How to Beat Ohio State

Submitted by trustBlue on December 2nd, 2019 at 10:47 AM

Justin Fields is right. The rivalry means more to OSU than it does to Michigan. I think we all know it's true.

But let's be clear: Its not about willingness to work hard. I am certain that our coaches and our players work as many hours and work every bit as hard as their guys. 

But their entire program, athletic department, and university is built to grind out every possible advantage for their football team. 

At every level, there is a willingness to do things that we simply are not willing to do, whether due to pride, ego, or the belief that there are things simply more important than football. 

Here's a list of thing we COULD do to beat Ohio State, but probably won't:

(1) Hire Urban Meyer. Yes, we all throw up in our collective mouths to even consider the thought. But would it work? Probably, yes.

Most of us are too proud to "admit defeat" by turning around and hiring Urban Meyer, but would OSU do it if the tables were turned? Almost certainly, the answer is yes.

This is not going to happen, but lets at least acknowledge that there are obvious things like this that we simply refuse to do out of pride, and that's inevitably a big part of the reason why OSU is better than us at football.

 

(2) Ignore academics

We work just as hard at chasing 4-5 star recruits, but OSU and most other elite programs are also willing to do things that we do not, like:

(a) Taking JUCOs

(b) Bringing in players who are not academically prepared for college and letting them skip class or take online classes.

(c) Aggresively pursuing non-grad transfers and challenging the NCAA to deny them immediate ineligiblity

(d) Keeping the kind of players that Michigan has dismissed for academic or behavior reasons (Brian Cole, Kareem Walker, etc.)

I'm not talking about paying players or cheating (we'll get to that), but OSU gets the best football players it can get period - not the best players who also happen to be good students.

Michigan's academic reputation is an advantage with some recruits, but the lack of flexibility definitely hurts us.

 

(3) Build the team around offense

We've been slow to adapt to the reality that the NCAA is now an offensive league.

This isn't the era when you can score 21 points against good teams and 40 against bad teams. OSU puts up 50+ on over half of the teams that it plays. It puts up 60-70+ points a couple times a year. Ryan Day is probably trying to figure out how to get that number to over 80.

Bringing in Gattis is starting to show some promise, but we are still behind in offensive mindset. The way we squander two minute drills at the end of a half, or the way we try to nurse small leads for 30 minutes, still feels like Harbaugh expects to win games 28-10 rather than 52-35.

OSU runs up the score even when they don't have to. This is smart because:

(a) The "eye test" matters when it comes to the playoffs. Beating a team by 45 looks better than cruising to an easy 10 point win.

(b) You get better at offense by running your offense, not by turtling up and running out the clock. Fields is confident in his ability to run to his left and make an off balance pass for a TD 30 yards down the field because he's had chances to take those kinds of shots all year.

(c) 5 star QBs and receivers want to come put up big yards and big points and pile up the kind of stats that win Heismans, not punt the ball for the entire second half.

People will complain about Don Brown and that's fine, but there is a much smaller gap between OSU's #1 ranked defense and our current defense, than their offensive capacity and ours.

 

(4) Fix Scheduling

We consistently shoot ourselves in the foot with scheduling.

We play 3 rivalry games a year. OSU plays one.

We waste off season practices prepping to play Air Force/Army or some other triple option team just so we can turn around and get run over by Wisconsin a week later.

We get stuck preparing for trap-game Indiana every year the week before the Game.

There was a recent thread about moving The Game to earlier in the season. That would probably better for us because, frankly, OSU has a better record of improving throughout the course of the season and seems to spend more time throughout the year preparing for The Game.

But again, we'll refuse to do something that might level the playing field even a little bit since that would mean "admitting defeat." Pride comes both before and after the fall I guess.

At the very least get rid of Army/Air Force/triple option teams, schedule a low P5 tomato can to replace ND, move Indiana to earlier in the year, and insert Maryland or Rutgers to the week before the Game.

 

(5) Sell out everything for The Game

Tressel built the entire identity of his program around beating Michigan. Not winning the Big Ten or a national championship - beating Michigan.

In the 2007 edition of The Game, Tressel broke every tendency of his Tressel-ball offense by adding spread elements to his offense (after our defense was exposed against the spread by App State and Oregon). MSU always empties their playbook against us with all manner of trick plays every year.

We always talk about Harbaugh "saving plays" for OSU, but I dont think we've ever shown up with anything remotely surprising (please dont count the "swinging gate" for a failed extra point play, or the ridiculous Pepcat stuff).

