Interesting stat: Alabama and Georgia have two of the worst passing offenses in the country
October 15th, 2017 at 1:56 PM ^
they run the ball effectively EVERY game. We do sometimes.
October 15th, 2017 at 2:00 PM ^
I agree, but my thought on this is we have switched rbs so damn often that no one can get into a rythm..
Every game that Isaac or Evans or higdon has been given 15+ carries they have busted a huge run have they not?
Someone can check my memory but I think if we can commit to it.
October 15th, 2017 at 2:15 PM ^
I think Higdon should have the most carries a game. hes been pretty consistent. would like to see Kareem Walker a little more too. But, without a decent pass game we will lose to better teams.
October 15th, 2017 at 2:40 PM ^
You do know that Georgia and bama both have a RB by committee approach too right?
October 15th, 2017 at 2:58 PM ^
"Wow..sorry dick"....your words not mine in a response to my post (o-line appreciation thread) less than 24 hours ago. So look who's a dick now! How ironic you stupid dick! Anxious to see your spin on this one. Selective memory much?
October 15th, 2017 at 2:59 PM ^
about it bro haha
October 15th, 2017 at 3:09 PM ^
super Negative dude. I re read what I wrote. You do realise we always struggle with Indiana. Indiana's defense isnt that bad. so I stand by my "dick" statement. I made a reasonable statement and wasnt an asshole about it.
October 15th, 2017 at 3:40 PM ^
Just wondering about your 180 there. Nice spin though. All this coming from someone who says "Right side of our line is very suspect" I stand by my dick statement you super delusional fuck!!!! How stupid are you really. You seem to flop more than a fish out of water.
October 15th, 2017 at 3:47 PM ^
dude look how pissed you are! this guy pissed yall, look at him hes pissed guys! haha
October 15th, 2017 at 3:54 PM ^
Thanks for adding nothing to the conversation spin doctor.
October 15th, 2017 at 3:54 PM ^
band can we at least agree on that?
October 15th, 2017 at 5:02 PM ^
neg both of you
October 15th, 2017 at 5:45 PM ^
for inconvience.
October 15th, 2017 at 6:38 PM ^
Wierd huh?
October 15th, 2017 at 6:37 PM ^
Logged in to neg you. Your dog in the fight is what?
October 15th, 2017 at 9:09 PM ^
Sheesh. One of you post your phone number already.
October 15th, 2017 at 9:53 PM ^
I'm good over here. slowly walking away from this.
October 15th, 2017 at 3:51 PM ^
Is a difference when being real about something or just being a real dick about it. you chose to be the real dick. so what, I said the right side is suspect. I didn't say the fucking right sucks fuck em. see the difference guy. you probably don't cause youre too busy being a dick. i get it. :)
October 16th, 2017 at 1:54 AM ^
gap-blocking and it's been good in both games (stats not as good against MSU because they could sell out against the run because of weather) There is a chance we could run the ball effectively EVERY game. Also need to stop fumbling though.
October 15th, 2017 at 1:56 PM ^
The difference may be that those two teams can pass when they need to but prefer to run. They are ahead in every game and probably sit on leads by grinding out running drives to milk the clock, thus lower passing totals.
We on the other hand cannot pass when we need or want to. Our passing totals are low due to poor execution and young or missing talent.
Big difference.
October 15th, 2017 at 1:58 PM ^
Exactly. Baka, at least, doesn't have many passing yards because they're kicking the shit out of whoever they play by the end of the first quarter. Need to look at YPA to really know the effectiveness.
October 15th, 2017 at 2:01 PM ^
Georgia is 16 in YPA and Bama is 31. Michigan is 76th.
October 15th, 2017 at 2:04 PM ^
We want Baka
October 15th, 2017 at 3:09 PM ^
It's not like I want touchdowns or anything! B-Baka!
October 16th, 2017 at 1:47 AM ^
Kelly Baraka?
October 15th, 2017 at 1:57 PM ^
Yep, YPG is definitely the best measure to use to judge the quality of a passing attack.
October 15th, 2017 at 1:57 PM ^
Georgia is interesting since Fromm is pro style. Bama not surprising though: Hurts has 558 yards rushing on the season.
October 15th, 2017 at 1:57 PM ^
Interesting stat, but it doesn't tell the whole story. Jalen Hurts has only thrown 1 INT the whole year. Bama has only turned the ball over 3 times this year.
They're so far ahead by halftime, that Jalen Hurts usually doesn't play the second half. There's a difference between having low YPG, and not needing to pass at all in the 2nd half.
October 15th, 2017 at 2:05 PM ^
Fair point, and Fromm at Georgia leads to the SEC in passer rating. Obviously we need more from O'Korn. Not turning it over on Saturday was big though.
October 15th, 2017 at 2:10 PM ^
...UM can win every game remaining on the schedule.
Punting is winning!
October 15th, 2017 at 3:19 PM ^
He might lead, but he's not asked to to much. I think he threw for less than 100 yards at Tennessee, for example, and the stuff he did throw was pretty basic.
That's not to say that we're secretly better, just that they're not having him light it up.
October 15th, 2017 at 9:48 PM ^
He's the highest rated passer in the SEC (13th nationally I believe), has the highest yards per attempt, and has a 4:1 TD/INT ratio. Sounds like a pretty good start so far no matter what the yardage is.
October 16th, 2017 at 1:51 AM ^
we have an elite defense and if we can run like we did against IU (not a terrible run defense!), we shouldn't have to ask JOK to do much. He obviously needs to be a lot better than 2.8 YPA or whatever, but he doesn't have to have a lot of yards or a lot of attempts. Just needs to be more efficient with the attempts he makes.
