and I am in favor now
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and I am in favor now
I like it even more now. U have to change with the times.
and I think it's been a great improvement to the facility in all kinds of ways.
The only thing I really miss is driving out-of-Towners by the Stadium and have them utter an incredulous "That's it!?!" Because they all expect a giant above ground stadium, then taking them inside and seeing their faces. as a native A2 kid, i cant remember my first time there because i was too young. but if you have ever brought a newbie to a game, you know what I mean.
That and the Halo...jk.
That was exactly my response when I went to my first game as a high schooler. Walking from the west and seeing that small chunk sticking up I was very underwhelmed... When I got into the stadium and looked down I was blown away.
I absolutely love the additions to the stadium. I feel the suites opposite of the press box finishes things out nicely.
My first game was when I was at grad school at Michigan. We drove past it the night before. It looked even more podunk at night.
Then the day of the game, we walked up to it and it was still no big deal. But then when I walked through the entrance portal all I saw was and absolute ocean of people. I was stunned. Chills.
I was in favor then and am very happy with how things turned out. The Big House used to sneak up on you as you were driving into town. Not any longer. The Big House combined with the video boards combined with the Crisler Center renovation really created a unified look to the athletic campus, and serve as a strong selling point for the University.
I like the looks of it now. And I like how it's a louder environment.
And I like that we're keeping ahead of those lousy rat bastards who had the audacity to increase their capacity over 100,000. Yeah, I'm looking at you Penn State, Ohio State, Tennessee and Alabama.
The Big House used to sneak up on you as you were driving into town.
The one minor thing I'll miss is taking someone to a game who's never been in the Big House. Approaching the stadium there was always a sort of "What's the big deal?" attitude. Then that first moment walking through in when the vast stadium opens up ... that usually produced a moment of silence, then ... "Wow."
I feel the exact same way. I remember going to my first game and being disappointed about the stadium until I walked out into the stands. I miss it now that I bring buddies over for their first games and they see the stadium from a mile away.
I got chills reading that last part and remembering my first Michigan football game and experiencing that exact feeling.
I really don't see how anyone could be against making the Big House... bigger.
What is this HALO everyone is speaking of? Forgive my ignorance.
Words cannot describe the horror that was the halo. Use your Google.
NO. I don't like talking about it and I don't like talking about why.
Let's go bigger!
I've said this plenty of times on here but what we have now is not the endgame.
I have a couple friends who are stadium ushers and in their annual meeting with Dave Brandon before the season he said that plans are being drawn up for an upper deck in the South endzone to take the capacity to above 120,000.
The Big House is beautiful. It definitely needed a facelift at the end of 2007. And it was even more evident in 2009 when I went on a tour and saw some of the decaying parts.
Still though, part of me has a bit of sadness when I look at the large picture of Old Michigan Stadium on my wall. By Old Michigan Stadium, I refer to it in the years 1927-2007.
New Michigan Stadium is a completely new building to me. Someday if I am fortunate enough to have kids, they're going to look at that picture and laugh because it looks so bare.
Seeing that overhead shot of the stadium in 1997 vs ohio just makes me kinda....homesick I guess is the word.
Man, that Lycoming - W Maryland game was an instant classic. So close throughout.
Well it was in the first half. West Maryland really broke it open in the second half...
Lycoming actually came from behind and rolled to victory: http://articles.baltimoresun.com/1997-11-23/sports/1997327140_1_defreita...
Thought of making a comment, then saw I wasn't the only one whose attention was caught by it. I find it funny that whenever I see classic broadcast footage or video, the first thing I always do is look at the scores and rankings of other games/teams. Glad to see that I'm probably not the only one.
Aesthetically, I love the new stadium. It is truly a collosseum. And I love what Hoke and Co. is doing for the program. I don't think a national championship is at all beyond our reach. But we're officially in a new era of college football where kids aren't just coming to Michigan for the same reasons we did. Nowadays, the kids aren't going to come to Michigan simply because they want to be part of its tradition. Instead, they want more tangible things, like facilities - weight rooms, and stylish new arenas and stadiums.
I wonder - did these things always matter as much to recruits in years past?
Definitely not in the old days.
Today we have Schembechler Hall. But lets go back in time....
I give you, the Ferry Field Club House. And yes that square thing with the M on it in front of the Club House was the scoreboard.
