Eleven Warriors take on Tresselgate
http://www.elevenwarriors.com/2011/04/mr-clean#more
Interesting take on the yesterdays announcement of the NOA that Ohio State recieved last Friday from the writers at elevenwarriors. While I am not surprised that the consensus opinion among buckeyes is in favor of Tressel I am surprised at the depths to which they will go to justify that McCheatypants love.
Every tragedy has a well-intentioned idiot, and this one is no different. From the moment that Columbus attorney Christopher Cicero created a paper trail to Tatgate, Tressel had his work cut out for him. While he had options and could have acted more covertly, it's now abundantly clear that Tressel tried to abort Tatgate before it gestated into Tatgate. Immediately notifying the compliance department would have effectively birthed Tatgate last April. While he failed in the noble endeavor to ultimately make it go away, he kept it obscured until the Feds finally shot their publicity ray at it.
You know how many other FBS coaches would have hoped or tried for this episode to erase itself rather than give a glimpse of it to their compliance departments? All of them. This isn't the cop out of "it happens everywhere." This is the fundamental principle of risk mitigation that says if you think you can make trouble disappear rather than deal with its consequences, you make it disappear.
So basically the argument is that everyone would have done the same thing and we were simply unlucky enough to get caught. Hmmm.... sounds familiar. There is more about this article that is just so very wrong but try telling them that. Just thought it might give the mgoboard a good laugh.
Was the problem? Not that there was something to create a paper trail to?
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<br>And if no one would turn to their compliance department, why do we even have them? This was pretty rich.
Columbus should be renamed Jonestown.
HELL LITERALLY THE UTTER SOURCE OF ALL DAMNATION THAT HAS EVER OR EVER WILL PLAGUE THE EARTH, aka THE PLACE WHERE THE DEVIL RULES HIS NEVERENDING CAMPAIGN OF EVIL AGAINST THE WORLD, MORE SPECIFICALLY HELL CITY aka THE CAPITAL OF EVIL IN THE DISTRICT OF HELLACTICA aka THE OFFICIAL SEAT OF THE COUNTY OF BEELZEBUBB, THE STATE OF LUCIFERSYLVANIA PREVIOUSLY KNOWN AS HELL CITY, HELL. Oh, and HELL.
Aww, hell, I forget the rest.
^^I love this. Columbus is the absolute worst place on planet earth and my idea of hell is spending an eternity in that hole. I once was at a work sponsored osu tailgate, and wore a blue shirt (light blue not M blue) that read Toledo Zoo on the chest. I had at least a half dozen morons yell "Michigan sucks" or "Fuck Michigan" at me without even knowing that I am from and a fan of Michigan.
LIED LIED LIED LIED LIED LIED!!!!!!!!!
He found out his own players broke the f-ing rules of the governing body that makes the rules of the sport that he works in.
He failed to tell the school about said f-ing broken rules which is yet another rule broken.
By not telling the school which would subsequently tell the rule making commission which would subsequently suspend the players for the sake of letting said players play he broke yet more rules.
Then he f-ing broke MORE rules of said governing body by LYING TO THEM that he didn't know anything!!!
HOW THE F DO YOU DEFEND THAT!
I blog from the inside, and I've been getting more dirty looks this quarter than last for sure. I just grin and go about my non-illegal business--unlike Jim Tressel. Bahahahaha.
April 27th, 2011 at 12:06 AM ^
It is indefensible and thats what I just dont get about his supporters. He lied, his lie is in writing, he was caught, he lied again at the press conference, that lie was exposed once again with a paper trail. It's disgusting how he pandered to the military at their spring game as well. He exhibits none of the qualities that we have come to expect and honor from our servicemen.
You forgot "stinky" and "filthy". Other than that, I think you pretty much nailed it. Top drawer analysis.
This is the fundamental principle of risk mitigation that says if you think you can make trouble disappear rather than deal with its consequences, you make it disappear.
Not sure what the point of this is. Is it to exonerate JT? To tell others not to cast stones? I don't see any reason to believe that "All" FBS coaches would do the same; but even assuming that's true, what others may or may not have done says nothing about what should have been done, or what the rules require. Who cares what others would have done?
And the effort to "make it go away," i.e., cover it up, is a "noble endeavor"? (!)
Funny - this writer appears capable of constructing subject and predicate, and that just makes this that much worse. This (we can assume) isn't that creepy guy in the buckeyes outfit singing a YMCA-type ode to Tressel.
April 26th, 2011 at 10:20 PM ^
Compelling visual evidence. Narrowly tailored to the asserted proposition. Meets strict scrutiny. I guess I'm buying - what the fuck is wrong with those people?
No wonder they're willing to sweep this shit under the rug. They probably do that literally in their own homes.
April 26th, 2011 at 10:45 PM ^
and not in a good way. Trust me, I grew up with these people and I know 'em backwards and forwards.
April 26th, 2011 at 10:52 PM ^
That's some pretty complex shit for them, I would think.
