Harbaugh drives Ford

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Buddy of mine is a salesman at Varsity Ford.  Sent me this text last night.  

Bando Calrissian

April 3rd, 2015 at 2:25 PM ^

My dad drove our last one literally into the ground. By the end, it had like 250,000 miles on it, none of the interior electronic stuff worked (no radio, no clock, no power seats, no power door), and there was a rust hole in the roof that made it literally rain on you. He had to have a jumbo bag of fuses in the door panel cupholder because they'd just short out all the time.

Yet it was a powerhouse for tailgating. By the end, it sat in the garage to get rolled out on football Saturdays, until the thing just quit.

Quail2theVict0r

April 3rd, 2015 at 11:45 AM ^

Fred Jackson used to drive a Ford, except better. 

Seriously though, I saw him leaving Schembechler Hall once in an old sports car --  forgive my knowledge of old sports cars -- but I believe it was a gray 60's era Corvette Stingray. Something similar to this:

LSAClassOf2000

April 3rd, 2015 at 12:15 PM ^

The front end configuration makes me want to say 1973, possibly the 454 version if I am looking at this right. If so, a sweet ride that will do roughly Warp 5 in a pinch. 

My father has a 1970 Olds 442 - also a sweet ride. Blue too, so it wouldn't look entirely out of place on South Campus. I should probably drive it to the Spring Game tomorrow.

The Mad Hatter

April 3rd, 2015 at 12:30 PM ^

about the Vette.  My brother in law has one in his garage.  In pieces since the mid 80's.  If he dies before I do I'm going to take it and finish restoring it.

Also you should totally drive that Olds to the game.  My 1st car was actually a 70 Cutlass (not a 442 though).  Loved that car.

 

The Mad Hatter

April 3rd, 2015 at 2:19 PM ^

a sweet car to have when gas is above $4 per gallon.  Cars don't have to be particularly nice, or expensive, to be interesting.  I drove a 20 year old Audi 100, that I paid about $1,500 for, until it had over 250k on it.

And I only paid $2,200 for that Cutlass.  Summer job and savings.  I bought it myself because I saw friends have their cars taken away by their parents, and I decided that wasn't going to happen to me.

WolvinLA2

April 3rd, 2015 at 1:34 PM ^

OK but you are cherry picking.  When I owned a Prius it was completely assembled in Japan.  I know a lot of Japanese automakers are building their better selling models in the US and some American automakers build cars in Mexico and Canada, but you can't say there's no difference between buying an American car vs a foreign car.  

And I'm all for supporting the workmen, but that's a small portion of the total dollars spent.  I like to look at the big picture.  

ken725

April 3rd, 2015 at 1:52 PM ^

I would say that there is no difference. The only difference being how you feel about driving an American car vs a foreign car.

If you want to take a look at the big picture:

The buy American thing is an economic fallacy. It's all about comparative advantage. Japan can produce better cars for cheaper. Allowing Japanese companies to produce cars for Americans frees up American capital for industries in which we have the edge. That has the effect of increasing the division of labor, which mean higher standard of living.

WolvinLA2

April 3rd, 2015 at 2:06 PM ^

I really don't buy that last part.  The auto industry employs a lot of people in this country.  

If we didn't have unemployment then I would agree that freeing up that labor for other things would be of value, but we don't.  So when manufacturing jobs go overseas, some of those people just don't have jobs.  And when GM and Ford need to cut corprorate jobs because people buy a Toyota instead, that affects our economy, specifically Michigan's.

MaizeAndBlueWahoo

April 3rd, 2015 at 2:32 PM ^

Yeah, there are several problems with the comparative advantage thing.  One is that the US is too big to be considered a homogenous economy.  It has a lot of different regional economies within it.  For another, if the US just stopped producing cars, the short-term shock to the economy would be so great that it would cripple our efforts to switch production to something we're supposedly better at.

xtramelanin

April 3rd, 2015 at 11:47 AM ^

we have two of 'em, but they're one-ton 4 x 4's.   not pretty, but they can get it done on the farm.

 

The Mad Hatter

April 3rd, 2015 at 12:04 PM ^

this is so strange to me.  If I had 1/2 his money I'd be driving something much more interesting than that.

Doesn't have to be expensive to be fun either.  2 of my favorite cars I've owned were a Miata and a Gran Torino that looked just like the Starsky and Hutch car.

Makes sense for Harbaugh though.  I really beleive he cares only about football (and his family) and nothing else.

ijohnb

April 3rd, 2015 at 12:35 PM ^

just rejects any notions of political correctness, but I am somehow never offended by it.   Contrast him to somebody like Wolverines Dominate, who offended quite intentionally at nearly every turn, and I think the Hatter brings a unique element to the Board.

