Gene Smith vs Warde on bitching when you get screwed by refs

Submitted by jbrandimore on December 29th, 2019 at 10:00 AM

As many of you no doubt recall, after the refs took the 2016 OSU game from us, Warde was silent and many here have still not forgiven him for that.

Crooked OSU AD Gene Smith is going off about the officiating last night. 

Does this change how you view Warde’s lack of response in 2016 or not?

 

https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio-state-football/2019/12/110981/ohio-state-athletic-director-gene-smith-pissed-at-overreach-from-the-replay-booth

SouthOfHeaven

December 29th, 2019 at 10:03 AM ^

Warde wasn't silent. If I recall correctly, he reprimanded Harbaugh and apologized for him. Terrible!

Fuck Ohio and all, but I wish Warde would fight for us like that. There's a clear difference in culture here, and I believe that's one of the major factors preventing us from doing anything in this rivalry.

PaulWall

December 29th, 2019 at 10:47 AM ^

It's interesting,  they kept bringing up Ryan day saying "feel our violence" and shit along those lines in reference to their hot start.  They came out fired up.  Ready to fuck some shit up.  They were clearly the aggressors.  It'd sure as hell be nice to see that every now and then.  Im sure that's their culture and how they attack everything. I don't know what Michigan's is,  but you don't hear that aggressive mindset from Michigan. Regarding anything.  Games, recruiting,  adjustments,  coherent interviews,  e.t.c. 

Clarence Boddicker

December 29th, 2019 at 12:42 PM ^

Jim Harbaugh: "Win with character, win with cruelty." From the man who hired a true spread o.c. to institute a more aggressive offense.

Don Brown: "Solve your problems with aggression." Yeah, that's an actual quote from Don Brown, the guy who stunts and blitzes on damn near every down. Have you even seen Don Brown address his defense before and during games? The man yells himself hoarse.

So, yeah, anyway...

massblue

December 29th, 2019 at 2:58 PM ^

That is a fucking lie. I know for a fact that Warde complained to commissioner as well as the head of officials. As a result, the BIG released a statement acknowledging that they missed a couple of calls. 
 
It is a myth that Warde does not fight for his coaches and players.  The obvious difference between last night game and 2016 game is that officials for the 2016 game were from BIG, which made sense not to make big public statement rather than using the private channels. 

Gatekeeper

December 29th, 2019 at 10:03 AM ^

It wasn't a catch...

 

If it would've been a catch, the Clemson receiver's forward progress was stopped and he was being pushed backwards when the ball came out. Therefore, he would've been down.

 

Gene Smith needs to let it go. OSU had every chance to win the game, but did not get it done at the end.

Junior18

December 29th, 2019 at 2:30 PM ^

If there was a conspiracy to throw this game, wouldn't the preferred championship match up be LSU/OSU given the greater number of story lines that game would have-- not least of which the Burrow/OSU connection? If the refs were in on some nefarious scheme to throw the game in one team's favor, I'd imagine OSU would be the team they'd be looking to help. 

ijohnb

December 29th, 2019 at 10:49 AM ^

I thought it was a catch and a fumble.  100% not enough evidence to overturn.  But that is the issue with replay, not that it exists, but they have completely abandoned the “indisputable” standard.  A call that close should definitely stand.  By overturning it they are just admitting that they are not applying the standard correctly.

MGoFoam

December 29th, 2019 at 11:24 AM ^

I agree that it was a fumble. The guy took 4 steps with the ball firmly between his hands before it got stripped out. But letting the play run, then sorting it out by replay was the right thing to do. If they whistle the play dead and then replay shows it was a catch/fumble, that’s a problem, too.

Midukman

December 29th, 2019 at 10:54 AM ^

Yeah Herbie was like a crooked politician over that and then pouted like a baby afterwards. OSU fans chased the guy and his family out of town yet he still supports those loons. I’d be showing my ass to every buckeye fan on earth but he gags on their junk every chance he gets. 

badandboujee

December 29th, 2019 at 12:12 PM ^

That was like the only time he sided with OSU during the game. I remember several times where I was surprised when he sided with calls against OSU, like the touchdown that broke the plane but wasn't secured when Dobbins(?) fell

I'm actually a big fan of Herbstreit, he's usually as neutral as he can be. Just because he says OSU is good doesn't mean he's biased. OSU is objectively good. And he's pretty positive about Michigan related things

jmblue

December 29th, 2019 at 11:09 AM ^

I don't agree that that call cost OSU the game.  It happened in the third quarter and when it was overturned, it was 4th down and Clemson had to punt.  OSU went on to score the game's next touchdown anyway.

OSU lost because it could not score a red zone TD to save its life. (Also: letting Clemson drive 94 yards in four plays with the game on the line.)

shoes

December 29th, 2019 at 11:03 AM ^

Watching it live I was sure it was an incomplete pass and figured the officials were playing it safe in letting the play proceed, knowing it would be reviewed. In slow motion, I started to wonder, but still think the reversal was correct. The two personal foul calls, targeting and roughing the kicker were the decisive plays of the game and they were self-inflicted.

freelion

December 29th, 2019 at 11:13 AM ^

totally agree. It was a clear incompletion to me and I was shocked when the refs let the play continue. I don't think OSU got screwed at all on that call. It was always the correct call. Ruling it a fumble would have been a total outlier in the "process of the catch" era

jace owen

December 29th, 2019 at 11:40 AM ^

I completely agree; watching it live it seemed like a drop by the wideout. In replay it is very debatable.

The blocked punt completely changed the game. Don't do that, and don't let Clemson go 94 yards for the winning score.

It was one of the more enjoyable games I have watched in awhile though. Sadly, shows how much NFL talent the Buckeyes and Tigers have. 

Derek

December 29th, 2019 at 11:44 AM ^

I mean, it was only not a catch because of the NCAA's asinine rulebook. If a guy possesses the ball firmly in both hands while taking three steps, that's a catch according to any reasonable definition. Instead, we're stuck in this bureaucratic hell where the NCAA (or NFL) rulebook tells us not to believe our eyes.