Tomorrow I'm actually heading over to Ferry Field and getting a strip of sod to freeze dry since they're tearing it out in a couple years and making it a parking lot.
I'm not in town anymore, could you grab me a 1x1 sqf of sod? I will pay for shipping and throw a few bucks at you.
Yours is one of the ones I appreciate the most. I love seeing these old photos, how many external hard drives and things you have to store it all, and how you keep track of it, must be quite impressive and worth it.
Seeing that overhead shot of the stadium in 1997 vs ohio just makes me kinda....homesick I guess is the word.
Even the patchy, brown spots of the natural turf that would never properly take root and was alway half dead by the end of the season? I have a lot of nostalgia for the old place too, but getting rid of that natural grass was a good thing.
I think they did a really classy job. (So many stadiums are form follows function with ugly stairs and ramps hanging off the sides.)
We also needed to modernize - the same with Crisler. Short of paying the athletes the only way to keep up in the arms race is to keep the facilities up with the Joneses.
I don't miss the ugly old pressbox at all. The Michigan Stadium letters up on top were the only thing worth saving there.
However, I have to say it is a different feeling sitting in a canyon,
than a bowl
you feel enclosed, and less out in the broader world (and elements). (Of course the view of Crisler's roof was nothing to write home about.)
There is the loss of the first impression as described above (like when you walk up to the rim of the Grand Canyon the first time), and the communal "for three hours on Saturday we are all just coming together as common Michigan fans" thing. Of course the latter never was the case - our betters were being fleeced -- I mean entertained -- up in the box before. Now we just have that many more (and more opulent) milk machines available. (Mixed metaphors, I know.)
I have never been to the Rose Bowl (c'mon Team 134!), but I imagine it is going through a similar transformation in feel (http://www.rosebowl-renovation.com/). While not as classic by any means from the outside
The field view is improved over the old structure:
And the still only have boxes on one side.
But I am having a hard time seeing further expansion as a good thing. The economy in Michigan is still very sluggish and I have a hard time believing they could sell 11,000 more tickets to every game. Especially with the continued improvement of the home viewing experience. Unless these will be used as a cheap way to give tickets to recent alums, however i doubt any new seats will discounted in any way.
If he thinks the economics support it, go for it I guess. But the last thing I'd want to see is them spend a bunch of money for seats that will either be empty or (worse) occupied by Ohio fans.
But their ticket pricing strategies don't seem to support the idea that further expansion is realistic anytime soon. I'm not sure the demand is there to go to 120,000, not at the prices they're charging now.
I think it's outstanding. I remember friends razzing me about it being the biggest and claiming it wasn't that impressive in real life. Though I certainly disagreed with them, I'm very happy with the changes and truly wouldn't mind wrapping the bowl to meet the video boards.
The plans were pretty cool then and they look really nice fully implemented. As awesome as the traditional atmosphere was, Michigan Stadium pre-2008 was already physically obsolete in many regards. Even when they set forth on the project, it was made clear from the beginning, as I recall, that each step of the process would add to the positive nature of the fan experience, be financially responsible and be of appropriate quality (along with some other things, like laying the groundwork for future expansion, if so desired, ADA compliance and other niceties). I believe they have achieved that here and then some really.
and the expansion for an upper deck is a great idea to stay # 1 in attendance and keeping the noise in the stadium so it can be more intimidating for foes, it was badly needed and like was said before, you gotta keep up witht the times if you want to be/stay the Leaders and Best!!!
Hi family issues if serious get resolved first. Family is #1 which michigan men should know.
2. I don't care when he visits as long as he does.
3. If he doesn't come this weekend (and I do hope his family is fine) it may be a blessing in disguise, would love him to be in campus with peppers and or hand.
but I'm for it now. The current changes are pretty nice and I think it did really help keep the noise in the stadium. I feel like it's much less of a library now than it was 5 or 6 years ago
I had a couple of major objections:
The big thing that I was unconcerned about: "Luxury." Remember, the really big objection were all of the crunchy Birkenstock-wearing members of the Ninety-nine Percent who objected to any "luxury" seating at all. That's like 89% of Ann Arbor, right? They didn't want two classes of ticketholders in any way, shape or form.
