Introducing Demetrius Stinson: '13 ATH from Detroit Douglas
#18 in-state ranked player for the 2013 class. He is Mr. everything on his team: RB, WR, CB, SS, FS, KR, PR. Guy has a single offer that is from Toledo.
Doubt he gets a look from Hoke since it is so late in the game. Still, he looks like a good fit to multiple positions.
January 29th, 2013 at 7:05 AM ^
are you one of his friends?
January 29th, 2013 at 7:18 AM ^
January 29th, 2013 at 7:27 AM ^
January 29th, 2013 at 7:47 AM ^
Any relation to Lorenzo von Matterhorn?
January 29th, 2013 at 9:58 AM ^
The play: The High School Football Recruit
Step 1: Attend high school, join football team. Step 2: Get recruited by SEC schools. Step 3: Hookup with designated coed tourguides on official visit. Step 4: Go home at end of weekend, visit another school next weekend. Never see those girls again.
January 29th, 2013 at 2:16 PM ^
January 29th, 2013 at 8:13 AM ^
His tape looks alright, but I don't know if I would call him Mr. Everything. He is a RB/DB that can play some WR, and handles returns for his team. That is pretty common for high school athletes. (Not incredibly common to play CB/FS/SS, I commend him for that) If you throw in another position, like QB or LB, I think that's when we'd start calling him Mr. Everything.
I wouldn't be upset if we offered the kid a scholarship before signing day, but I also wouldn't be upset if we banked a scholarship. He doesn't look like he has the athletecism to hold more than a few mac offers, but he could always be a late bloomer.
January 29th, 2013 at 8:23 AM ^
His rivals page has him only holding a Toledo offer, which is meh. I don't know how much we need depth at CB with 10 on the roster (Never Forget, I know). SS could use some love but I'm not sure its worth a spot with 2 to sign LOIs in a few weeks. I wish him the best wherever he lands.
January 29th, 2013 at 8:36 AM ^
January 29th, 2013 at 8:45 AM ^
Jake Ryan is a clear abberation in terms of his talent and his offer sheet. The number of D1 offers is a metric just as star rating is. Tell me where he should be taken at? FS/SS/WR/RB? I didn't dismiss the kid or his chances with Michigan. If the coaches offer him great, if not, good luck to him elsewhere.
January 29th, 2013 at 8:46 AM ^
Yeah, he had offers from Ball State, Bowling Green, Central Michigan, Eastern Michigan, and Toledo. What's your point? Are all guys with MAC offers good enough to make an impact at Michigan? And even if you take that angle, you still have to consider that Toledo is the only school (and not 4 others, like in Ryan's case) to offer a scholarship. Sure, maybe Toledo found a diamond in the rough and is great at evaluating talent, but NOBODY agrees with them (except perhaps a few random message board posters).
January 29th, 2013 at 9:05 AM ^
January 29th, 2013 at 9:22 AM ^
Stribling was also offered by Michigan over the summer before his senior year. You can bet that he has (or would have) more offers after the senior season he had. Stinson, meanwhile, is still sitting on a Toledo offer that was extended last April. There's a difference.
I agree that there are other ways to judge players, but an offer list isn't a bad place to start.
January 29th, 2013 at 10:24 AM ^
Interesting to note that Hoke evaluated Ryan for SDSU and passed, too. I chalk this one up to late blooming... some players grow and mature late.
But MORE IMPORTANTLY, OSU took his teammate a 5 11 LB named McVey I think, and Ryan is totally outshining him...
January 29th, 2013 at 12:37 PM ^
BTW ... McVey had a career ending injury ....
January 29th, 2013 at 8:24 AM ^
I've had my eye on Stinson for the last couple seasons, but I don't think he's a Michigan-level player. He's small and, despite putting up good numbers, really isn't that explosive.
January 29th, 2013 at 9:01 AM ^
January 29th, 2013 at 10:25 AM ^
did you think Norfleet is a Michigan-level player? I sure don't, based on what I've seen so far.
January 29th, 2013 at 10:32 AM ^
That's odd, because Norfleet had better kick return numbers than Steve Breaston did during Breaston's freshman AND senior years...despite the fact that the ball is kicked from closer than it was during Breaston's career.
Here's what I thought of Norfleet when he committed:
http://touchthebanner.blogspot.com/2012/02/dennis-norfleet-wolverine.ht…
January 29th, 2013 at 12:16 PM ^
Magnus, do you know of anyone we might be seriously taking a look at for the last spot?
January 29th, 2013 at 12:23 PM ^
There are several in-state prospects who are headed to places like Central Michigan and the like, but I haven't heard any connections between those guys and Michigan. Usually a late offer at this juncture seems to come from a Michigan/Ohio kid, somebody who might already have visited and made connections with the coaches and other players.
I did an in-state preview last February, and a few names on here might be ones to watch:
http://touchthebanner.blogspot.com/2012/02/in-state-preview-of-2013-rec…
January 29th, 2013 at 12:33 PM ^
Is there anyone on that list or maybe someone from ohio that you would like to see us try to get?
January 29th, 2013 at 12:44 PM ^
I'm not as familiar with Ohio players, but I wouldn't be opposed to Kenton Gibbs getting an offer. I don't think he's great, but he might develop down the road. I also like the Corey Willis kid as a receiver. I'm a little surprised that Cameron Dillard was never offered, but I doubt Michigan could swoop in and flip him at this point, even if they wanted another OL.
