As my friend Squints Palladores said from Sandlot "FOR-EV-ER"
How long does Dantonio stay?
For some reason, I don't see him leaving MSU. Having said that, I wouldn't have seen Beilema leaving either.
I don't like him, but I think his loyalty to MSU is real. The only job I could imagine him leaving for is OSU...I didn't think Bielema would leave Wisconsin either, but I (gulp) respect and trust Dantonio more. I think his crazy, Michigan-hating passion is the genuine article.
His legacy will be one of consistent just above average with one Rose Bowl appearance(win?), but I think Dantonio is in for the long haul. I may hate him, but I kind of like having somebody to hate consistently in green.
an appearance in the Rose Bowl? Is this sarcasm? Are you predicting that at some point in the future, Dantonio takes MSU to the Rose Bowl? Huh?
Only if he buys them all tickets.
Do I think it is possible that if Dantonio stays at MSU for another 15 years that he could trip into a Big Ten title and go to the Grandaddy, sure I think it is possible.
would miss hating him. Plus his crazy Michigan quotes keep me laughing/motivated in the off-season.
Agree 100%. If he didn't have Michigan to face, there'd be no meaning in his life. I think he's a lifer at MSU. His grim, super-sensitive Michigan-hating passion fits perfectly with the mentality up in EL.
I also believe it's real and in the same way we love Hoke for doing it, it makes everything about the rivalry better. It's better when it's interesting. It wasn't fun when RR was here because he didn't "get it". Hoke and Dantonio both get it and are bound to make this game fun for a long time.
he won't stay longer than 2 more seasons at most, just seems like someone will come for him, he has done a nice job in E.L.
Sparty might try to get Treadwell back or promote narduzzi if it happens, wouldn't be a terrible thing for them as I felt like Treadwell did a great job for them while the scowler was having heart issues.
In two years, he will be 58 years old. For Dantonio to leave, it would have to be a step up from MSU (insert obvious joke here). I would be surprised to see a program in that tier knocking down the door for an older coach.
Edit: and this is why you read all comments.... otherwise you end up with a not so original thought..... (see Don's post below)
I would expect Narduzzi to get lured away before Dantonio, what with A&M pushing for him last year.
Dantonio is in any way a hot commodity.
the season A&M had i bet Narduzzi is kicking himself for not going
Sumlin's QBs tend to put up crazy numbers. He coached Case Keenum and OC'd some very good OU teams.
Can you imagine a Narduzzi coached defense with Texas-based speed and Johnny Football on the other side?
Texas . . . A&M might be scary.
are going to hire a 56-year-old guy with heart issues who's coming off of a 6-6 season. Who, on top of all that, has the personality of a large, inflamed hemorrhoid.
Didn't think about the age. Well that's still a good 10 years or so. Or, only 10 years left for Dantonio to win something. The personality can coach though haha.
you are wrong if you don't think that Dantonio has been a hot comodity. He has had 2 10+ wins at Michigan Staee(!), beat Georgia last year and is going to beat TCU this year. My guess is that if Arkansas is hiring Bielema, Dantonio is already spoken for.
He's "going to" beat TCU this year? I wouldn't put any money on that notion if I were you.....
Dantonio already spoken for?
It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that Beilema is a more attractive head coaching candidate than Mr. Personality himself, Mark Dantonio. As stated above, he is healthier, younger, and has 3 rose bowl bids to Dantonio's zero.
While you may not like the personality of a large, inflammed hemorrhoid, you can't fault its persistence at being a pain in....
...wait. That was too easy.
So he's off to Tennessee then?
He has a far better record than Saban at MSU who was 6-6 the year before he left.
wish Dantonio away. I want him to stay a long time. It's John Cooper time in this rivalry
Dantonio's days of ruling this rivalry are over. MSU is back to hoping for regional supremacy, something nobody in their right mind cares about anymore.
Dantonio's career ascendency was effectively ended once Meyer took the job at MSU. Dantonio never said so publicly, but you know wanted the job as Ohio's coach.
Definitely not the case if you followed the OSU search closely. Neither part was high on the other. Why would a coach with heart concerns take a HIGHER pressure job, and why would the school want to hire one when they could have had Urban Meyer? Dantonio was more of a gamble than about a dozen other coaches that would have taken the job at OSU.
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I hope he stays long enough to have a losing record against Michigan. Hopefully, that's three years.
it will not take long. marky mark's hatred for us is evident. His hatered will only grow as he loses recruits to us and ohio. Can you say "a-la nick saban"?
sparty will get caught in mediocrity for years and years to come. It will be a joy to watch them deflate and return to nothing-ness. They did get a little cocky for a second, but that time has come and gone. But sparty's gonna spart, what else can you say?
unnecessary roughness and crankiness will implode as the 11-2 mirages fade away in the next 2 years and a decisive talent gap vs UM re-emerges.
They have a few athletes still to cycle through but then they will struggle.
Bell, Allen, Lewis, Sims and Bullough will exit and take the toughness with them.
He's had crap recruiting classes consistently yet he's managed to amass those players and then new comers like Jones and Frederick. The only guy he's gotten that propelled their clas up the rankings has had his position changed from LB to FB.
As long as it takes for Michigan to win 6 in a row against him, so 2017.
The only ways Dantonio leaves MSU are if he retires there, gets fired, or OSU comes calling one day. He won't admit it, but I bet if Urban Meyer wasn't in the picture, he would have bolted for OSU in a heartbeat if they had asked him.
Dantonio only wants to coach in a place where he can play and have an attempt to beat Michigan on an annual basis, as well as in a place where he can effectively instill his pure hatred of all things Michigan. MSU and OSU are the only places that fit that bill, in my opinion.