I changed my overall views overnight, in one meeting with Bill Martin and the Victors Club in the Junge Center. Martin was completely brilliant, with one of the best powerpoint presentations I have ever seen. He had the architects, and the planners. He quoted Bo Schembechler, and it is nearly true to say that Bo's dying wish was to get the Stadium expansion and renovation completed. The entire presentation was pure mastery. The University of Michigan will forever be in Bill Martin's debt for his management of the Stadium and the other physical improvements of the athletic campus. Arguably, Fielding Yost's greatest legacy was not the point-a-minute teams (although I don't think I'd argue that); rather, it was Michigan Stadium. Bill Martin ought to rank alongside Old Man Yost in that regard.
Everybody thinks about seating, and perhaps about crowd noise. Those are lesser concerns. The really big things were infrastructure. Entrances and exits. Elevators to the handicapped mezzanine. Bathrooms (still in terrible need of imporvement and expansion -- the new "green" waterless bathrooms are unconscionably bad). Concessions. The year-round utility of the Stadium Club. And the revenue that flows from that Club.
...back then...don't know any alums that are unhappy with result today.
And doing his best to foment opposition in the earliest days when plans were first leaked and then announced, was our old buddy Michael Rosenberg at the Detroit Free Press.
Rosenberg's opposition to the expansion appeared to fold at precisely the same time as the Democrats on the Board of Regents decided that they'd support it.
In favor then, still in favor now. Surprisingly disappointed in the non-scoreboardiness of the scoreboards though. Wanted to take pics of the score after the game I went to last year, and there was no such thing.
Was opposed until I sat in a suite. Then decided I needed to make a whole lot more money in life so that I could own a suite and laugh at everyone below
In addition to the "that's it" feeling from the outside to the impressed inside sensation, I miss that everyone had to sit in the same seats. There was sort of a brotherhood there. Having corporations buy boxes or superweathy buy them sort of takes away from it.
Overall though, I really like what we did. The brick looks fantastic. As long as we ruined the suprise giant stadium I think we should add the second decks on the endzones. Another 40k to 60k would be great.
I like the suites and lights. But I'm not exactly thrilled with the plan of a second deck. I know upper decks hold the sound but I'm fond of the bowl look.
We could expand/enclose the endzones with scoreboards on top and brick it all round like Kinnick http://graphics.fansonly.com/schools/iowa/graphics/kinnick/rendering-580.gif or better yet Doak Campbell http://football.ballparks.com/NCAA/ACC/FloridaState/front.jpg
Texas could reach 115,000+ with the south endzone enclosed at DKR http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/5732/212262664wrliehph5id.jpg
I think that we're one of very few fanbases in college football that could pull something like that off.
Lambeau field... Modeled after Michigan Stadium.
But are you being sarcastic or not? It certainly looks a lot like Michigan stadium and it certainly wouldn't be the first stadium to be modeled after the big house (ND, I think Oregon's Autzen stadium was originally, though it looks nothing like it now).
Interestingly enough, Michigan Stadium was at least partially inspired by the Yale Bowl. While the 'Shoe was at least partially modeled after Harvard Stadium. The hatrid runs deep there.
Old Autzen was pretty awesome
And you can at least see the a similarity in the non-expansion part
The engineer credited with designing Lambeau was a UM grad. I think the main similarities are the use of a sunken bowl to create its sightlines and the continuing use of bleachers.
Lambeau didn't have Michigan Stadium's symmetry of having the bowl go completely around at the same level when it was dedicated in 1957.
I remember something about Michigan using Lambeau's atrium renovation/expansion as a model for their own expansion, but can't find anything.
The new "upper deck" expansion at Lambeau, created by filling in the open end, is really ugly, though, both from inside the stadium and from the surrounding areas. It makes me hope that they never pursue the rumored expansion to 120,000.
I love the idea of having the brick facade wrap around the whole stadium once they decide to build an upper deck on both endzones. I just dont want them to build it and have buckeye fans and psu fans fill them up. DKR will expand in the near future especcially since A&M has already approved thier expansion plan
Not now, not ever I hope and expect.
What Brandon is working on is an extension of the bowl in the South endzone. No "decks." Apart from the fact that we already have too little parking, and probably not enough ticket-demand, and despite the fact that those seats will suck, with every appearance of watching the game from Monroe County, Brandon will probably do it. The final structure will look like a continuation of the East and West concourses, but with seats (about 25 rows?) instead of glassed-in boxes.
I am not thrilled.
But I will keep an open mind, since as noted above I changed my mind very early on, when I heard all of the evidence and saw the final plans for the Concourses.
to take someone there for the first time and watching them as they struggle to understand how that little place can hold so many people, and then seeing their eyes opened wide as they began to get a view of the bowl through a the doorway.