April 26th, 2011 at 10:56 PM ^
This video shows Ohio State football fans at their best ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xesorNqSJI8
April 26th, 2011 at 11:38 PM ^
Above video, embedded ...
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April 26th, 2011 at 11:40 PM ^
BTW ... since there's a few embedded videos here, how does one embed a youtube video here? Is there a tutorial link? Just curious ...
April 27th, 2011 at 12:03 AM ^
1. Copy the embedding code.
2. Switch to plain text editor (link at bottom of Comment box)
3. Paste code and Save.
4. Profit.
It sounds like he is ready to dump Tressel since he doesn't cheat as effectively anymore as he used to. Time to bring in a fresh cheater without the baggage. Calling Urban.
would have been ineligible in any case. Thats what cheaters do, they fail at taking responibility secondly, sheilding these players from the consequences of their actions is also irresponsible. poor decision and apparently a character flaw JT has not overcome. no matter how many books on religion and character he writes. ultimately he has to live those values and that sometimes means facing down the unpleasant things in life
Hey, why they have to take a shot at RR in the 2nd paragraph, what's so embarrassing about loving Josh Groban classics?
April 26th, 2011 at 10:07 PM ^
Usually 11W has at least three or four jabs against Michigan per article. Cooooooome and get it! Plenty of "scUM" for the whole family!
Basically it's the Dirty Dozen's not that you killed the guy..."but you let someone see you do it". Except it was more justified in the movie. That can't be taken seriously as a blog anymore, if it ever was.
It's not that Tressel cheats, it's his nascent inability to "keep the lid on things" that's bothersome
He got the shittiest city, in the shittiest state named after him.
ask Bartolome de las Casas.
I just tweeted him
No better than he deserves. I would expect Hitler, Germany to be very good either. It's still shocking he gets a day.
Man oh man, these guys are too rich for my blood.
You guys have NO idea how much denial is going on down here. I have about 80 OSU fans who work for me who, to a man, are convinced this is nothing and will all blow over soon.
Where do you work?
Athletics Administration
1010 Fawcett Center, 2400 Olentangy River Road
Columbus, OH 43210
Phone: 292-7572
Fax: 292-0506
+ Eleventy billion.
OSU fans working for a Michigan alum? Yep, that sounds like the correct hierarchy.
April 26th, 2011 at 10:16 PM ^
April 26th, 2011 at 10:37 PM ^
And you won't end punt like Andy Dufrane (sp) for hijacking the intercom.
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<br>Hope you throw in some Ufer as well!
April 26th, 2011 at 10:38 PM ^
End up not end punt.
April 26th, 2011 at 10:04 PM ^
Considering it's blown over for every other infraction OSU's had, I can't blame them for that attitude. MoClo, Holmes, Troy Smith and the others were all basically swept under the rug. OSU has gotten off scott-free and the fans can only believe that this will too.
My BIGGEST QUESTION, is if Tressel thought this was acceptable to sweep under the rug (as the Eleven warriors writer suggests), then I really want to know WHAT ELSE HE'S SWEPT UNDER THERE TOO! Where there's smoke, there's fire...
April 26th, 2011 at 11:15 PM ^
I work in Dublin, Ohio (a suburb of Columbus for those that don't know) and they are ALL in denial. It's freakin hilarious. It is seriously cult like here. You bring it up they change the subject instantly. They had no problem bringing up all the issues that Michigan had and I'd talk about all of it.
Honestly, I know Tressel has done a lot of good things in Columbus and is a good person, but given the fact that he lied and tried to cover up the entire thing is just disappointing. He should be fired and OSU should be pusnished. I do think there is more to the story and that there is possible a cover up of some sorts with Gene Smith and Gordon Gee, but since Tressel can fire them both, it's easier for him to take the hit.
GO BLUE!!
"Pryor is a repeat offender of Academic All-Big Ten honors."
Hmm... double entendre? I've met the guy. I've heard him speak. He is not an Academic All Big Ten type guy. Things would get really interesting if the library geek who does his schoolwork would come forward...
April 26th, 2011 at 10:43 PM ^
My friend (my only OSU friend) was his tutor last year. She thought he was an idiot.
April 27th, 2011 at 12:02 AM ^
His research paper suggests that he does his own work though
these guys got tats, sold football paraphenelia. It was very low-grade criminality. Busting them fast--as it was his contractual obligation to do--would have been the quickest way to stanch the wound. Now, maybe Tress had been eye-to-eye with lots more of this stuff, down through the years, but. . .
People keep making the players' actions out to be crimes. They're not.
I'll have to check TP's 2010 tax return first.
April 26th, 2011 at 11:27 PM ^
Even then, exchanging memorabilia for tattoos is not a crime. Failing to report that he exchanged goods and earned income is a crime, but it has nothing to do with the actions that lead to the potential income.
April 26th, 2011 at 10:51 PM ^
proving my larger point--it wasn't such a huge deal to begin with. Tressel stuck his stupid finger in the socket by not dealing with it, which had possibly become SOP with him after years of such shenanigans.
If at first you dont succeed, try, try again.