Interesting stat: Alabama and Georgia have two of the worst passing offenses in the country

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Alabama #101 182 YPG

Georgia #111 171 YPG

Michigan #94 191 YPG

Both have top 10 rush offenses however. Seems like the key to success for UM going forward will be to commit to the run game. 271 yards against IU on the ground is a good start.

switch26

October 15th, 2017 at 2:00 PM ^

I agree, but my thought on this is we have switched rbs so damn often that no one can get into a rythm..

Every game that Isaac or Evans or higdon has been given 15+ carries they have busted a huge run have they not?

Someone can check my memory but I think if we can commit to it.

MIGHTYMOJO91

October 15th, 2017 at 2:58 PM ^

"Wow..sorry dick"....your words not mine in a response to my post (o-line appreciation thread) less than 24 hours ago.  So look who's a dick now! How ironic you stupid dick! Anxious to see your spin on this one. Selective memory much?

ohioNblue33

October 15th, 2017 at 3:09 PM ^

super Negative dude. I re read what I wrote. You do realise we always struggle with Indiana. Indiana's defense isnt that bad. so I stand by my "dick" statement. I made a reasonable statement and wasnt an asshole about it.

MIGHTYMOJO91

October 15th, 2017 at 3:40 PM ^

Just wondering about your 180 there. Nice spin though. All this coming from someone who says "Right side of our line is very suspect"  I stand by my dick statement you super delusional fuck!!!! How stupid are you really. You seem to flop more than a fish out of water.

ohioNblue33

October 15th, 2017 at 3:51 PM ^

Is a difference when being real about something or just being a real dick about it. you chose to be the real dick. so what, I said the right side is suspect. I didn't say the fucking right sucks fuck em. see the difference guy. you probably don't cause youre too busy being a dick. i get it. :)

TrueBlue2003

October 16th, 2017 at 1:54 AM ^

gap-blocking and it's been good in both games (stats not as good against MSU because they could sell out against the run because of weather)  There is a chance we could run the ball effectively EVERY game. Also need to stop fumbling though.

UMFanInFlorida

October 15th, 2017 at 1:56 PM ^

The difference may be that those two teams can pass when they need to but prefer to run. They are ahead in every game and probably sit on leads by grinding out running drives to milk the clock, thus lower passing totals.

We on the other hand cannot pass when we need or want to. Our passing totals are low due to poor execution and young or missing talent.

Big difference.

CLion

October 15th, 2017 at 1:57 PM ^

Georgia is interesting since Fromm is pro style. Bama not surprising though: Hurts has 558 yards rushing on the season.

Blueblood2991

October 15th, 2017 at 1:57 PM ^

Interesting stat, but it doesn't tell the whole story. Jalen Hurts has only thrown 1 INT the whole year. Bama has only turned the ball over 3 times this year.

They're so far ahead by halftime, that Jalen Hurts usually doesn't play the second half. There's a difference between having low YPG, and not needing to pass at all in the 2nd half.

stephenrjking

October 15th, 2017 at 3:19 PM ^

He might lead, but he's not asked to to much. I think he threw for less than 100 yards at Tennessee, for example, and the stuff he did throw was pretty basic.

That's not to say that we're secretly better, just that they're not having him light it up.

TrueBlue2003

October 16th, 2017 at 1:51 AM ^

we have an elite defense and if we can run like we did against IU (not a terrible run defense!), we shouldn't have to ask JOK to do much.  He obviously needs to be a lot better than 2.8 YPA or whatever, but he doesn't have to have a lot of yards or a lot of attempts.  Just needs to be more efficient with the attempts he makes.

Mgoczar

October 15th, 2017 at 2:01 PM ^

Difference is every time I watch Georgia, Fromm is hitting the PA pass after run run run for like 40 yards.
Our QB just missed Gentry and threw to double covered Crawford. If we hit a couple of PAs we can be very productive

Squash34

October 15th, 2017 at 3:18 PM ^

Despite it being a bad decision, he put the ball in a spot Crawford could make a catch (not saying I have confidence he would) but he was blatently interfered with without a call.
The play would have almost certainly drawn a flag for Georgia, and for sure would have for bama.
Again, a bad decision to throw instead of looking at his second option, but he gave the wr a chance that the bama and goergia wr would catch most of the time if their arm is not being yanked behind his back.

stephenrjking

October 15th, 2017 at 3:22 PM ^

You never get that call against blanket double coverage, and it was a poor throw. Crawford had a step that he had to give back (causing contact) when a ball that led him properly actually would have had a chance. Compare the Eubanks catch on basically the same play against Florida.