I'm inclined to say that Dantonio's surge of MSU dominance is coming to an end, as he looks like he can't keep up with Meyer or Hoke on the recruiting trail, but man this guy can develop players. And he will always have his guys ready to go against Michigan, no matter what their record is. I don't see MSU going to a Rose Bowl anytime soon, but I don't see them going away, either. At least not as long as Dantonio is there.
Pretty much how I feel. They've almost always had 3 and occasional 4-star recruiting classes yet found a way to get the job done. They aren't better built for the long haul, but at least in the mean time I think they are and will remain competitive. Like another Iowa or Wisconsin program. They're decent with the occasional spurt of overachieving.
I will disagree about the OSU job though. Like was said earlier, he has made it clear to people that he doesn't want to move his family out of the area. He also hasn't given them any trouble when it comes to money, contracts, or getting the assistance (facilities, etc..) from their athletics department whenever it was needed. Him and Hollis seem to be on the same page all the time and with that comfort factor, and his limited time left in coaching, I just don't seem him uprooting and going anywhere else.
I hate that guy.
To see him twitch after many average years on the horizon for him. Pride before the Fall. What Threat? Lol
Until Spurrier is done. He has a shot to come back to his alma mater.
I can't see Dantonio ever leave MSU. His age and health are a factor, but I view his drive as a competitor to be the main reason he'll stay in East Lansing. There is no doubt that their program is much better than it has been in recent memory under his leadership. Regardless of how some people around here view Sparty's reccent success as luck, Dantonio has done a great job in making MSU a relavant team in the B1G for the past few seasons. However, he hasn't been able to get that elusive Rose Bowl appearance. Until he gets that, I don't think he'll be personally satisfied with the job he's done at MSU and will keep him there for at least the time it takes to get to Pasadena.
Good post. I agree. He's a lifer at MSU. His assistants however will continue to get picked off the entire time. Next up: Narduzzi. There will be a full fledged Dantonio coaching tree growing in Lansing before he leaves.
Barring sanctions of course.
Who cares. He's gonna get his ass beat year after year by Michigan and he'll be forced out.
Dantonio has a done a wonderful job of recruiting intergalactically and MSU is really just a stepping stone for him. I can see him leaving for the Mars State fighting Martians job.
Exactly. The guy is a god in east Lansing. To beat Michigan four times in a row after losing six years in a row, he's set for good. They're never going to compete for a national title and they know that.
He is 4-2. In 4 years he could easily be 5-5. And they'll be screaming for his head. Cuz sparty gonna spart.
It's possible he gets pushed out at some point. He set an unrealistically high bar with the 10 win seasons. Spary fans honestly expect him to be right there with us and Ohio. There was a good bit of unhappiness this season.
You didn't consult Ohio
I think he has 4-5 years left, the health and family issues will keep him from staying for a decade +
question around here is how much longer does Izzo stay or have?
His kingdom is crumbling, won't be hard to say goodbye and hello to the NBA if Michigan starts dominating in-state basketball again.
It seems a bit premature to claim Izzo's "kingdom is crumbling."
But I don't have a problem stating that Michigan has closed the gap with MSU in basketball. Given the improvement in facilities and the associated uptick in recruiting that has brought, I don't think Izzo is going to be quite the dominant force in the conference he was for the first decade of the century.
Playing devil's advocate, the same could be said for MSU football "closing the gap" with us.. they've put a lot of money into facilities, the stadium upgrades, and now even more money coming with their upcoming expansion/stadium recruiting facility. Like you said below, 22-4, bowl win, etc etc.. I'm not saying they're better by any means, just that they're competitive now.
No doubt that Dantonio has made MSU more competitive, but for all the money that MSU has poured into football, it hasn't translated into recruiting prowess. Dantonio's MSU looks a lot like Perles MSU and as good a coach as George Perles was, he could only manage a win every 3 or 4 years against MIchigan pace.
Michigan's investment in basketball, in contrast, has shown almost immediate returns in the quality of players that Beilein has brought in. I expect to that Izzo's stranglehold on the top of the conference is going to start to loosen over the next decade (if he stays that long).
If Dantonio starts pulling in Top 15 classes annually, I'll start to worry. Until then, I expect Paul Bunyan to reside in Ann Arbor most seasons. Bottom line, historically speaking, when the Michigan football program has it's shit together, MSU can't compete.
Michigan football has it's shit together.
...at Tennessee. And UT likes their coaches to be unimaginative, stone-aged, and thuggish. To better identify with their fans (and their players), of course.
So yeah, I'm sure they've already tendered him an offer.
It's no secret that he loves it at MSU and they don't expect much more than he can provide. It's a good relationship. He is on the record saying he and his family are happy and they don't want to move again. Unless these 6-win seasons keep up and the fans oust him, I just don't see him leaving. And he has enough fans already endeared to him to stay for a long time.
Odds of him being there in 2014: 100%.
Dantonio went 22-4, won a shared conference championship and won a bowl game over two seasons and garnered absolutely zero buzz from programs across the country looking for a coaching replacement. That pretty much tells you all you need to know about Dantonio's stock among upper tier college football programs.
Mid-to-late 50s with a heart problem. Dantonio isn't going anywhere until such time that his record against Michigan slides back to sub .500 and his teams are consistently finishing with 6-8 wins and out of the conference championship game. By that point his embarrassing public outbursts and the annual player discipline mishap will suddenly become very important to the Spartan rank and file.
Actually, he's already spoken:
" It's not over. It'll never be over here. It's just starting... I'm going to be a coach here for a long time. It's not over. It's just starting."
Pride Before The Storm Speach
Should be a good rivalry for a while.
Pride before the storm?