Introducing Demetrius Stinson: '13 ATH from Detroit Douglas

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#18 in-state ranked player for the 2013 class. He is Mr. everything on his team: RB, WR, CB, SS, FS, KR, PR. Guy has a single offer that is from Toledo.

 

Doubt he gets a look from Hoke since it is so late in the game. Still, he looks like a good fit to multiple positions.

 

Wolverine Devotee

January 29th, 2013 at 7:18 AM ^

I think he gets picked up on signing day like Norfleet. Dude is legit. Seen him play a few times.

JohnCorbin

January 29th, 2013 at 8:13 AM ^

His tape looks alright, but I don't know if I would call him Mr. Everything.  He is a RB/DB that can play some WR, and handles returns for his team.  That is pretty common for high school athletes.  (Not incredibly common to play CB/FS/SS, I commend him for that)  If you throw in another position, like QB or LB, I think that's when we'd start calling him Mr. Everything.

I wouldn't be upset if we offered the kid a scholarship before signing day, but I also wouldn't be upset if we banked a scholarship.  He doesn't look like he has the athletecism to hold more than a few mac offers, but he could always be a late bloomer.

triangle_M

January 29th, 2013 at 8:23 AM ^

His rivals page has him only holding a Toledo offer, which is meh.  I don't know how much we need depth at CB with 10 on the roster (Never Forget, I know).  SS could use some love but I'm not sure its worth a spot with 2 to sign LOIs in a few weeks.  I wish him the best wherever he lands.

triangle_M

January 29th, 2013 at 8:45 AM ^

Jake Ryan is a clear abberation in terms of his talent and his offer sheet.  The number of D1 offers is a metric just as star rating is.  Tell me where he should be taken at?  FS/SS/WR/RB?  I didn't dismiss the kid or his chances with Michigan.   If the coaches offer him great, if not, good luck to him elsewhere.

Magnus

January 29th, 2013 at 8:46 AM ^

Yeah, he had offers from Ball State, Bowling Green, Central Michigan, Eastern Michigan, and Toledo.  What's your point?  Are all guys with MAC offers good enough to make an impact at Michigan?  And even if you take that angle, you still have to consider that Toledo is the only school (and not 4 others, like in Ryan's case) to offer a scholarship.  Sure, maybe Toledo found a diamond in the rough and is great at evaluating talent, but NOBODY agrees with them (except perhaps a few random message board posters).

Frito Bandito

January 29th, 2013 at 9:05 AM ^

My point is there are much better ways to judge talent than offers alone. I know how much you like stribling and he was offered by ball state and 3 d2 schools. Also the Mac continues to produce nfl talent year after year with players that weren't good enough to get offers from the big boys.

Magnus

January 29th, 2013 at 9:22 AM ^

Stribling was also offered by Michigan over the summer before his senior year.  You can bet that he has (or would have) more offers after the senior season he had.  Stinson, meanwhile, is still sitting on a Toledo offer that was extended last April.  There's a difference.

I agree that there are other ways to judge players, but an offer list isn't a bad place to start.

Alumnus93

January 29th, 2013 at 10:24 AM ^

Interesting to note that Hoke evaluated Ryan for SDSU and passed, too. I chalk this one up to late blooming...  some players grow and mature late.

But MORE IMPORTANTLY,   OSU  took his teammate a 5 11  LB named McVey  I think, and Ryan is totally outshining him...

Magnus

January 29th, 2013 at 8:24 AM ^

I've had my eye on Stinson for the last couple seasons, but I don't think he's a Michigan-level player.  He's small and, despite putting up good numbers, really isn't that explosive.

Magnus

January 29th, 2013 at 10:32 AM ^

That's odd, because Norfleet had better kick return numbers than Steve Breaston did during Breaston's freshman AND senior years...despite the fact that the ball is kicked from closer than it was during Breaston's career.

Here's what I thought of Norfleet when he committed:

http://touchthebanner.blogspot.com/2012/02/dennis-norfleet-wolverine.ht…

Magnus

January 29th, 2013 at 12:23 PM ^

There are several in-state prospects who are headed to places like Central Michigan and the like, but I haven't heard any connections between those guys and Michigan.  Usually a late offer at this juncture seems to come from a Michigan/Ohio kid, somebody who might already have visited and made connections with the coaches and other players.

I did an in-state preview last February, and a few names on here might be ones to watch:

http://touchthebanner.blogspot.com/2012/02/in-state-preview-of-2013-rec…

Magnus

January 29th, 2013 at 12:44 PM ^

I'm not as familiar with Ohio players, but I wouldn't be opposed to Kenton Gibbs getting an offer.  I don't think he's great, but he might develop down the road.  I also like the Corey Willis kid as a receiver.  I'm a little surprised that Cameron Dillard was never offered, but I doubt Michigan could swoop in and flip him at this point, even if they wanted another OL.

Magnus

January 29th, 2013 at 1:32 PM ^

Gotcha.  Well, he committed last April, and guys don't always continue listing offers after they commit.  I'm not sure why other Big Ten schools didn't offer before that time, but it was still pretty early in the process.  I'm guessing he would have more offers listed if he had waited.