I still remember how it boggled my mind when I entered for my first game my freshman year. I had never been to or watched a Michigan game before that and the outside is/was pretty unsuspecting, then walking in through the doorways I couldn't believe how huge it was. I really felt like my eyes were having trouble focusing/grasping what was there
Looks great from the outside, but I think the boxes look out of place when I'm in the stadium.
Really? I think I would agree if they were just rectangle-shaped and flat in front, but I think the way they are angled makes them look great. The bricking around the outside looks better than I thought it would and I think the (angled) boxes are a great way to "close in" the stadium when you see it from inside.
I think I understood both arguments back then so I was kind of conflicted. I appreciated the tradition but I like new, flashy things too. I had confidence that IF the administration decided to build it, it would look great and I think it turned out absolutely great.
Anyone remember the John Pollack guy from "Save the Big House" website? http://mvictors.com/?p=7430
I wonder if he's changed his opinion...
I meant to put up his name when I was writing a reply posted above.
I don't know if he's changed his opinion. But one thing for sure is that John Pollack found a local press that was thrilled to put him on the front pages to gin up a fight. The Detroit Free Press and the New York Times together loved stories with that guy.
"Mother**** also spent 30 years building a boat out of wine corks and he has the gall to criticize someone else for ill-advised construction?"
Thank you thank you thank you for linking that!
How freaked would Brian have been, way back in his 2007 blogspot days, and in the midst of a lawsuit against the University of Michigan by the Law Offices of Sam Bernstein, to know that one day, Regents Cathy White and Larry Deitch would be joined on the Board by none other than Mark Bernstein?
I was for it, but for a season extremely angry because they arbitrarily decided to isolate some of us UM-Dearborn students during one year of the construction. I won't hold that against the construction itself however, which is beautiful and awesome.
The commenters above also reminded me of the first time I walked through the tunnel into the student section in '05. It was absolute awe, I can still feel the shivers sent down my spine.
And love it! The press box is great! Working for espn/abc/Btn, the new press box is the best. So much more room. The camera angles are not as good as before, but not bad. Love working there and going as a fan when I am not working. Love working at crisler too. Great for tv
As a rebellious student I was against it at the time. I've seen the error of my ways, but there was something to be said for the egality of the bowl that no longer exists.
I've never been opposed to expansions or general improvements. But I've always had a problem with the addition of club seating, luxury boxes, and other forms of wealth stratification into what by rights is a public good. The revenue that those features generate is probably necessary to remain competitive in today's college football arms race, but IMO the stadium was better when everybody's seat was a cold, hard bench, and when the primary determinant of that seat's location wasn't wealth, but the longevity of one's devotion to the program.
that extra space you had next to you was because the big dogs were back in the box with mary Sue, and Bill.
The stratefication was there, just less obvious. While, I'd like to experience a game from a box or up there somewhere - I still think the best seat in the house is down in the bowl with the commoners. It is how Yost intended it to be.
wishing for more expansion and filling in the ends
Would love to see them enclose the outside of the north and south ends of the stadium. As it sits now, it kind of has an unfinished look to it, IMHO.
to keep the view up to Central Campus over the North.
However, if they enclose it as Dave Brandon has described, it would bring the sighlines back up to more of a bowl feel.
Since I went to a few games as a child in the mid and late 70s, then was a student in the early to mid 80s, but I have to admit, the new look is great. I'm hoping I can make a trip up for the CMU game.
Wasn't really in favor of it then, and I'm not in favor of it now. Sure, it really does look great, but it isn't the Michigan Stadium I know and love.
I miss the magic of the subterranean bowl, that little deception that made it look like the stadium wasn't that big until you walked through those portals into the seating area. I miss the stadium being open to the public, instead of locked up unless there's a game or a paid event. I miss the camaraderie of being in the same boat as everyone else, instead of a separate class of suite-holders who get parking spots in the Blue Lot, yet never tailgate because they can just go to their suite.
I get what college football has become. But I look at Michigan Stadium now, and I don't see the place I fell in love with as a kid. The entire package has become so business-oriented, out-of-control, and totally commercialized. It just turns me off.
describes the misgivings of many of us who are more positive about the change but still ...
It was grayed out, so I upvoted it because I felt it deserved to be expressed.
