Harbaugh's response to Woodson on OSU emphasis
I am excite. Haven't seen that look from Harbaugh in a long time.
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You cant say that . The Game is going to be played at their field this year . Shady shit always happens in OSUs favor there .
Oh, you mean like OSU biased refs refereeing the game?
Hope Jim is taking notes.
....or go coach at oregon and tennessee and the same thing happens.
/JK BRADY
in sports, the harder the refs work, the less luck I have
Of course luck exists in sports. Not saying that our poor perforamance against OSU lately has been all luck, but still. If you don't think luck was involved in the blocked punt against MSU, I don't know what to tell you.
Woodson said that because he's a fucking ESPN personality whose job is now to get clicks and start shit. Thanks for the play Charles. Now forgive me if I disregard what you have to say.
and there seems to be a thread running between them of not liking Harbaugh so much. They don't seem to like his antics.
There was beer involved so take it for what it's worth.
As much as I love the 97 team, that was... 21 years ago. Besides, Brady Hoke was the last coach and struggled against OSU. Lloyd who coached the 97 team didn't beat Tressel...
It seems like we didn't emphasize defending the spread enough in the 2015 game, especially in the 2nd half
Ehhh, 2017 is the only year you can say this. Which is the most recent, so arguably the most important, so fair enough.
Harbaugh did not emphasis 2015 enough and certainly did not play to our full potential in any phase of the game.
2016 we did emphasize it and got fucked, but I wouldn't say we played up to our full potential in that game (in that season, think Penn State and MSU the team played much better until stopping trying late in East Lansing). The defense probably did, but the offense certainly had much better performances (including FSU in the Orange Bowl afterwards).
O'Korn was our 4th string QB, really, as it went Speight>O'Korn>Peters>O'Korn.
Also Haskins didn't come in til midway through the third.
Hardly. They had an unknown replacement who performed for less than half the game. We had an undesirable replacement who we had tested and already deemed unworthy who was forced to play the whole game.
You tried to use a false equivalency. And I told you that it wasn't a fair comparison.
Loud noises continue. The Patriots lost the Super Bowl on a freak play against the Giants in their near perfect season. This happened with the greatest QB of all time, greatest coach of all time. Your view: Brady didn't maek plays; Billichek didn't coach guys to makes plaeyz. My view: bad luck. A really close, really great game that turned completely on one very unfortunate play for the Pats. I still think Brady and Belichik are outstanding.
Patriots later play the Seahawks in the Super Bowl. Brady is amazing, drives his team to lead near the end off the game. Seahawks take it right back down the field. Only need to hand it to the most powerful RB in football for a yard for the win. Inexplicably they throw the ball and it's intercepted. You're yelling Brady maek the play, Belichik plazmaker. I'm saying really good luck, they totally should have lost. Brady is still great, so is Belichik.
Very close fought games are sometimes turned by random events. How about them GS Warriors making dem plaeyz when JR Smith ran the clock out? Shouldn't LeBron have made a play?
I of course did not argue all games in sports. But Harbaugh has been bitten a few times by aggresively bad luck (MSU punt, OSU refs 2016, QB against OSU in 2017). Had we won all those games, I'd have nearly the same view of Harbaugh as I do today. You'd be exalting him as god. My view makes much more sense to me.
And let me end the argument here.
Patriots first Super Bowl. The tuck rule. Why didn't Woodson make a play?
You argue that Brady made the play. Or rather, that in that very close fought game, this wasn't the final play. Brady won the game after. I argue that Woodson made the play. Brady fumbled and the game should have been over. Refs intervened and it was very fortunate for the Patriots.
Somehow I think Woodson would agree with me. My opinion of either doesn't change. Woodson made an unbelievable play and should have won. Brady was great. You think Woodson didn't do enough and Brady championed through it by yelling "just win" really loudly.
I like my view.
Shocker, you like yourself. It doesn't make you right. Based on your arguements, I'm begining to wonder if you have played competitiive organized sports.
In your Giants-Pat's example, you fail to recongnize the Giants WR making a helluva play. You can call it luck all you want, but he made the play. That took concentration and effort. It's not like it was thrown so hard it stuck in his facemask despite his efforts to drop it.
I highly recommend you watch the documentaries on the 1980's Celtics-Lakers rivalry. You can hear some of the greatest players of all time talking about their motivation for winning and how it drove them all year to achieve one goal, beating the other team. It went both ways. Yes, you can have exceptional players on both sides. That's when you get classic moments like Bird vs. Wilkins. In the end someone has to win and it is typically one persons or one teams will which makes the difference.
Bringing it back to the original subject. In your world, Michigan just happened to come up Heads 10 out of 13 times against John Cooper and amazingly, have come up Tails 15 out of 17 times since. It's all random luck that Michigan has sucked the past 17 years in The Game. Sorry, I don't buy it.
make big plays to take the lead. Our weakness on defense last season was in part our secondary, more so the safeties. The '97 team held the lead against OSU. I hope our defense just creams them in Columbus. It would be great to see a repeat of the '76 game where we shut those bastards out in Columbus 22-0.
when JH called Woodson to be honorary captain for last year's game?
woodson should know the emphasis. It's been documented. But let's hope this has an effect.
for two goddamn yards.
I can't recall a time when I have ever seen that. . .
Meyer sticks it to Harbaugh, and then the guy has to deal with Woodson's comments. But you know the guy took the failures and the pressure and answered constructively. Great hire in Warinner and a good job securing Patterson. Current recruiting issues aside, I'm not sure what more you can ask a guy to do.
What was he starting with? Who was he up against? How close was he to winning? How much of football depends on luck?
In my opinion, these questions are important to evaluating your question. Also, Harbaugh beat you to the competent QB with Rudock in year 1.
he only had one non true freshamn qb he recruited on his roster, and peters has been a disappointment. You can't expect someone to bat 1.000 on qb recruiting.
I think it's like my Dad used to say, "if you don't have anything good to say, don't say anything."