Anyway, he's not a stud, "must have" prospect, so I can see why Michigan, Ohio State, etc. would have held off.  And he doesn't really fit the mold of an athletic lineman that a team like Northwestern might be head-over-heels for.  So that kind of narrows the window a little bit.

M-Dog

January 29th, 2013 at 8:37 AM ^

It shows how tough it really is to be a BCS-level D1 player.  We talk about them like they grow on trees, but they are indeed very rare in real life.  

You would think one of the top 20 players in the state would have their pick of BCS schools.  Or at least MSU.

Wolverine Devotee

January 29th, 2013 at 9:09 AM ^

He could return kicks. We would have Norlfeet from MLK and Stinson from Douglas. "The Detroit Duo".

Space Coyote

January 29th, 2013 at 9:29 AM ^

Wouldn't be surprised if he got some low level Big East or B1G (Indiana) type offers late in the process. He's solid, but doesn't really do anything spectacular. If Michigan was looking for a flyer for a SS or RB late, maybe, but that's a pretty big maybe. As is, Michigan has better prospects already committed at the positions he'll play.

This all assumes of course that his film shows everything you need to know about him (no off field issues).

turd ferguson

January 29th, 2013 at 10:05 AM ^

I'm sure this won't happen, but if I were thinking about MAC recruits who might be worth a last second look - and if it wouldn't completely piss off Shane Morris - I'd take a look at Brogan Roback, the QB from Ohio who is committed to EMU. Our long-term QB depth still has me nervous, and it's be great to have one fewer egg in the Shane Morris basket. Roback doesn't seem like the kind of guy who's likely to win a starting spot from Morris, but it'd be comforting to fill the gap left by 2012 QB recruiting with another guy who'd be available/capable as an insurance policy. Getting some QB depth would probably be as valuable as anything else we could get from that last scholarship. I'm ignoring any unwritten rules about not doing this kind of thing to the former Michigan guys at EMU. I'm also aware that the coaches, to my knowledge, haven't even hinted at getting another 2013 QB since Morris committed. Just thinking out loud.

EGD

January 29th, 2013 at 10:19 AM ^

I agree that QB appears to be our thinnest position, and thus logically that would seem to be the spot where an extra 2013 recruit could help us the most.  But after the Bellomy debacle in Lincoln, I tend to think it's just not worth it to sign a QB who doesn't have the kind of measurables Al is really looking for.

umfan323

January 29th, 2013 at 12:15 PM ^

I place a lot of that blame on the coaches..their failure to get the back up any reps during the week and to have him prepared to be nothing more than a clip board holder..Not to mention he was in a hostile environment with no run game whatsoever to atleast take some pressure off him.. i suppose you were expecting Tom Brady 2.0

EGD

January 29th, 2013 at 12:56 PM ^

Well, I don't like to criticize our players and I respect the effort and dedication Bellomy has shown.  But from that performance I question whether he has the basic arm-strength and accuracy to play QB in Michigan's offense.  I think a lot of other people are wondering the same thing.  I was not expecting Tom Brady 2.0, but I also wasn't expecting 3-16 for 38 yards and 3 INTs.  I am not trying to bag on the kid, but if he's not a realistic option then it is what it is. 

I've never gotten involved in this whole debate about whether the coaches shoudl have done more to prepare a back-up for Denard before the Nebraska game.  But most people making that argument have been saying that it was Gardner who should have been taking reps as the #2 QB (with the opposing view being that Gardner was also our best WR, and so the best bet was to continue letting him focus on WR while hoping Denard would stay healthy).  I think you are the first person I have seen who has argued that Bellomy should have been better prepared. 

Magnus

January 29th, 2013 at 12:52 PM ^

If you don't offer Bellomy (and Gardner still moves to WR, which wouldn't happen), then your backup in the Nebraska game would have been Jack Kennedy.

I've said this for the last couple years - you can't skimp at the QB position.  Michigan didn't do a good job of recruiting quarterbacks in 2011/2012, and that may have cost us the Nebraska game.  I don't really understand why people are down with bringing in 8 or 9 running backs, going 4-deep at linebacker, etc., but then they're okay with just having 3 quarterbacks.  That doesn't make any logical sense whatsoever.

YoOoBoMoLloRoHo

January 29th, 2013 at 3:35 PM ^

interchange. SAMs can play WILL or FS can play SS if necessary so the depth is actually better than the 4 deep, but what other position can play QB? Most of the top programs take 2 QBs in intermittent classes to ensure 4+. Should never be a choice of "Bellomy or a walk-on" (and Bellomy was clearly a late safety plan when he was offered).

UMgradMSUdad

January 29th, 2013 at 1:04 PM ^

He's listed as 5'10" which means he's really probably 5'8".  No doubt about it, he is strong too, but his size and lack of elite speed are probably what are holding him back from more offers.  Just like guys can look great at the collegiate level but be a step too slow or a bit too small for the NFL, so, too, can guys tear it up at the high school level but not be BCS-level talent.

The Truth Hurts

January 29th, 2013 at 3:12 PM ^

Stinson would be a good addition as a late pickup. His speed is around the same as Ramone Taylor. About 5 10 205 lbs. Plus he was teammates with Kenton Gibbs, Jayru Campbell, and Damon Webb in little league. Same team that produced Devin Gardner.