FSU looking into Jameis Winston autographs
October 14th, 2014 at 1:35 AM ^
Right, he'll try to kick the can down the road by seeking to delay the proceedings, for example by filing a TRO seeking to halt it, finish out the season, then withdraw in January and prepare for the NFL draft.
October 14th, 2014 at 12:11 AM ^
So is this Student Conduct hearing for the rape allegation or the "fuck her in the pussy" event? If its for the rape thing, then is it like the Gibbons thing? Even though neither was charged with anything, they could (and did in one case) get kicked out of school for it? In Jimbos press conference today he kept saying he wasn't worried about anything coming of it because he already knew the facts and that Winston wasn't charged with anything. But Gibbons wasn't charged with anything either correct? So Jameis could still get kicked out under the new rule where the school only needs an allegation or something to that affect?
October 14th, 2014 at 12:28 AM ^
October 14th, 2014 at 7:20 AM ^
October 14th, 2014 at 8:17 AM ^
As for the standard, it isn't as easy as there just being an allegation but that might as well be the case. Whereas in a criminal case the standard is "beyond a reasonable doubt", in these cases it's just "preponderance of the evidence".
So only exactly the same standard as every civil case in the USA... and like a civil case it also cannot lead to imprisonment.
October 14th, 2014 at 1:51 PM ^
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October 13th, 2014 at 11:15 PM ^
October 13th, 2014 at 11:16 PM ^
He's going to ruin the very fortunate position he's in one day very soon if he doesn't grow up a bit. Wouldn't surprise me at all to see him flame out of the NFL for legal issues
October 13th, 2014 at 11:24 PM ^
Some NFL team will take a chance on him. Maybe the Rams since Sam Bradford is made of glass. Maybe Oakland, although since Al Davis isn't around anymore, maybe not. Is Al Davis's son calling the shots now? Speaking of, Mark Davis has to be a pretty wealthy man...couldn't someone tell him that his hair makes him look like a moron? Seriously, decent hair is max like 20 bucks. Great clips has 8 dollar Tuesdays.
October 14th, 2014 at 3:18 AM ^
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October 13th, 2014 at 11:20 PM ^
I never got the Manziel hate. Ya, he's kind of a tool and likes to party and is cocky but I mean -- he was a superstar athlete at like what, 19 or 20? He describes 95% of college aged guys. Worst thing he did was sign some autographs and accidentally give a cop his fake ID when he was hammered instead of his real one.
October 14th, 2014 at 12:19 AM ^
though you acknowledge he's a tool. And he certainly doesn't fit the description of 95% of all college aged guys--in fact, virtually none of the college aged kids I know.
Like most people I don't hate him; I just don't respect him.
October 14th, 2014 at 12:50 AM ^
Being a partier or tool still isn't equatable to rape allegations. Just putting that out there. Oh and you apparently don't know enough college aged kids then if none of them are partiers like Manziel.
I would take Manziel in a heartbeat with all his so called "problems" vs. Winston who has actual problems hanging over his head along with 0 common sense to boot.
October 14th, 2014 at 11:27 AM ^
no one was equating Manziel's behavior with Winston's. Literally no one. Certainly not the person I was responding to. People can and do "hate" on celebrities who are tools--even those that aren't rapists.
And I know plenty of college aged kids--apparently just better quality than those you know or project about.
October 14th, 2014 at 11:57 AM ^
October 14th, 2014 at 4:36 PM ^
First, it ain't your site, so you don't get to tell me to take "my judgmental elitism" or anything else elsewhere.
Second, this all started with my simply agreeing with someone that Manziel is a tool and that he is nothing like most college age males I know.
You are apparently endorsing Manziel-reality-show-like behavior--suggesting that it is somehow the norm and just partying hard. We disagree.
October 14th, 2014 at 1:14 PM ^
The person I'm responding to called him a piece of human garbage.
October 13th, 2014 at 11:22 PM ^
I'll still take Johnny Doucheball.
At least Jameis needs money. Manziel is a spoiled brat trust fund kid, he didn't even need the money from the memorabilia guys. He did it for kicks.
October 13th, 2014 at 11:33 PM ^
Ya man. Poor Jameis. He was so wound up that night from his terrible life -- he just needed to bust a nut. And I mean who among us hasn't had the urge to steal crab legs when we have a craving? I know it's crossed my mind.
Yelling "fuck her right in the pussy" while standing on top of a table in a crowded college area while sexual assault allegations are hanging over your head? Shit, man the stress got to him.
And so what if Manziel doesn't "need" the money? He wanted it -- someone was willing to pay him for it. Same for Winston. It doesn't matter.
October 14th, 2014 at 7:23 AM ^
is kind of silly, given the rap sheet Jameis is working on.
October 13th, 2014 at 11:57 PM ^
But I think Manziel and Winston are in two different classes of "human garbage." Manziel is just a little full of himself and he likes to party. Stuff like that tends to disappear with age and maturity, which I think he's getting sitting on the bench and watching a former nobody like Brian Hoyer lead what was supposed to be his team. As long as Hoyer keeps winning, no one gives two craps about Manziel. Browns fans are just happy their team is winning games.
Winston, on the other hand, has some serious character issues, and tends to think he's above the law. Manziel caught headlines for partying. Winston catches headlines for sexual assault charges, shoplifting, and yelling obscenities in public for all to hear. Two very different things.
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October 13th, 2014 at 11:21 PM ^
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October 14th, 2014 at 6:44 AM ^
The university could just issue a press release stating that Winston doesn't know how to write and thus it couldn't be him signing those autographs! /S
October 14th, 2014 at 12:03 AM ^
He's got the mark right now of just some other first round talent with all the tools you'd ever want in an NFL quarterback, but is out of the league within 1-2 years. Hate saying this, but wouldn't be surprised if he's in jail one day.
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October 14th, 2014 at 12:15 AM ^
October 14th, 2014 at 3:41 AM ^
The people who don't get why it's so fucked up for an athlete who's been accused (very plausibly) of raping one of his classmates to yell sexually aggressive obscenities, in public, at other classmates, clearly have no idea what "rape culture" means. But boys will be boys.
October 14th, 2014 at 12:33 AM ^
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October 14th, 2014 at 9:45 AM ^
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October 14th, 2014 at 8:42 AM ^
FSU fans are getting tired of this act. I heard some on the radio this morning dogging him. one kid who said he was an FSU student said "we shoulda thrown him off the team when he yelled obscenities in the student cafeteria. this is getting old."
October 14th, 2014 at 9:06 AM ^
"We could make them not have any fans from that standpoint and not sign for anybody. That's what it's going to come to, and that's a shame for college football, that somebody exploits a kid. Now if they're getting paid for it, then I don't have any knowledge of that. I don't believe Jameis did." - Jimbo Fisher, in the article
Did anyone else imagine a sarcastic, indignant Jimbo Fisher when reading this passage? Actually, if you can see that, the image becomes almost funny in a sad sort of way. Clearly, in his considered opinion, he should be able to sign away, unless he is paid, in which case Jimbo knows of no such events currently scheduled.
October 14th, 2014 at 9:25 AM ^
October 14th, 2014 at 9:56 AM ^
Winston is the gift that keeps giving.
October 14th, 2014 at 5:02 PM ^
As long as he didn't autograph her right in the .......