It might be an acceptable throw if the receiver has single coverage and is known to be able to win 50/50 passes. With Crawford and double coverage, just plain bad.

Squash34

October 15th, 2017 at 3:44 PM ^

The contact was the corner grabbing his arm and tugging it behind his back, though. It was blatent and caused Crawford to turn that way.
The placement was crap, he needed to lead him. And, you are right, Crawford probably does not bail out O'Korn (which I think Georgia wr would, and am sure bama's would). But, that still needed to be called. Crawford could only go up with one hand because the other was forced behind his back. I just don't see that missed if hurts makes a bad decision to throw to Ridley and he gets his arm tugged so hard he gets turned and can't bring up two hands.
I guess my point is, the overthrow to the wide open fade to DJP is a better example. Fromm probably doesn't miss it so bad DPJ doesn't have a shot.

stephenrjking

October 15th, 2017 at 4:14 PM ^

Refs never make that call when there is a second defender stepping in front of the the receiver, though. Guys can basically get tackled with no call if there is a defender in front.

Re: Fromme--he has overthrown his fair share of guys. But he's not asked to do much and has hit his fair share of guys dead on, too. If Michigan had a better OL I think we could go to a similar system of conservative, basic reads that whomever was under center could make and it could work. With the OL still not firmly established (and some distance from being great regardless) I don't think we can get away with that.

But yeah, Fromme probably would have hit that.

Squash34

October 15th, 2017 at 4:38 PM ^

I would agree if it was a tight bracket, which it was not. The ball placement did cause the underneath guy to come into the play. But, in a game that had 4 or 5 defensive holding calls, missing that was bad. It was not like the pin happened as they were all going up for it. The hold happened as Crawford was trying to adjust to the ball and get in position to eventually jump. I think holding or pi, just called on bracket coverage that is not tight, and where a wr gets his hands pinned so bad you can only get one arm up.
The reason why I think Fromm or even hurts (who I feel is limited as a passer) makes that through us because if you throw almost any other ball except the ball O'Korn throw it's at least a catch. The frustrating thing is he has made good throws deep. In fact his throw to Black in the Florida game maybe the best throw of the year for Michigan QBs.

saveferris

October 16th, 2017 at 8:04 AM ^

While I agree that Crawford got pinned and probably warranted a flag, the bottom line is that O'Korn made the wrong read on that play.  Hit the wide open Gentry and keep the drive moving.  The issues I see with O'Korn is twofold:  He seems to get impatient, wanting to hit the home run pass too often rather than settling for his safety read and he has a case of happy feet. 

He looks like a player for whom the game hasn't slowed down for him yet, which at this point in his career, you have to question whether or not it ever will.

Richard75

October 15th, 2017 at 2:07 PM ^

Alabama has one of the better passing offenses in the country. They just don’t have to use it.

If you watch them play, Hurts hits guys on time and has good awareness. Ridley is elite. But why throw when you can just plow everybody on the ground?

jbDutch

October 15th, 2017 at 2:20 PM ^

YPG is a poor stat to use here.  Neither of those teams has to throw the ball much so why would the have huge YPG?  They do, however, have far more efficient passing offenses than M.

 

Yards per attempt:

Georgia #9 9.0 YPA

Alabama #35 8.0 YPA

Michigan #77 7.0 YPA

 

Passer Rating:

Georgia #13 158.20

Alabama #21 153.62

Michigan #110 114.41

 

QBR:

Alabama #16 76.4

Georgia #34 66.0

Michigan #111 37.0

http://www.cfbstats.com/2017/leader/national/team/offense/split01/categ…

http://www.espn.com/ncf/qbr/_/type/team-season