coach was asked to do it. So, sorry for the slight technicality.
In the meantime, here's a definition from dictionary.com to help you (and everyone else) out.
i⋅ro⋅ny
5. an outcome of events contrary to what was, or might have been, expected.
Instead of being ironic, I think it shows just how much Michigan wanted to get beyond the past transgressions and do it right.
I was blocking those memories out.
If you said Steve Fisher at SDSU was ironically the head of ethics, that might be a poitn. But, to say there is anything ironic about the man John Beilein heading ethics than your point is way off key.
Appointments aren't made based upon school affiliation. They are made upon the credits of the individual appointees. So, switching "Beilien" for "Michigan basketball" wouldn't make sensse in your post title. It wouldn't be a "technical change."
You point is more flacid than a 2 month old banana.
Let's face it. It was an attempt at humor that failed.
Oh, and also, attribution?
Perhaps you missed the "(AP)" at the very start of the post. AP = Associated Press. Guess its spell out the obvious day here on the internet.
I think he just wanted a link, dude.
This is not like rain on your wedding day.
To be fair, neither is irony.
none of that song is ironic.
10,000 spoons when all you need is a knife.
I met the man of my dreams and it was "Glen Mason's Hot Wife"
So I've spent the last 10 minutes googleing ironic, and now I don't know what it is anymore.
Apparently, only 22% of the usage panel on such matters found the above sentence ironic.
That isn't Ironic. I don't think. No I really don't think.
That is untrue. The lack of irony in a song called "Ironic" is absolutely ironic. Furthermore, Alanis always called herself the Queen of Malapropisms, and it has been suggested that "ironic" is merely a malapropism for things in that song that would be "iconic", "erratic", etcetera in the life of the individual living them.
To be sure, there can be explanations of that song that fail to begin with "Ugh, here's a one line mini exegesis delineating why I think Alanis is a big dumb bitch: She doesn't know what ironic means; so, there!"
hmmmmmm... I am trying to understand why any one would... that was heavy man...heavy.
Is it like a traffic jam when you're already late?
OP was trying to make the connection between our still-in-memory NCAA sanctions and our new coach being put on an ethics coalition.
I see, but using Beilein specifically makes no sense. Great coach, great guy.
Bingo. Although, it looks like I get minus 2 internet points for my apparent poor execution.
This is similar to that time that someone offered me a free ride, but I was already there.
...is the line about the guy who is afraid to fly, then decides he'll do it anyway, and then his plane crashes.
Maybe the poster is Jay Bilas.
is, in almost every conceivable way, COMPLETELY detached from the M program of the 1990s. I don't think there's a singe basketball employee who was with the team in 1998. most of them replaced the guys who replaced the guys who broke the rules.*
Michigan probably runs the cleanest mens basketball program in the nation, speaking in the present tense. It's over.
* oh by the way, no AD employee actually broke any NCAA rules.
It's bad enough that MSU trolls constantly throw the scandal in our faces; a so-called UM fan doing it lies somewhere between trolling and unconscionable ignorance.
Besides, neither Fisher nor anyone on the UM staff had anything to do with the Ed Martin scandal. Martin was a parasite who fed off the inability of a few UM players to wait until they were finished with school to start playing professionally.
Fisher was probably stupid and naive, or may have "looked the other way," but there is no proof that he was unethical.
What are you talking about....yourself?
You are in such denial on all of this.
What do you supposed the over 3 dozen calls from coaching staffs phones to Ed Martin were about? They werent talking about the price of tea in China.
How about 97 games that the school managed to provide tickets to Martin for? Or Fisher giving Martin two univeristy paid hotel rooms for the 1992 Final Four.
Yeah, Fisher didnt know this guy, didnt know what was going on, clean as whistle. Keep believing what you want to believe. Martin went on recruiting stops with both Frieder and Fisher. Both coaches knew exactly who this guy was, what he represented and the thin, dirty line they were walking. Quit being such an apologist for people who willfully skirted the rules, ruined the program and tarnished the school.
At least this Michigan fan is a realest and can admit the hoops program that I adored growing up was shady. You just think the NCAA is out to get UM and give others a pass.
I'm not sure you know what unconscionable ignorance means.
I fully agree. Fisher knew what was up and chose to look the other way. Granted, there probably are other coaches who have done likewise, but it was still a major stain on our reputation. By now though, we've moved on.
We've more than moved on. We have a great coach, who wins and does it the right way wherever he goes.
Beilein is 10 x the coach that Fish and Frieder are and does it with a lot more ethics. Its not even up for debate.
I've moved on....i think its been 60 days since my last Webber tanked on purpose joke....see, we can all modify our internal beliefs to align with actual facts in play.
It just ticks me off when people try to sweep this scandal under the rug the way Tater does. Then, to infer that people who blame the coaches--like I do--for being shady are ignorant and not true Michigan fans....it just bugs me how people can have the head so firmly entrenched in the sand.
Actually, it does not surprise me at all.
I cant wait for Tater's response. Oh. Wait. I wont get one.....unless, like above, he uses a different thread.
If Steve Fisher or Bill Freider had been chosen to head the coalition, that would indeed be ironic. Or Kelvin Sampson. Or Jim Harrick.
But a guy who had not the slightest, most tenuous connection to a scandal that happened the better part of a decade before he even got here? A guy whose name has never once been associated with infractions at any of the schools he's been at?
Not even close.
...it's similar to if Zimbabwe, Sudan and Iraq were on the UN Human Rights Commission.
Oh wait.....
FAIL...
This is crazy talk.
the last 30 years can be traced back to Johnny Orr leaving for more money in Ames of all places.