October 15th, 2017 at 1:57 PM ^
Just a guess, but I bet they have a better rush offense/OL than we do.
October 15th, 2017 at 2:00 PM ^
Kate Upton is lousy at asking guys out at bars.
Because she doesn't need to.
October 15th, 2017 at 2:04 PM ^
The twins do all the talking for her...
October 15th, 2017 at 2:57 PM ^
she is pretty good at it, even without any practice reps!
October 15th, 2017 at 2:01 PM ^
Difference is every time I watch Georgia, Fromm is hitting the PA pass after run run run for like 40 yards.
Our QB just missed Gentry and threw to double covered Crawford. If we hit a couple of PAs we can be very productive
October 15th, 2017 at 3:18 PM ^
Despite it being a bad decision, he put the ball in a spot Crawford could make a catch (not saying I have confidence he would) but he was blatently interfered with without a call.
The play would have almost certainly drawn a flag for Georgia, and for sure would have for bama.
Again, a bad decision to throw instead of looking at his second option, but he gave the wr a chance that the bama and goergia wr would catch most of the time if their arm is not being yanked behind his back.
October 15th, 2017 at 3:22 PM ^
You never get that call against blanket double coverage, and it was a poor throw. Crawford had a step that he had to give back (causing contact) when a ball that led him properly actually would have had a chance. Compare the Eubanks catch on basically the same play against Florida.
It might be an acceptable throw if the receiver has single coverage and is known to be able to win 50/50 passes. With Crawford and double coverage, just plain bad.
October 15th, 2017 at 3:44 PM ^
The contact was the corner grabbing his arm and tugging it behind his back, though. It was blatent and caused Crawford to turn that way.
The placement was crap, he needed to lead him. And, you are right, Crawford probably does not bail out O'Korn (which I think Georgia wr would, and am sure bama's would). But, that still needed to be called. Crawford could only go up with one hand because the other was forced behind his back. I just don't see that missed if hurts makes a bad decision to throw to Ridley and he gets his arm tugged so hard he gets turned and can't bring up two hands.
I guess my point is, the overthrow to the wide open fade to DJP is a better example. Fromm probably doesn't miss it so bad DPJ doesn't have a shot.
October 15th, 2017 at 4:14 PM ^
Refs never make that call when there is a second defender stepping in front of the the receiver, though. Guys can basically get tackled with no call if there is a defender in front.
Re: Fromme--he has overthrown his fair share of guys. But he's not asked to do much and has hit his fair share of guys dead on, too. If Michigan had a better OL I think we could go to a similar system of conservative, basic reads that whomever was under center could make and it could work. With the OL still not firmly established (and some distance from being great regardless) I don't think we can get away with that.
But yeah, Fromme probably would have hit that.
October 15th, 2017 at 4:38 PM ^
I would agree if it was a tight bracket, which it was not. The ball placement did cause the underneath guy to come into the play. But, in a game that had 4 or 5 defensive holding calls, missing that was bad. It was not like the pin happened as they were all going up for it. The hold happened as Crawford was trying to adjust to the ball and get in position to eventually jump. I think holding or pi, just called on bracket coverage that is not tight, and where a wr gets his hands pinned so bad you can only get one arm up.
The reason why I think Fromm or even hurts (who I feel is limited as a passer) makes that through us because if you throw almost any other ball except the ball O'Korn throw it's at least a catch. The frustrating thing is he has made good throws deep. In fact his throw to Black in the Florida game maybe the best throw of the year for Michigan QBs.
October 15th, 2017 at 3:42 PM ^
Double post.
October 16th, 2017 at 8:04 AM ^
While I agree that Crawford got pinned and probably warranted a flag, the bottom line is that O'Korn made the wrong read on that play. Hit the wide open Gentry and keep the drive moving. The issues I see with O'Korn is twofold: He seems to get impatient, wanting to hit the home run pass too often rather than settling for his safety read and he has a case of happy feet.
He looks like a player for whom the game hasn't slowed down for him yet, which at this point in his career, you have to question whether or not it ever will.
October 15th, 2017 at 2:02 PM ^
Getting up by 3 scores before the coffee has finished percolating also adds to this stat.
October 15th, 2017 at 2:07 PM ^
Alabama has one of the better passing offenses in the country. They just don’t have to use it.
If you watch them play, Hurts hits guys on time and has good awareness. Ridley is elite. But why throw when you can just plow everybody on the ground?
October 15th, 2017 at 3:24 PM ^
Hurts is a limited passer. If his first read is open he gets it out on time and usually accurately. O'Korn does the same, it gets iffy for both when the first read is covered.
Bama also has wr that will not drop multiple passes a game, like Mich has done
October 15th, 2017 at 2:13 PM ^
doesn't mean worst I would think. what's the proportion of pass plays to run compared to successful pass offenses?
October 15th, 2017 at 2:20 PM ^
YPG is a poor stat to use here. Neither of those teams has to throw the ball much so why would the have huge YPG? They do, however, have far more efficient passing offenses than M.
Yards per attempt:
Georgia #9 9.0 YPA
Alabama #35 8.0 YPA
Michigan #77 7.0 YPA
Passer Rating:
Georgia #13 158.20
Alabama #21 153.62
Michigan #110 114.41
QBR:
Alabama #16 76.4
Georgia #34 66.0
Michigan #111 37.0
http://www.cfbstats.com/2017/leader/national/team/offense/split01/categ…
http://www.espn.com/ncf/qbr/_/type/team-season