Getting ahead of ourselves: tie breakers, playoff sceanios, and rooting interests
I know this thread will be hated by a large segment of the board, but here goes:
Does anyone know the tiebreaker in the event of a three way tie for the championship game? I seem to recall way back when these things were relevent to Michigan (pre championship game), that the big ten title and trip to rosebowl went to the team most removed from going. Does this still hold true? If so, thank you Hoke and Rodriguez for the sucking, I guess.
A weird situation related to the above would be Michigan, MSU, and OSU win out except: UM beats MSU, MSU beats OSU, and OSU beats UM. Fairly possible, right? If so, 2 loss UM goes to the B1G championship game and defending national champion and Michigan defeater OSU does not. Even if we win the B1G title game, I think OSU could have a more compelling case for a playoff spot.
As such, I think its in our best interest to addopt Mr Rudock's former team as our B1G west rooting interest. They don't play the big 3 from the B1G east, they're undefeated, and we may need a big fat highly ranked paper tiger to seal the deal at the end of the year.
October 11th, 2015 at 1:16 PM ^
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October 11th, 2015 at 1:19 PM ^
if the scenario that you described happens, I dont think Michigan plays in the championship game because all three teams would be 7-1 in conference and it would come down to the CFP Rankings which would probably have either OSU or MSU above UM in that case.
October 11th, 2015 at 1:20 PM ^
In your scenario MSU would go to the championship.
We lose a 3 way tie automatically because we have a non-conference loss while they both were undefeated (overall record is the first tie-breaker). Then, once we were out, MSU would have head to head over OSU
October 11th, 2015 at 1:37 PM ^
Here's the rule that applies.
5. The highest ranked team in the first College Football Playoff poll following the completion of Big Ten regular season conference play shall be the representative in the Big Ten Championship Game, unless the two highest ranked tied teams are ranked within one spot of each other in the College Football Playoff poll. In this case, the head-to-head results of the top two ranked tied teams shall determine the representative in the Big Ten Championship Game.
We're likely to be 3rd if it's a three-way tie although it's not automatic. Unlikely that OSU and MSU are next to each other in the poll.
October 11th, 2015 at 1:46 PM ^
that is like the 5th tiebreaker. The first tiebreaker is overall record.
October 11th, 2015 at 2:36 PM ^
October 11th, 2015 at 2:44 PM ^
They changed the tiebreakers a couple of years ago.
Overall record is not the tiebreaker in the scenario of 3 teams tied at 7-1 in conference games. The 3-way tie at 7-1 would drop to the 5th tiebreaker, so it would be settled by the CFP poll as quoted above.
October 11th, 2015 at 1:20 PM ^
By head to head then record:
http://www.bigten.org/sports/m-footbl/archive/081011aaa.html
So that Utah loss woudl trip us up if we only beat one of either MSU/OSU
October 11th, 2015 at 1:22 PM ^
October 11th, 2015 at 1:23 PM ^
Must be nice to have hobbies outside of CFB.
October 11th, 2015 at 1:30 PM ^
October 11th, 2015 at 2:16 PM ^
Tim, is that you?
October 11th, 2015 at 1:26 PM ^
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October 11th, 2015 at 1:42 PM ^
It will be reflected in the polls, but strange things can happen.
October 11th, 2015 at 1:26 PM ^
If we win out we will be in the playoffs because we are Michigan and because Harbaugh. It's kind of cliche/meme-ish at this point but it's the truth. The committee would not keep out 12-1 B1G champion Michigan coached by Jim Harbaugh.
But if you need a rooting interest it's everyone on our schedule when they are not playing us. Utah is your second favorite team.
October 11th, 2015 at 1:37 PM ^
October 11th, 2015 at 1:50 PM ^
The last spot could come down to Big Ten vs Pac-12, especially if Clemson or FSU were to go undefeated. If we were to win out, we'd already likely have the best resume of any one loss team outside of the SEC.
October 11th, 2015 at 2:01 PM ^
true, because it looks like Baylor or TCU will win out, and the ACC is basically only Clemson and FSU. Hopefully the SEC has a 2 loss champion
October 11th, 2015 at 1:27 PM ^
This board is so fucked...
October 11th, 2015 at 1:28 PM ^
I'm not okay with discussing this in week 7.
October 11th, 2015 at 1:30 PM ^
You do realize that your talking about future games has nothing to do with their outcomes, right?
October 11th, 2015 at 1:38 PM ^
October 11th, 2015 at 2:11 PM ^
I agree, but that doesn't change the fact that we can talk about future games because they we have no impact on the games.
October 11th, 2015 at 2:24 PM ^
October 11th, 2015 at 1:29 PM ^
WHOA, FOLKS! ONE GAME AT A TIME!!!!
That Guy
October 11th, 2015 at 1:39 PM ^
The OP is getting way too complicated.
It is simple - beat MSU, beat OSU, and beat everyone else, we'll be in the BigTen championship game - doesn't matter who we play and frankly not worried about that.
Focus on next week MSU.
That is why they play the games.
October 11th, 2015 at 1:29 PM ^
Also, on rooting interest, you probabably want every non B1G 10/Utah P5 team to lose just to get the undefeateds out of the way
October 11th, 2015 at 1:30 PM ^
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October 11th, 2015 at 1:32 PM ^
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October 11th, 2015 at 1:38 PM ^
October 11th, 2015 at 1:40 PM ^
Beat State, Minny, Rutgers, Penn State, Indiana and maybe Ohio State.......and then win in Indy, and then......
The team is playing really well this year but every game will present for them a different challenge. We will get scored on at some point and maybe big. Our offense is still evolving and a work in progress.
One game at a time
October 11th, 2015 at 1:42 PM ^
can we all just be focused on MSU right now?
October 11th, 2015 at 1:56 PM ^
October 11th, 2015 at 1:44 PM ^
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October 11th, 2015 at 2:02 PM ^
October 11th, 2015 at 2:34 PM ^
If Dantonio loses to a first year Michigan coach, I will say that's devastating for him.
October 11th, 2015 at 2:43 PM ^
bowl this year, even if we lose to both MSU and OSU (not that any of us want to believe that will happen). And then of course take care of business in all our other games.
Ole Miss went to the Peach Bowl with three middling losses (LSU, Auburn, Arkansas), but they had "good" wins over Alabama and Mississippi State in their final game.
If teams keep beating up on each other in the Pac 12 and SEC the NY6 selection may need to look at at least one 3-loss team, and which team would be more attractive than Harbaugh's Wolverines with losses only to Utah, MSU and OSU?
I could see the Rose Bowl selecting them over whoever loses the MSU-OSU game. Or if not, I could envision an intersting UM-ND matchup in the Peach Bowl.
But we are not losing next week, so all of this is moot. This is gonna be fun to watch play out.
We do however need to root for someone to beat Iowa. Having their only loss be in the B10CG would probably seal a spot in the Rose Bowl, which we probably would like to avoid happen as we might otherwise like to be that selection if we end up on the outside of the CoFoPlayo.
October 11th, 2015 at 5:38 PM ^