The Mad Hatter

April 3rd, 2015 at 12:45 PM ^

You're not offended by things because I don't say them to be offensive.  I typically don't try to hurt anyone's feelings, and if I cross the line I'll usually apologize.  My mission in life is to get a laugh out of people, even if that laugh has to come at someone else's expense (most often my own).

I just have a particular hair across my ass in regards to the language police.  George Carlin did a bit that sums up my feelings about the issue pretty well.

ijohnb

April 3rd, 2015 at 12:58 PM ^

goes further than the language police and more into the thought police.  People don't realize it, but there really is essentially a list of "opinions that cannot be had" right now.  Granted, typically it is other individuals from the private sector that attempt to ban or outlaw certain thoughts or words so it is not the conventional understanding of the thought police like in the 1984 sense(as was touched on yesterday), but it is really very much a part of American life right now. 

Think what you want, except what you can't.

theyellowdart

April 3rd, 2015 at 1:23 PM ^

 

There has always been opinions that "cannot be had" in society.  Nothing has changed on that front in anyway at all.

 

The issue is some people are upset that society doesn't appreciate/agree with an opinion they have or have held for a long time.  It's not too hard to understand why, when you think you're right... you think you're right.   Ontop of that, many people feel that being able to voice their opinion without any type of response to it is their personal free speech.  Which, is just ignorance.

 

BUT, I have a strong feeling this will start getting too political and will get nipped in the bud.   My only intention with this post is to say people having opinions that society doesn't agree with anymore isn't anything new.  Just that some people are experiencing that for themselves for the first time and they, understandably, don't like it.   

ijohnb

April 3rd, 2015 at 1:28 PM ^

but it is more systemic now.  By way of the mainstream mass media, "society" at large has decided on an agreed upon "stance" to certain social issues that most people are expected to rigidly adhere to or face scorn.  People have formulated that certain ideas and opinions are objectively "right" or "wrong" when they are just opinions and not really subject to such an objective criteria.  I could give you 1000 examples without even revealing how I feel about the topics, but the "scorn" would be too much for me to handle...

theyellowdart

April 3rd, 2015 at 1:58 PM ^

 

I don't think it's any more systemic now than before, just that everything is much more public and spreads much much quicker.  So you can have an incident and a large scale response to the incident in a very short amount of time.  Something that wasn't nearly as possible during previous society and culture changes.

 You also have more and more people standing up for themselves and others, as more people become vocal about standing up for what they feel is right, and as society shifts to the majority agreeing that they are right, you will see more people "face scorn" of being called out for their opinons or views that aren't congruent with society, or where activists want to see society go.

That's completely their right to do so, just as it's someones right to hold an unpopular opinion. 

I, admittedly, would be interested in some examples.  But as mentioned, we're already on the line of politics on this board, and we probably would cross it at that point.

MaizeAndBlueWahoo

April 3rd, 2015 at 2:27 PM ^

To be honest, you're both completely right.  Not that you're both arguing the same point, but both points are smack on.

The problem we have, and I don't know whether this is recent or not, is that holding offensive opinions - or saying the wrong things - now makes you a worse person than actual criminals.  What did Donald Sterling do?  Say things - that's it.  Obnoxious, offensive things, but he got banned for life, while two players who threatened to kill each other with guns got a handful of games.  The NFL suspended Mike Priefer three games for saying offensive things ("homophobic remarks") and tried to get away with suspending Ray Rice two games for beating the shit out of a woman.  Or, if you prefer, suspended Andy Moeller two games for DUI and Priefer three for saying things.

So it's really not that society dislikes certain opinions - it's that society has now decided that opinions are a worse crime than real crimes.

WolvinLA2

April 3rd, 2015 at 12:58 PM ^

I don't think he was using "gay" in a pejorative way.  I really think he meant that a Miata is stereotypically homosexual, not that being such is good or bad.  A Miata is a gay car, not because the car itself is gay or bad, but because it's so often driven by gays.  Many cars are often associated with a group of people (girls/women, blacks, Asians, old people). Saying "that's an old person car" isn't saying anything bad about old people, just that that car is associated with that group. 

And don't go accusing me of racism or stereotyping here.  If you think certain cars aren't purchased more by certain groups of people, you're wrong.

WolvinLA2

April 3rd, 2015 at 1:14 PM ^

That truck is way too expensive for a redneck mouth breather.  They'll buy that truck 12 years from now.  

But is all seriousness, it's not just rednecks who drive pick ups anymore.  Lots of Mexicans too.