You really want a venue that attracts 100,000 people multiple times a year open to the public to wander in any time they want?
Despite my having described above why I changed my mind, Bando's view is thoroughly valid. I reckon that I will just cherish those old memories, and move on with the new.
We do need to fight the whole revenue-maximization thing.
Really, really looking forward to the next John U. Bacon book.
I love it as is.
I'll be severely disappointed, however, if they add an upper deck above *one* endzone as Brandon has suggested. Call me a sentimentalist cemented to the past, but I'm a sucker for the continuous bowl. Disrupting those slopes with upper decks would be a drag. But even worse is the idea that we'd only do this to one endzone (at least at first)! That would disrupt Michigan Stadium's countless lines of symmetry, which is much less forgivable.
Ohio Stadium recently met official plans to fill in the "gaps" on either side of its locker room tunnels. Effectively, it won't be a horseshoe any more but an ellipsoid like so many other stadiums. And what a shame! That's how you rust a pretty icon. Not by fixing it when it's broken, as we planned in 2007, but by fixing it when it isn't, as OSU is doing now and Dave Brandon is hoping to here.
If it has to happen, fine!, I'll stand in line and learn to love it, but these would be my preferences:
(1) Only do this if we are *certain* we can fill it during down years (Seeing Beaver Stadium, e.g., 10,000 belong capacity is thoroughly depressing).
(2) If we are going to add an upper deck, then add one to BOTH endzones at the same time to preserve bowl symmetry.
(3) If we are going to go ahead with this, then North and South brick facades might as well happen too, and they need to look marvelous.
it would be done in a way that it visually appears as an extension to the slope of the bowl, while continuing the concourse from the sideline structures around the bowl ends. I also think it was described in a way that it would not raise the score boards. Thus that bowl feel you desire would actually be emphasized.
I don't know how you'd accomplish those two things though (visually continuing the bowl without raising the scoreboards). Wouldn't you end up with a significant number of seats hard against the scoreboard that would only have partial views of the field?
That would seem to really go against the architectural idea of Michigan Stadium. I'd really like to maintain a stadium that has no "obstructed views" like so many other places (PSU and OSU especially) where overhangs, girders, and other parts of the stadium structure block sightlines.
I just can't wrap my head around the opinion of being against the renovations. the stadium is beautiful. it looks intimidating. it is actually loud inside now. I love it. yeah I miss the old press box just like I am going to miss Joe Louis Arena after the New Joe is built next to Comerica Park. just for a sentimental reason. however both served their purpose but became an eyesore in the age of stadium arm races.
Before we can find out whats In the Remodeling
As others who were somewhat against it before have stated; I was balancing my need for nostalgia/tradition and the fact that it was old and needed a heavy dose of TLC and modernization. With that being said the end product came out great but as someone who got to witness a "that's it" comment first hand, I will miss not having that experience anymore.
And even more for it after they did it. I think the actual final product looks way better than the original designs released.
That's pretty close, but looks like more of a shell, and has too much glass. The actual product looks more like a collesium and the blue on the inside really makes it all blend really well.
People think it was the same continuous bowl before, but there were seating upgrades to raise the total attendance It went from 101,701 to 102,501 in 1992 and then the big jump to 107,501 in 1998. And at that point, even with the Halo down, there was still all that unfinished looking iron beaming and the cheap blue "former halo" circling the stadium. It didn't really look great, or even just like the classic bowl. This coverted most of that up and made it look very classy.
I don't even know the year. But the stadium went from under 97,000 to above 100,000 with the rather elaborate addition of some top rows with steel construction. Somebody help me out here. What were the old capacity numbers, and when did they change?
Michigan Stadium Capacity over the years (from wikipedia, so we know this is correct)
Thanks. I have no doubt but that if Yost and Crisler had been alive in 2000, they'd have been pushing for the exact plan that we ended up with. They would have been all for it. I'd speculate the same way about Don Canham, too, but that's not necessary. Canham said he was for a Stadium renovation before he died.
Pretty sure it was 72,000, not 82,000, in 1927.
I am guessing you are right as it was designed and build, but the addition of the bleachers as described below bumped it up. From MGoBlue.com under the stadium history:
Opening Season at Michigan Stadium, 1927
Despite the grandeur of the new home, many journalists and fans questioned how the new stadium would affect Michigan's home field advantage after having gone 88-14-2 at Ferry Field.