One thing I thought Hoke did well was always his teams always showed up against OSU even in the bad years. We always seemed to keep something in the tank for OSU no matter what, and I haven't see that under Harb(augh. We try to play them "straight up" every year and I'm not sure how you can win that way given the talent gap.

Get rid of everything that doesn't help you beat OSU. No more 3 "rivals" - OSU is the only rival that matters. Start practicing for The Game on first day of practice. Don't schedule service acadamies or anything else that takes away preparation for OSU. Dedicate both bye weeks to exclusively to OSU prep. Install an entire secret OSU playbook with plays exclusively dedicated to the Game. Install a secret triple option offense or some other quirk that catches them by surprise. You get the picture.

It may cost us a game or two to someone else, but the tradeoff is worth it to steal even an occassional win against OSU.

 

(6) Lie, cheat, steal.

Cheating happens in big time sports. The Houston Astros were recently caught stealing opposing teams' signals. Belicheck was fined $500,000 after he was caught filming opposing teams. Yes, this is probably a bridge too far, but I bet you Urban Meyer and Ryan Day think about this stuff when they lie awake at night.

I'm not going to get into paying players or PEDs. I have no insight into who get paid for what. Maybe we do it too, but if either team has an advantage here, its certainly not in our favor. Im also sure that every team including Michigan has players that dabble with PEDs, but I have seen enough players fail to gain weight (Drake Harris comes to mind) to feel confident that there's no instututional push toward PEDs that you might find at other progams.

There are also a bunch of things we could do that might not technically be illegal, but would probably be distateful. I'm thinking like sending someone undercover to give cash to an OSU player while secretly getting evidence on camera. Or hiring someone to follow players and try to catch them smoking weed, etc. Again we're not going to do any of this stuff, but you don't think this doesn't happen in the SEC all the time? You don't think that OSU has fans or boosters trying to do this stuff to our players?

 

(7) Being Realistic

As a said in the beginning, I don't expect that we'll do any of this stuff. We're not going to start paying players or taking JUCOs. We're not going to hire Urban Meyer.

However, I would like to see at a minimum:

(a) Go after transfers aggresively. I dont undersand why we would settle for having obvious holes in our roster while OSU can make a mockery of the NCAA's undergrad transfer rules. We should have had a transfer DT this year. We have a lot of holes to fill at CB going forward. There's absolutely no reason why we should not go after 3-4 transfers a year. Otherwise we're simply going to get beat by OSU on recruiting AND on transfers.

(b) Push for name and likeness rights for players. This is by far the best thing we can do reduce the advantage for teams who pay their players under the table.

(c) No more service academies. Have i mentioned this a few times already? Lets find some other way to support the troops, but no more triple option teams.

(d) Stop expecting to win games 28-10. Its not the 90s anymore. 55-35 is the new normal.

(e) Maybe run ONE thing that you save for OSU or that breaks tendency ffs.

amaizenblue402

December 2nd, 2019 at 10:54 AM ^

Can we be done with the hot takes, please? Tired of this shit. Same movie, year after year. 

It's time we move on to basketball season.

Dr. Detroit

December 2nd, 2019 at 3:35 PM ^

Someone needs to finish this photoshop & put a dildo in his fist.

If all these Urbz fanboys should somehow get their wish, I would be done watching Michigan football until they would once again get a coach I could respect.

I also have a feeling that when it comes to the NCAA, they may look the other way when Ohio cheats... but this guy coaching Michigan would likely bring major sanctions in a few years.

MRunner73

December 2nd, 2019 at 12:00 PM ^

I'll defend the post; he's very passionate about Michigan. What's wrong with that? Many of his points are good but not all. 

Bottom line: OSU has no less than three Heisman candidates on the roster- QB Fields, Running back: Dobbins and Defense Young. Michigan in 2020 would need a late season Heisman QB like either McCaffrey or Milton, the running back Haskins and maybe Cam McGrone of Dax Hill. Will that happen?-Probably not

theytookourjobs

December 2nd, 2019 at 12:37 PM ^

The people that waste an hour or 2 of their lives coming up with complete nonsense.  While the OP was listing things we could do like hire Urban, or ignore academics, why not add equally likely ideas such as infecting the entire OSU team with the bubonic plague, or invent a time machine to prevent the 2006 game from happening.  It's just silly

Buckeye9Strong

December 3rd, 2019 at 8:25 AM ^

You elitist bunch of inbreds. It’s nonsense like this and what the OP had to say that make your whole fan base look pathetic and lost. This is what UM football had become??? If you don’t think any football players at EatShitAgain aren’t taking Online Classes you either delusional or stupid. Plus UM offers a ton of Online courses now...welcome to 2019. The players that go to the Michigan arent like the rest of the students...the spend most of their time practicing, working out, traveling, playing football. The isolate themselves in that football factory like every other major program in the country.

