Did last night strenghten the case for an 8-team playoff?

Submitted by Coach Nero on

Because Alabama was a non-conference champion, does that strengthen the call for an 8-team playoff?  I believe they were the best team, and if Wisconsin had beaten Ohio State, Bama wouldn't have even made the final four.  

Also, most people here are anti-Saban, but I get a little satisfaction each time they win because I know deep down it kills some Sparty fans to know he was their coach at one time and left for greener pastures.

wayneandgarth

January 9th, 2018 at 1:25 PM ^

On the contrary, the CFP clearly to me had the four best teams playing and no more were needed.  They represented themselves very well.  That's not to say future years won't have the best four selected (or last year) but this year's playoffs sure didn't improve a case to expand.

Also - the more games added, the greater chance the whole damn thing will be decided by injuries.

superstringer

January 9th, 2018 at 1:34 PM ^

No

Each year there are maybe 1 or 2 teams with colorable beefs they were excluded. OSU this year; PSU last year; TCU and Baylor the first year; etc. There has never been a situation where 4 teams all had legit gripes.

So going to 8 teams just opens the door for some wannabes to ignore their clear problems -- a bad loss (USC), lousy schedule (UCF or Wiscy), etc.

Maybe a 6 team would be justified but not 8, at least in terms of moral right to it. I still think a 16 team tourney would rock but just for the fun of it. Heck, the FCS is 24 teams right?

blueinbeantown

January 9th, 2018 at 1:43 PM ^

But it must be capped at 8, no expansion beyond.  Power 5 conference champions get an automatic with 3 at large.  Seed similar to the NFL in that Conference champions are automatic top 5.  Would suck being the 5 seed and having to go on the road but it is what it is!  

Have no opinion on home games v neutral site, including the quarterfinal games.  From an economic standpoint, maybe the quarterfinal games at home stadium with semi and championship games following the same pattern.  I like the fact that the first 10 championship games are going to be at 10 different sites.  

NittanyFan

January 9th, 2018 at 1:53 PM ^

if any of these 3 games break differently, Alabama is out of the playoff and we're talking about somebody else right now as the National Champion (Saban might owe JT Barrett a ring):

(1) If PSU hangs on and beats OSU.  Even with a loss the next week at MSU, PSU would be 11-1 and win the East.  The B1G title game vs. 12-0 Wisconsin is likely for a playoff spot: the narrow PSU loss at MSU is likely forgiveable by the committee, especially given the win in Columbus.

(2) If OSU doesn't lay that egg at Iowa.  The B1G title game is 11-1 OSU vs. 12-0 Wisconsin and the winner is probably guaranteed a spot.  OSU can overcome the Oklahoma loss because they have a number of wins that are higher quality than what Alabama can point to. 

(3) If Wisconsin beats OSU in the actual B1G title game.

I'm an advocate for moving beyond 4 so there's larger access for the likes of UCF or outstanding TCU/Utah teams in the past.  6 or 8, I could go for either.  But one thing about 4, it makes EVERY regular season game mean a whole lot.  There's a whole lot to be said for that.

the Glove

January 9th, 2018 at 1:50 PM ^

Nope, I'm anti going anything above four teams. The season is the most important thing in college football and everybody seems to just want to muddy the water.

CryingMagnus

January 9th, 2018 at 2:35 PM ^

Two other divisions already have a playoff.  

There's already a model in place.

Use it big-time schools (and presidents).

uminks

January 9th, 2018 at 2:55 PM ^

1 vs 8, 2 vs 7, 3 vs 6 and 4 vs 5. All P5 conference champions would be ranked in the top 8. Then there will be 3 buys to the other top 8 ranked team either in a P5 conference or outside. These first round game would be played at the home site of the higher ranked teams, then bowl contract through the next 12 years can take over with the 4 winners (just like the current 4 team playoffs agree in the contract). After that dumb contract is up, I would  have home series with the top ranked team winners then play the championship game at a different site, which could be indoor arenas in northern cities, such as ford field or the Indy dome.

If not 8 teams we should go with Brian's idea of 6 teams playoff scenario.

Red is Blue

January 9th, 2018 at 3:02 PM ^

So you go to an 8 team playoff and the first time that a lower seed gets hot and runs the table, the 9th, 10th and and 11th place teams will have a claim that too could have run the table and should have a chance to prove it on the field.  Thus we go to 16.

Lather, rinse repeat.

The structure of college football with heavy emphasis on conference play and vast differences in SoS, simply does not lend itself well to a playoff format.

Mongo

January 9th, 2018 at 5:29 PM ^

and the division structure is an impediment to qualifying teams into the playoffs and render the title games as one of the least important criteria for the CFP.

Better structure for P5 playoffs would be to:

  1. Eliminate conference divisions
  2. Expand conference seasons to 10 games
  3. Restrict FCS opponents to one per season
  4. Expand playoffs to 8 teams
  5. First round in neutral NFL sites, the week immediately after regular season ends (in place of the conference title games / revenue sharing needed as an offset)
  6. Semifinals on New Years Day
  7. Finals on a Saturday night after NYD

Conference titles would be based upon the old format ... W-L record and league tie breaker rules.  So conference title gives a team bragging rights and a banner, but the body of a season's quality wins is all that really matters to the CFP rankings. 

Tony Soprano

January 9th, 2018 at 5:53 PM ^

Make it 16 teams and I'm all in!  Non-playoff bowl games are boring, but making them playoff games instead would increase excitement, viewership, and obviosy revenue. 

Wolverine_in_n…

January 9th, 2018 at 5:56 PM ^

What needs to happen is condense the top tier of football to 60 teams and they play a 11 game season with 9 conference games and 2 non conference games. You get to play 1 team from outside the top tier, that would help fund smaller schools, and 1 from the top tier. After 11 games the teams we have a conference championship and the auto bids go to the 6 conferences and 6 at large. Top 2 get a bye and the highest seed gets home field until the semis.
Semis use the format created now. Gives us a real champion and allows a champion for the lower level schools. The NCAA would like as it would give them more money, as that's all they care about.