Eastside Maize

June 14th, 2015 at 7:52 PM ^

With our great coaching we will finally get some player development. We need that toughness back, especially on our lines. This class will be the foundation.

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FA_Wolverine

June 14th, 2015 at 7:54 PM ^

It's now been 2 weeks that I haven't unbuckled. My food supply is gone cause my wife has stopped bringing it to the garage. She hooked up the hose to my car window so I'm drinking like a pet rat. Idk how much longer I can remain in here!

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Perkis-Size Me

June 14th, 2015 at 7:59 PM ^

Have to believe that Harbaugh has a plan for all of these kids. He knows what he's looking for, and we finally have a coaching staff that can develop talent.

I trust Harbaugh and his staff with whoever they take until they give me a reason not to.



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wolverine1987

June 14th, 2015 at 8:48 PM ^

I mean this sincerely and not in a mean way, but you don't really know what you are talking about. There have been enough looks at recruiting in the last few years statistically that it is no longer a debate--the ratings matter, they coorelate to winning teams, and to getting chosen by the NFL. It is a fact, not a matter of opinion any longer. Your exceptions (why not add mike Hart was a 3 star also?) are exactly that, and have no bearing. 

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SMart WolveFan

June 14th, 2015 at 9:54 PM ^

The paradox is so delicious!

At the very foundation of discernible matter particles are controlled by the uncertainty principle but statistics underlying recruiting starz are non debatable facts.

 

Just remember correlation doesn't equal causation.

The fact is the short sample size plus the self serving nature of the system tend to skew the statistics.

However, it is reasonable to believe that the recruiting services do a very good job evaluating the players that they actually see enough of but since there are so many high school football players many, if not most, slip by without proper evaluation.

Which means now that they are commits they'll get the looks needed and the "starz will align" for us all.

Of course it's all moot, Harbaugh could take 1* 's to the super bowl!

 

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WolvinLA2

June 15th, 2015 at 1:12 AM ^

I'm not sure how compelling those really are. The conclusion "a five star is more likely to be successful than a four star and a four more than a three." is likely true, but only in a general sense. I'd also like to see a study on how the 3 stars offered by major programs do compared to those who end up at MAC-level schools, for example. Also - if 10% of 3 stars make the NFL and 30% of 4 stars do, that means that those 10% of 3 stars outperformed 70% of all 4 stars (stats are made up for argument sake). It stands to reason that the top coaches are best at determing which of these 3 stars are better than the others, and the rest is a legitimate crap shoot (who stays healthy, who grows late, who improved the most, etc).

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Rodriguesqe

June 14th, 2015 at 8:12 PM ^

Since we got Harbaugh, everything about this program has become fascinating. Especially this class - it'll be one to watch for sure. Maybe Michael Lewis will even write a book about it. Seriously. 

I wonder if a coach has ever done this before? Not that that would affect Harbaugh's decision in the slightest.

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Rodriguesqe

June 14th, 2015 at 8:19 PM ^

I am instituting a "you broke it, you bought it" rule, though. I'm 100% fine with Harbaugh loading up on 2 stars he believes in, but he needs to be here until they've all graduated / gone to the NFL. 

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clarkiefromcanada

June 14th, 2015 at 8:28 PM ^

I am completely enthralled/perplexed/amazed with Harbaugh's approach on recruiting. Clearly he does not give a crap about recruiting sites, starz, national analysis, rankings, February championships or any of it. He is, of course, also, compellingly, the first coach to set up a multi-site, multi-state, ten day combine (I mean Michigan Summer Swarm tour) for player evaluation and recruitment (I mean, for skills development and coaching).

The results of this strategy of using an professional combine approaches (NFL/CFL) and applying the knowledge he used in the NFL probably won't be known for a few years. It is interesting that Harbaugh has not shied away from elite talent (Peters, Swenson, Onwenu, Falcon, Evans etc.) but has offered several "off the board" candidates that he has seen in this combine (I mean camp) environment.

My sense is that the guy was paid to evaluate talent at the professional level and obviously had some say in personnel in SF. I think the combine (again, camp) idea is genius.

Saban has to be kicking himself he never thought of this...then again, if he did, we'd all be pitching a fit in AA.

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shawnducati

June 14th, 2015 at 9:46 PM ^

1. If TCU, Oregon and MSU can win with a bunch of 2 and 3 stars, hell, we can too

2. Tape don't lie

3. Love the guys that can play and REALLY want to be here with Harbaugh

 

 

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