1VaBlue1

April 12th, 2017 at 10:03 PM ^

Why wouldn't he?  He was a big part of it and rode it to a successfull career in the NBA.  He makes his living now with words, and people keep asking him about it.  Why shouldn't he talk about it?  I applaud his openness with it, even if it makes some people cringe a little.

And I'd welcome Webber back with open arms if he would only admit what he did.  And I suspect most M fans would, also...

Mr. Yost

April 12th, 2017 at 10:20 PM ^

Agree 100% until the Webber stuff...what is there to admit? We know what he did. It's just a matter of whether he apologizes or not. And as I mentioned, really? An apology is where so many of you are drawing the line? An apology?

So it all goes away and if he says sorry? This isn't 5th grade and he didn't call you a poopyhead. Saying sorry is polite, but it doesn't change anything - especially from a 40+ year old man.

You make a child say sorry, in part, to teach him/her right from wrong. Why are so many people obsessed with a grown ass man saying sorry? He knows right from wrong. Saying sorry doesn't change anything.

1VaBlue1

April 12th, 2017 at 10:56 PM ^

Why are you changing what I wrote?  I don't care if he says he's sorry.  He got his, he's got nothing to be sorry about.  But he has never admitted to what he did, or that it affected the school/team adversely.  He's never aknowledged that, at all.  If he does, someday, admit he did things that were against the rules, things that adversely affected the team, and takes responsibilty for it - I'll welcome him back.

He won't do that, though.  He won't ever admit he did anything wrong.

lilpenny1316

April 12th, 2017 at 9:59 PM ^

That's an amazing stat.  

Worst move UM made was hiring Tom Goss.  He mishandled everything from the budget, staff and firing Fisher.  Instead of getting all the facts together, he fired a HOF caliber coach and replaced him with Ellerbe.  The sanctions aren't what set the program back.  Brian Ellerbe/Tom Goss did more than any booster could do to bring down a program.  

1VaBlue1

April 12th, 2017 at 10:09 PM ^

Yep...  Brian Ellerbe is the single worst Michigan coaching hire I can remember, which goes back to the early 70's...  Goss was abysmal.  Johnny Orr retired that year, and said he'd come back to coach UM that year at no charge.  Goss said no.

Goss and Ellerbe should be stricken from the record.  But then, if you don't remember history you're doomed to repeat it.

jmblue

April 12th, 2017 at 11:14 PM ^

Jack Weidenbach replaced Bo in 1990, and then Joe Roberson succeeded him three years later.  Goss was hired (from the business world) by Lee Bollinger in 1997, and had no experience in athletic administration.  He had only been on the job briefly when he made the coaching change in basketball.  

snarling wolverine

April 12th, 2017 at 11:27 PM ^

Bollinger himself had only been appointed President a few months earlier.  Aside from letting students visit his house after the PSU game, he was pretty much regarded as an asshole and ended up leaving for Columbia a couple years later.  The awful "Halo" around the Stadium was Lee's idea.

1997 was like the bizarro version of 2014.  In contrast to the Schlissel/Hackett/Harbaugh trio of excellence, we hired Bollinger, Goss, and Ellerbe.

 

Maynard

April 12th, 2017 at 10:28 PM ^

Love Jalen. He was my favorite of the Fab Five and was the heart of that team. For those of us who experienced it all in real time, we know how the environment really was. For those like WD who are too young to know but still comment on it in a way that makes it nefarious (or more so than it was), piss off. College basketball sucks in comparison to how it was when multi-year rivalries between players were still a thing.

DMack

April 13th, 2017 at 12:04 AM ^

I agree except in the Championship game where Webber should have never been bringing the ball up court. Rose or King should have brought the ball up and neither seemed to want the ball that play. In big games, at big moments, big time players don't run away from the ball. I saw Talley yelling "call time out" but whether or not Webber knew or not, the guards, who's job it was to handle the ball and quarterback the plays both knew there were no timeouts left, so a few people choked on that play and cost us a vacated Championship.

M Ascending

April 13th, 2017 at 8:42 AM ^

You are absolutely right that Talley induced Webber to call the TO; but to Webber's and the whole team's credit, no one tried to throw Talley under the bus. Webber continued to take all the blame on himself. Doesn't make up for taking $250K, however.

Michigantrumpet82

April 13th, 2017 at 2:39 PM ^

The guy sitting next to me was shouting "Call Time Out!" as were a lot of people in the stands. CW stood up and never once tried to deflect.  I also liked that he started the Time Out Foundation with his first NBA check to help inner city kids.  Trying to make something positive out of a bad situation. 

Michigantrumpet82

April 13th, 2017 at 3:22 PM ^

my all time favorite. Grew up in the worst part of Chicago. Raised by his Grandmother who kept him to the straight and narrow and guided him towards college. 

He was at his high school announcing he would go to Michigan to play. Should be the happiest, biggest day of his life.  Comes home to find Grandma has had a heart attack or stroke or some such and has passed. 

He kept his promise to his grandmother. He came to Michigan, he played, and he went to class. Even after he went pro, he came back and completed his Michigan degree.  

Great player, excellent man.  Should not be tarred with the Fab-Five-were-all-cheats brush. Lots of people here making assumptions about things they don't know the truth about.