Then to talk shit about a kid that had offers to both Harvard and Yale...Yeah, you elitist morons couldn’t buy a credit from establishments like that. This is what’s wrong...never in the history has this program and fan base made so many excuses...as if somehow your academic standards applies to your football team. Gfto and tell me I’m wrong...but with posts like this you don’t deserve to have a football team. 

Tom25

December 2nd, 2019 at 10:58 AM ^

Hire a team psychologist, or bring in Focus 3 and Tim Kight to train team on E + R = O, like Urban did 5 years ago. Oklahoma uses this approach now too. The mental lapses and unforced errors were the most glaring on Saturday. Looked like some of our seniors, and underclass men, were not in the right state of mind to play well. 

M-B Devil Dog

December 2nd, 2019 at 11:11 AM ^

this, I have said for a few years we need a team psychologist because our team and coaches look like a golfer with the yips. We are talented and can compete but the level of mental mistakes we make are just mind boggling. We can't overlook the "shoe removal" the super late hit, all that does is solidify in their minds they own us when we have to resort to crap like that to try and win. 

 

Secondly forget Urban Meyer, he has already said and been on record saying it won't happen, he is not going to come coach for us. at all, period

Sideline

December 2nd, 2019 at 12:19 PM ^

Michigan doesn’t NEED Urban Meyer. 

Quick little insert of useless information: 

When Coach Harbaugh took over the University of Michigan’s football team... he had a recruiting class coming in ranking 37th(?) nationally to Ohio State’s 7th and (#1 in the conference to Michigan’s #5. 

Since that time, Ohio State has had the top class in the conference, and top-5 nationally, to Michigan’s borderline Top-10 classes...until 2019. Where Michigan brought in the best class in conference, 8th Nationally (to Ohio State’s 14th). 

Coach Harbaugh inherited an absolute mess. Immediately started winning 10-games a year (minus one year— where a good portion of the team was composed of the 2014 and 2015 recruiting classes) and has stabilized everything since. The guy deserves 7-years minimum (RR+Hoke) to at least put this back to where Michigan was with Lloyd Carr. 

If Jim Harbaugh is 2-5 against the buckeyes in two years, are we going to fire another coach and start this cycle over? Impatience is what got this fan base to where it is, you’d think people would learn from the past. 

globalmodernwarfare

December 2nd, 2019 at 2:02 PM ^

I hate to be the bearer of bad news but the reason Michigan’s class was 8 and OSU was 14 in 2019 was because of number of players. 26 compared to 17. Going by numbers. Michigan players averaged 90.78 and OSU averaged 91.87. Still gap for that year closed some, but it isn’t as simple as team rankings because that goes by total points not average of guys you get. 

wolve1972

December 2nd, 2019 at 2:59 PM ^

Exactly and why is it so hard for some to figure that out. Michigan had 9 or 10 more scholarships to give out - we better finish with a higher TOTAL ranking. The only true way to compare recruiting is by a 4 or 5 year total because of the light numbers in some classes and if you do that, it's not close.  The 2017 OSU class (we saw the results on Saturday) was the highest rated class ever (94.29 - just mind boggling) in 247 Sports Composite history and their 2018 class was right behind that one. In fact, if you look at the link, PSU has even out recruited UM with a higher 5-year total with 6 less recruits - pretty significant. 

https://247sports.com/Season/2019-Football/CollegeTeamTalentComposite/

zapata

December 2nd, 2019 at 2:39 PM ^

https://www.craigcalcaterra.com/blog/just-say-no-to-e-r-o

 

Love this article. Good spoiler alert - it takes a sociologically conscious look at ERO as a motivational tool and ends with (essentially) "Urban Meyer? Fuck that guy."

And apropos of our discussion here, we could say that yeah, ERO works for Urban and OSU because they have some inherent, structural advantages over M (as Brian points out). Fuck ERO, and fuck Urban Meyer.