As the stadium neared completion, Yost requested an addition of 10,000 temporary seats for the concourse at the top of the stadium. This request passed, and Michigan Stadium opened at the corner of Main Street and Stadium Boulevard with a capacity of 84,401 -- the largest college owned stadium of any team in the nation.
On Oct. 1, 1927, Michigan played Ohio Wesleyan in the first game at Michigan Stadium. The game was a success as Michigan started the scoring on a 28-yard pass from Louis Gilbert to tight end Kip Taylor and prevailed easily, 33-0. The new stadium was dedicated three weeks later against Ohio State on Oct. 22, 1927. Though Michigan spoiled the dedication of Ohio Stadium five years earlier, the Wolverines blanked the Buckeyes 21-0 before a capacity crowd of 84,401 at Michigan Stadium.
Your logic is faulty. Uniforms don't matter.
It's funny how all of the sudden these new trends evolve in college football, and Michigan fans get an inferiority complex like we can't recruit without bumblebee uniformz and iPads in the football lockers.
Michigan is Michigan. If a kid won't go to a school because the locker room isn't flashy enough or the stadium doesn't have luxury boxes, it's obvious they don't value the bigger picture of what Michigan has to offer. It's time we stop reducing everything to "it helps recruiting."
Three schools that have resisted all recent trends to trot out gimmick uniformz:
Three schools that have enjoyed inordinate recruiting success, beyond even what their historical successes might warrant:
+1, Bando. I rest my case.
I was one of those that signed the petition not to change it (or there was an alternative plan or something). I do miss the old stadium, but it's only nostalgia. After seeing the finished product, I've been a big fan of the change ever since. I think they did a fabulous job. Not just with the stadium either, the renovations to the entire athletic campus and even the greater campus really tied everything together under a coherent, classy, and timeless theme. The place has a huge WOW factor, especially driving in from Main St and seeing the huge scoreboard from over a mile away.
I was for it then, and I like the stadium much more because of it.
It was mentioned earlier that Brandon is having plans drawn up for an upper deck in the endzone(s). I would much prefer having the boxes continue around. I think this would look much better, would serve several functions. The new boxes would probably be easier to sell over the endzone seats at a higher price, and provide a price point that is intermediate between the luxury boxes and the general seating.
I miss the pee troughs.
The pee troughs were genius. It was like pissing on a wall in an alley. Impossible to miss your target unless you pass out mid-stream.
Not to mention the fact that they cycle people through WAY faster than urinals do. That's especially important in football, where there aren't 17 different half innings to take a pee during. More people trying to pee during the same break=longer lines
I have a good friend who used the "pee on the wall" MO of the old bathrooms (mens only I assume) as an example of superior customer service in a business situation. You could walk in, barely break stride, and be back to your seat before the commercial break was over.
Now you're in for a 20+ minute adventure if you're lucky. I guess that's why they're renting the portable media displays...
I really miss the trough.
Back in the day, engineer Gustave Eiffel won a competition to build a 1000-foot tower for the 1889 Paris Exposition. The tower was to demonstrate the boundless possibilities of structural iron and of course, French engineering genius. The originial intention was that the tower remain on site for the 6-month duration of the Exposition, then be torn down.
Perhaps the main reason why the tower stands today is that the more Parisians and visitors looked at it, the more they liked it. The tower's proportions --- its relation of base to height --- and its graceful network of trusses were very pleasing to the eye. Eiffel was principally concerned with sound engineering, but he ended up producing a timeless work of art.
No, the expanded Michigan Stadium might not rank with the Eiffel Tower as one of the world's iconic structures. But the effect the expansion architects achieved is similar to Eiffel's Tower. That is, the size of the east and west additions are wholly in sync with the size of the original bowl. The total effect is one of balance and yes, harmony. Both inside and out, the expanded stadium is pleasing to the eye, and will remain so for many years to come.
I was in favor of the expansion when it was announced. And now that it's done, the more I look at it, the more I like it.
What actually saved the Eiffel Tower was that people saw its potential as a radio broadcast tower.
but after seeing the design and finished product, they did a great job of using brink and mortar for a classic upgrade.
if only soldier field designers would have done something similar. they did a horrible job of blending the old with the new.
I was in favor beforehand, and it has lived up to my expectations. My only complaint (nitpick, really) is with the scoreboard - as mentioned above, there really should be part of the board that displays the score at all times.