ESPN - Michigan has a brighter future than OSU
It's an insider article, but Feldman gives his take on the current situation in Ohio and the momentum Hoke has created:
Bears found to shit in the woods!
It is refreshing to see media folks reinforce what we've been gleefully thinking for months though.
Feldman is the blind squirrel of ESPN journalism.
Really?
...will further OSU paranoia that the press is after them.
as does Eastern Michigan.
I hate you, Trebek.
The jury is still out on the new head coaches? Hoke has been a head coach before. Does this mean he will own "Finkell"? Well time will tell, as always, but this isn't Hoke's first rodeo. He never faced the scrutiny that he will get here though.
Did you say "Finkell"?
Come on now.
is a MAN!! (commence the showering)
everyone have sunglasses?
...Michigan HAS, I repeat, HAS to be Ohio State this year. I honestly think there is no excuse losing to them (save the referees or replay booth guy screwing Michigan) in 2011. We have them at home and we just can't make is eight times in a row. The streak has to end sometime and this is the perfect year to end it with Tressel being gone.
if they don't want to "be" Ohio State?
Meant to type "beat."
What? There are exactly 3 players on Michigan's team that are noticably better than their counterpart on OSU this year -- Robinson, Roundtree, and Martin. 3 spots out of 22 starting positions. While that's not to say Lewan or Omameh or Hemingway is necessarily worse than their competition, I don't know how you can possibly say we "have" to beat them this year. We are still 1-2 years away from being favorites against OSU.
Molk, maybe. But Koger and Roh? What have they done to be considered better than OSU's guys?
I would say we don't HAVE to beat them until the 2013 season. I think we can and should compete the next two years but we will still be transitioning. Then again you never know what will happen. Less talented teams win games all the time
...Michigan HAS, I repeat, HAS to be[at] Ohio State this year.
Haven't we been saying this since 2006?
I wish I had more confidence re the OSU game. It's not as if the Buckeyes have suddenly been drained of personnel; they've still got deeper talent than M does. It will take a year or two for M to catch up.
Michigan had more talent than OSU in 2001, MAYBE 2002 (at least on offense), and 2004. Look who won those games.
I would go as far as saying Michigan had more talent in 2007 and we lost that game also.
You honestly think a Michigan team that went 9-4, lost to App State, got blasted by 30 at home to Oregon, etc. had more talent than the #1 ranked team heading into the BCS Championship game?
I love Michigan but come on, youre just making claims based on homerism. Our offense was comparable and maybe had a slight edge, their defense was miles ahead of ours after the departure of Woodley, Hall, Harris, etc. after 2006.
No, actually he is right. We were better than them every year until RR showed up. Lloyd Carr couldn't coach.
I assume you meant 2006. The talent was pretty even. UM had more elite NFL talent, but OSU possibly had better overall college talent. Carr was an excellent coach, was he a better gameday coach than Tressel?
I don't know if we had more talent than them in any of those years. In 2001, Navarre had a brutal season, the OL wasn't much better, and we had very ordinary talent at the skill positions other than Marquise Walker. OSU wasn't loaded either, but did have an excellent tailback in Jonathan Wells. Their downfall most of the year was Bellisari's penchant for crippling turnovers, but then he got arrested and was suspended against us, and the rest is history.
I also don't think we had more talent in 2002, on offense or defense. Maurice Clarett was a Heisman-caliber as a true freshman, Michael Jenkins was a fantastic receiver, their OL was solid and Craig Krenzel was the classic game-managing QB. They had no major weaknesses anywhere.
In 2004, OSU turned the corner after Troy Smith entered the lineup. With him in there they were a different team. They would not have lost four games if he'd started all season.
In 2007, maybe. But Henne and Hart were badly injured going into that game, which negated our edge.
OSU was more talented than UM almost every season in the 90's and we know how that turned out.
Not before 1995. And even from '95 onward, if they had more talent, the gap was miniscule. Both teams were reeling in blue-chippers. The talent gap now is much larger. The one thing we have going for us is that we'll have more experience at QB this year. It's been awhile since that was the case.
well, duh
is to dump their incompetent AD and President. Of course they'll still be TSIO that's located in craphole Columbus.
...it's all irrelevant until we actually start winning on the field. An uncomprehensible 3 straight losses to Sparty (with an even-shot at 4 straight) and more losses to tOSU than I care to remember.
I'm excited for the future but will not start counting chickens until at least ONE of them hatches.
...but since when did we start relying on their prognostications/opinions for comfort?
They don't know a damn thing about anything other than the most banal and conspicuous topics.
a banal and conspicuous topic.
Wishful or hopeful thinking?
I've got a bad feeling that they won't dole out the justice to OSU that everyone here is expecting.
awaiting the epic hammer to fall for not having a better future. They aren't going too far out on a limb. We are not talking into perpetuity or something crazy like that.
I believe it is ridiculous to presume anything before a single game has been played. Lets wait a few years before we presume anything has turned. Lets go back in time.
In 2005 the new AD for ND fired the outsider coach that everyone hated because he was an outsider. The coach was replaced by Nth choice who had a dubious background. Charlie Weis claimed ND would play football the right "schematic advantage" and everyone called him a ND guy. His staff though not hotshot was filled with experience. Because of the buzz around him ND hauled in the 5th best recruiting class in 2006 according to Scout. In 2005 a team with most of their starters back and a manageable schedule win 8 of their first 10 games. Six years ago every ND koolaid drinker on the planet would have insisted that ND had a brighter future of continous BCS contention. Weise appeared to be a brilliant genius and he was rewarded with a ten year extension. Few bothered to pay attention to the warning signs.
Does that mean that Hoke is a clone of Weis? Absolutely not. However, insisting on anything without seeing a single snap is about as insane as investing your future in credit default swaps originating from Detroit mortgages. We know nothing until we see the product on the field. Everything up to this point is just talk. Anyone on this list buy a car without a testdrive, or purchase a pair of shoes without wearing them? Lets see what happens before we proclaim dynasties. Yes, I have some land in Florida to sell you. Its on the beach. Trust me! You don't even have to see it. Just sign on the dotted line.
I've been terrified that michigan may turn into nd. We have to see what hoke turns out these next few seasons and see if he can develop the players, which was weiss's downfall.
has a brighter future than OSU
...and he's been dead four weeks.
He was certainly a pioneer in medicine; I'm interested to see what his legacy will be 20, 50, 100 years from now.