Bando Calrissian

December 2nd, 2019 at 10:59 AM ^

There are plenty of schools you could cheer for that do exactly this. Why do you want Michigan to change everything about its program to be something you can just as easily find somewhere else?

Maize N' Ute

December 2nd, 2019 at 11:55 AM ^

Everyone on this board has resigned to the fact that Michigan will not beat OSU anytime soon, I'm merely giving us another option to keep us from getting pounded every year.

Michigan is never going to beat OSU because of Harbaugh, but the Cult of Harbaugh keeps saying we can't do any better, so what's the point?  The AD isn't interested in winning.  They keep getting that $$$ from an overrated product, so why do they care?  Country Club mindset is in full effect at Michigan.  That will never change.

The Mad Hatter

December 2nd, 2019 at 11:00 AM ^

This year Wisconsin held OSU under 40; MSU under 35; Penn State under 30.

Last year MSU, Washington, Penn State, and fucking Purdue held them under 30.

The defense is a problem.

As for a general loosening up of the rules athletes have to live by, I'm fine with it.  We have to change something when you sign the #5 class and then two years later it's actually the #15 class because so many have left the team (willingly or not).

 

The Mad Hatter

December 2nd, 2019 at 3:02 PM ^

I don't know if there is a site that does it, but someone posted something about it here recently.  They may have done the numbers themselves.  IIRC he looked at out two best classes in the Harbaugh era and they dropped around 10 spots due to early exits for whatever reasons.

 

UPMichigan

December 2nd, 2019 at 11:04 AM ^

Football is a mental game, as well as physical. Our guys always act like we're down 14-0 before kickoff. We never play a full 60 minutes, we actually get behind and we give up. There's no mental strength in our teams. 

Alumnus93

December 2nd, 2019 at 11:04 AM ^

All we need is four upperclass Mo Hurst types at DT,  a few seniors and a few juniors or redshirt sophomores... and upperclassmen Hutchinson on DE,... as in, a proper DL... we don't have that... now we have to wait until Hinton and Mazi become upperclassmen.   Any grad transfer we get won't be worthwhile because if they were of proper standard, they'd be going the pros instead..so only option right now to improve quickly is to find a few JUCO DT that are of high quality, which is probably unlikely there even are any.   This was epic personnel failure on the DL.... how it gets past Mattison, Brown, Harbaugh, and even that personnel analyst we pay on staff, is beyond me...   only explanation is we were in on alot of top players, who ended up taking the bag, and we lose on our plan B guys who went elsewhere.

chunkums

December 2nd, 2019 at 11:06 AM ^

I seriously think just having good defensive tackles would have made this a tight game. We need to recruit and develop a destructive DL and otherwise stay the course. In 2016 and 2017 we had really good DTs and we were able to slow down the OSU attack enough to make it a game. In 2017 they had the #3 SP+ offense. This year our offense was good enough to carve up the #1 defense in the nation in the first half before miscues put us in a deep hole and we were in desperation mode. It should have been 24-28 or better going into halftime between the fumble and the offsides call (which was on the post-fumble drive).

Bo Harbaugh

December 2nd, 2019 at 11:34 AM ^

Not serviceable....but dominant.

A dominant front 4 can neutralize any offense.  Bama, Clemson, OSU have had this.

We finally have a good O-line (Thanks Warriner).  Need guys like Mo Hurst and Brandon Graham in the middle every year.

How did the Giants nearly ruin New England's perfect regular season and then go on to ruin their perfect season in the Super Bowl...D-line distrupted one of the best offenses and QB's in NFL history.  They played twice...ie, the Super Bowl was no fluke (despite the fluke Tyree catch), both games were close.

1VaBlue1

December 2nd, 2019 at 11:44 AM ^

Bullshit.  Mone could barely keep his place on the field, and all he was asked to do was hold his place.  Dwumfour was a distinct liability against the run.  Neither was very good at pass rushing (Dwumfour wasn't half bad, but it's easy to play around that).  OSU was able to easily double up both Gary and Winovich last year and completely stop any, and all, pass rush while running up the middle at will.

This year, the best DL we had was four DE's maintaining gap integrity when the pocket eventually collapsed.  That happened regularly against teams that had one (or two) WR threats and no real running threat.  It didn't collapse at all against OSU - Fields had all day to wait until someone got open.

You're BS whining about coaches is not based in reality.  Holes in on-field talent can be glossed over against MSU and PSU.  Not so much against the death stars of CFB.