January 29th, 2013 at 12:53 PM ^
Is there a reason why Indiana was his only B1G offer, while he was offered by other schools throughout the country?
January 29th, 2013 at 1:15 PM ^
Gibbs? Gibbs was offered by Illinois and Wisconsin, along with Indiana.
January 29th, 2013 at 1:23 PM ^
Sorry, I should have been clear. I was talking about Dillard.
January 29th, 2013 at 1:32 PM ^
Gotcha. Well, he committed last April, and guys don't always continue listing offers after they commit. I'm not sure why other Big Ten schools didn't offer before that time, but it was still pretty early in the process. I'm guessing he would have more offers listed if he had waited.
Anyway, he's not a stud, "must have" prospect, so I can see why Michigan, Ohio State, etc. would have held off. And he doesn't really fit the mold of an athletic lineman that a team like Northwestern might be head-over-heels for. So that kind of narrows the window a little bit.
January 29th, 2013 at 8:37 AM ^
It shows how tough it really is to be a BCS-level D1 player. We talk about them like they grow on trees, but they are indeed very rare in real life.
You would think one of the top 20 players in the state would have their pick of BCS schools. Or at least MSU.
January 29th, 2013 at 9:03 AM ^
January 29th, 2013 at 12:38 PM ^
So you are saying someone as big as Ondre Pipkins, but with the speed and agility of Norfleet.
January 29th, 2013 at 2:13 PM ^
He means someone the size of Norfleet but with the speed and strength of Pipkins.
January 29th, 2013 at 9:09 AM ^
He could return kicks. We would have Norlfeet from MLK and Stinson from Douglas. "The Detroit Duo".
January 29th, 2013 at 9:29 AM ^
Wouldn't be surprised if he got some low level Big East or B1G (Indiana) type offers late in the process. He's solid, but doesn't really do anything spectacular. If Michigan was looking for a flyer for a SS or RB late, maybe, but that's a pretty big maybe. As is, Michigan has better prospects already committed at the positions he'll play.
This all assumes of course that his film shows everything you need to know about him (no off field issues).
January 29th, 2013 at 10:05 AM ^
January 29th, 2013 at 10:19 AM ^
I agree that QB appears to be our thinnest position, and thus logically that would seem to be the spot where an extra 2013 recruit could help us the most. But after the Bellomy debacle in Lincoln, I tend to think it's just not worth it to sign a QB who doesn't have the kind of measurables Al is really looking for.
January 29th, 2013 at 12:15 PM ^
January 29th, 2013 at 12:56 PM ^
Well, I don't like to criticize our players and I respect the effort and dedication Bellomy has shown. But from that performance I question whether he has the basic arm-strength and accuracy to play QB in Michigan's offense. I think a lot of other people are wondering the same thing. I was not expecting Tom Brady 2.0, but I also wasn't expecting 3-16 for 38 yards and 3 INTs. I am not trying to bag on the kid, but if he's not a realistic option then it is what it is.
I've never gotten involved in this whole debate about whether the coaches shoudl have done more to prepare a back-up for Denard before the Nebraska game. But most people making that argument have been saying that it was Gardner who should have been taking reps as the #2 QB (with the opposing view being that Gardner was also our best WR, and so the best bet was to continue letting him focus on WR while hoping Denard would stay healthy). I think you are the first person I have seen who has argued that Bellomy should have been better prepared.
January 29th, 2013 at 12:48 PM ^
If anything, I think that game illustrates the value of having some QB options in case your starter goes down.
January 29th, 2013 at 12:52 PM ^
If you don't offer Bellomy (and Gardner still moves to WR, which wouldn't happen), then your backup in the Nebraska game would have been Jack Kennedy.
I've said this for the last couple years - you can't skimp at the QB position. Michigan didn't do a good job of recruiting quarterbacks in 2011/2012, and that may have cost us the Nebraska game. I don't really understand why people are down with bringing in 8 or 9 running backs, going 4-deep at linebacker, etc., but then they're okay with just having 3 quarterbacks. That doesn't make any logical sense whatsoever.
January 29th, 2013 at 3:35 PM ^
January 29th, 2013 at 12:30 PM ^
I have no opinion on this kid other than automatically liking him for opening his highlight reel with Goldberg's WCW entrance music.
January 29th, 2013 at 1:04 PM ^
He's listed as 5'10" which means he's really probably 5'8". No doubt about it, he is strong too, but his size and lack of elite speed are probably what are holding him back from more offers. Just like guys can look great at the collegiate level but be a step too slow or a bit too small for the NFL, so, too, can guys tear it up at the high school level but not be BCS-level talent.
January 29th, 2013 at 1:57 PM ^
I wish Stinson the best. I also believe that if he deserves an offer, he'll get one. I trust the coaches.
January 29th, 2013 at 2:47 PM ^
He took more hits from his linemen than from defenders in that video. Toledo is a good school for RBs.
January 29th, 2013 at 3:12 PM ^
January 29th, 2013 at 6:58 PM ^
We don't need him as a kick returner, we have enough running backs, and we have enough defensive backs. There's really just no place for someone like him on the team.