Holland deals Datsyuk's contract

Submitted by uncle leo on

To Arizona. Basically traded picks, and Holland was able to get rid of the 7.5M contract.

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SWPro

June 25th, 2016 at 11:25 AM ^

smaller market teams sometimes have a problem making a profit even at the cap floor.

 

if they feel they can field (ice?) a competitive team at $7.5M under the floor (due to having a lot of young players on entry level contracts for example) they will absorb a "free" cap hit in exchange for picks or giving away actual money they have to pay.

 

getting a big free agent is money they have to spend in the future. spending that money could bankrupt the team.

 

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Meson

June 25th, 2016 at 1:07 PM ^

In this case the coyotes also unloaded someone injured. Detroit has to pay his salary but it doesn't count against the cap. So this saves Phoenix that entire salary, which I think was around $5M a year, and Ilitch has plenty of extra cash to pay the injured player.

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Clarence Beeks

June 25th, 2016 at 2:24 PM ^

Because they just needed the boost to the cap floor in the very short term. This move gets them there for this next year while preserving cap space in the (slightly) longer term (when they will need it to sign several RFAs). Any UFA would have filled the cap floor need, but also would have come at the expense of term (any UFA with a hit that high would be looking for high money and as long of a term as possible). Coyotes are a team awash in prospect talent, and they will have to resign key pieces of that within the term of any plausible UFA contract, which would mean they wouldn't have the space to do it. It's a lot like the situation Tampa Bay is facing (re-sign Stamkos and lose several key other young players or lose Stamkos and sign all the rest - with the difference being that any $7.5M hit that the Coyotes might sign wouldn't be of the quality of Stamkos). Brilliant move by Coyotes' GM, really.



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SWPro

June 25th, 2016 at 11:28 AM ^

Understanding zona's situation this is a good trade for both.

 

The wings pick up a $1.1M contract in actual money. Won't hit against the cap cause he will likely be in the minors all season but it still has to be paid.

 

Zona won't be anywhere near the cap at any point this season so the dats contract is free to them.

 

To zona this deal looks like

 

Get:

16th pick

$1.1M in free money

 

Give

20th pick

54th pick

 

That's not bad for them.

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JClay

June 24th, 2016 at 10:27 PM ^

Major fleecing. In exchange for dropping down 4 spots (and to be fair, there was a fantastic prospect who fell to 16), Arizona threw in a second rounder, took datsyuks contract off our hands, and sent us another player we'll immediately LTIR. Stunning.



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uncle leo

June 24th, 2016 at 11:07 PM ^

The move gives the Red Wings the cap space needed to make a pitch for center Steven Stamkos in free agency on July 1, if he doesn't re-sign with the Tampa Bay Lightning. The Red Wings are all-in on Stamkos and are expected to offer him a maximum seven-year deal, perhaps for as much as $70 million.

Is it really that far-fetched?

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clarkiefromcanada

June 24th, 2016 at 11:53 PM ^

My name is clarkiefromcanada

I am sorry I don't have your Detroit myopia when it comes to Stamkos or all things hockey. I just don't see it happening. Family is from Toronto, Leafs can figure it cap wise, he's a fit with Matthews coming in and the endorsement money in Toronto would far exceed anything he could make in any other market. Connect the dots.

It's not difficult to see him in Toronto if (and this is a big if even he goes FA) he just doesn't just ultimately renew for a boatload of money in Tampa.

Remember when your former coach wasn't ever going to Toronto either? I read a year of posts about that. Of course, your team is way better with the new guy, right?

This Shanahan/Lamoriello/Hunter regime is not the old Leafs and I would not discount them.

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clarkiefromcanada

June 25th, 2016 at 12:00 AM ^

Do you really think it's static with Shanahan/Lamoriello/Hunter running the deal going forward?

It's not unlike the scenario when Michigan got Hackett (and made Brandon leave, for which, as a season ticket holder I am eternally grateful). Competence replaced incompetence.

You do win for effective smart remark. So well played on that.

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clarkiefromcanada

June 25th, 2016 at 12:50 AM ^

Mark Hunter

If you follow Junior hockey at all in Canada you know his capacity in assessing talent among the juniors and bringing them to London. At a talent evaluation level, Hunter is legit (a quick look at London Knights draft picks since he's owned that team is pretty compelling). This should translate to the next level.

Lamoriello is the real deal and has the rings to prove it. Shanahan, to me, is actually more of the wild card in that whole mix. Where Hunter is proven in Juniors and Lamoriello is proven in the league Shanahan was just a very solid player (not much of a character guy according to Craig Janney...)

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clarkiefromcanada

June 25th, 2016 at 12:50 PM ^

Wings have had so much success and yet, there I was last year, sitting up front for an original 6 opponent. Bought my tickets day of game and without issue. 

Great teams but the support is front runner. #truth

Leafs been bad since '93 but the support remains. I wonder how you'll frame it when the Leafs are winning?

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McSomething

June 25th, 2016 at 2:10 PM ^

When they actually finally start winning, then talk. Leafs fans have been talking about winning being right around the corner since I was a kid. That was before the Wings started winning Cups again. Being a consistent playoff team, division titles, conference top seed, Presidents' trophies, conference finals, Stanley Cup appearances, Stanley Cup wins. It has been so long since any of that applied to Toronto that it is hilarious when Leafs fans talk shit to anyone. Your franchise has done jack shit since expansion in 1968. Win something. Seriously, this would be like a Minnesota football fan talking shit. Yeah, they have something like 7 national titles. But the last one was how far back?

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clarkiefromcanada

June 25th, 2016 at 4:03 PM ^

I can get tickets to any game in Detroit easy. 

I attended games at the Joe in the 80's Reed Larson era also. It was even easier then but the same concept applies. 

It's a front runner fanbase. I guess that happens when you make the playoffs all the time. 

We'll see how things go with the Leafs. Remind me in a year if I'm wrong.

 

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Jack Hammer

June 25th, 2016 at 12:18 AM ^

Can't argue those points but I was surprised this past season by the extended Wings fandom. I live in Seattle so I travel to see the Wings. In Vancouver, it seemed like there were over a third of the fans wore Red Wing jerseys. And in Calgary it was less but still prominent. Obviously the Wings have been pretty decent the past 25 years, but I was still pleasantly surprised at our representation.

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