Lil boy blue

April 12th, 2017 at 10:54 PM ^

The Fab Five elicits so many emotions from so many angles. Everything was going so right - a legacy was being built on and off the court - legends were being made .... and then poof. Everyone involved was culpable including the NCAA and their archaic rules and regulations. Just fascinating how the view of this team, the players and coach are so different depending on the lens you look out of. Remove Ed Martin, other slimy boosters, hungry students, an erroneous timeout (no matter if it's CW or the bench to blame), archaic student athlete regulations and our basketball program could be Duke with Fish still standing strong. Just sad but I will love this team forever

DMack

April 12th, 2017 at 11:25 PM ^

C. Web was arguably the best to come out of Michigan (if you don't include Magic in the conversation). Fischer admitted that without Webber we don't get there. I don't think an apology is necessary at this point. It's sad that these two childhood friends haven't reconciled their differences and hugged it out. Banners or not, we all know what they did for the sport. Everybody knows what role they played, they all paid a price for their involvement and all of them have done very well for themselves after the fact. Let by-gones be by-gones and make up with your friend Jalen. Congrats to Coach Fischer on a great career.

VAWolverine

April 13th, 2017 at 6:24 AM ^

was not used in my previous post. CW just needs to own what his actions were like all of us need to do from time to time. He did what he did so stand up and acknowledge it. Man up!

bronxblue

April 13th, 2017 at 9:22 AM ^

This is an unpopular opinion I'm guessing, but I don't buy for a second Fisher didn't have an idea something was up. It's hard to imagine a head coach wouldn't notice an influx of cash to his players. And as for them keeping their banners up, I am fine with them staying down. You guys got caught breaking the rules, and while I think the rules are dumb and others got away with the same, that's the deal when you get caught.

Bando Calrissian

April 13th, 2017 at 11:33 AM ^

Of course he knew. Read the NCAA report. Read the Fab Five book. He knew Ed Martin. He forged Perry Watson's initials on forms to get Ed Martin comp tickets. Players under Frieder were getting paid--the infamous fancy cars and fur coats. Guess who was Frieder's right-hand man? This just didn't come out of nowhere.

Fisher was one of the chief reasons Ed Martin had access to Michigan Basketball. Period. The "aw shucks" rosy-cheeked yokel routine only goes so far--he helped run, and then oversaw a dirty program.

That being said, with a Michigan basketball program now winning and succeeding by doing things the right way, without even a sniff of impropriety, it would be really great if these people would just go away already. 

DenardPeppers

April 13th, 2017 at 1:18 PM ^

You know it is weird though that none of the other Fab 5 members had nice cars or other things. Maybe Rose was lying when he said at times he couldn't even order a pizza cause he was so broke. It was a time where all schools were doing this. It took one thing to happen and people looked into it. I still to this day believed Mateen Cleaves was a guy who told the Ncaa about certain things.

lilpenny1316

April 13th, 2017 at 12:59 PM ^

Do we have other proof that Webber received the money he allegedly was given?  I always wondered if both banners had to be removed, especially if Webber didn't receive any money until sophomore year.

DenardPeppers

April 13th, 2017 at 1:14 PM ^

it was only Webber who got all the Fab Five looking bad. The other 3 guys came after. It is sad that one player ruined the greatest most influential basketball players in the history of college ball. Just would like something to show what Fisher and those guys actually meant to Michigan. You could have all of them listed and then have a blank space for Webber. Just wish he would man up. he is rich enough and it has been so long he should do the right thing for Fisher and the rest of that team not just the Fab 5

Michigantrumpet82

April 13th, 2017 at 2:52 PM ^

Coach Fisher was a class act.  

I loved the Fab Five and the way they energized college basketball. A joy to watch. I was at that Final Four in New Orleans. Utterly stunned by the ending. At the Michigan hotel afterwards, Coach Fisher stood in the ballroom and addressed the Michighan faithful. He said that the coaching staff took the blame and that we should not hold it against CW who felt horrible about it. He said the whole team was standing by CW. 

Coach then stood there as if in a funeral receiving line and spoke with EVERY single person passing by. It had to have been excruciating, but he did it with class and dignity. I'll never forget it. 

BIGBLUEWORLD

April 13th, 2017 at 3:40 PM ^

Watching Rumeal Robinson make those two foul shots was one of the happiest sports moments of my life.

Megatron

April 13th, 2017 at 8:33 PM ^

He had nothing to do with the Fab 5 scandal which is all on Chris Webber who should man up and admit he did wrong but his pride and ego is getting in the way to ever man up. I'm still bitter Chris Webber got Steve Fisher fired from Michigan being the fall guy for the scandal when it was all Webber. I have been bitter at Michigan for the Steve Fisher firing why I haven't been a full blown Michigan fan in basketball I'll root for them when they don't play MSU I know I'll get voted down for that oh well. I remember 89 National Championship Game one of my first times that I got into to sports was Michigan making it to the Final 4 beating Ills than Seaton Hall in OT which I stayed up watching the whole game. My stepdad convinced my mom to let me stay up for the game when I was 8 years old and had school the next day wasn't tried the next day. Steve Fisher should be in the Hall Fame as he was a great coach and won a National Championship before being named the head coach of Michigan don't know if he would have been Michigan's head coach for not making a Tourney run in 89.