m_go_T

May 19th, 2021 at 11:03 AM ^

As a Tigers fan, I was super excited to wake up today to find out that Spencer threw the no-hitter while sitting on my Fantasy Baseball team's bench.  To add insult to injury, I started Yusei Kikuchi instead of Turnbull this week, who was shelled by the Tigers the night before.  

rob f

May 19th, 2021 at 11:06 AM ^

Here's a 9 1/2 minute video of the game highlights (plays only, not including each individual play and pitch) for those like me who missed all or part of the game.  

Tigers vs. Mariners Game Highlights (5/18/21) | M…: https://youtu.be/_P-PQjFM-8E

The audio is a combination of both the Dan Dickerson radio call and the Bally Sports Detroit TV broadcast.  Nicely done!

Hail to the Vi…

May 19th, 2021 at 1:13 AM ^

Nice! Turnbull was quietly a pretty solid pitcher last year. The Tigers are pre-occupied trying to develop Mize, Skubal and Manning into marquee, top-of-the-rotation pitchers (not that they shouldn't be, especially with Mize). Meanwhile Turnbull has been a guy a lot of teams would love to have in the 4th or 5th rotation spot. It doesn't surprise me he's capable of throwing a no-no, he has some really good stuff.

KO Stradivarius

May 19th, 2021 at 1:28 AM ^

Ugh, don't remind me.  When I watched that game I could not understand how all of the umpires couldn't have caucused together and changed the call.  It was so obvious.  

Congrats to Turnbull.  His pitches have so much movement that it seems he just needed to harness it before he would be great.  That day came today.

Sam1863

May 19th, 2021 at 8:39 AM ^

Every time I hear somebody bitch about how instant replay slows down baseball, I always reply that if it had existed then, Galarraga's name would be in the Hall of Fame where it belongs. It wouldn't have taken five minutes to give the kid what he deserved. Instead, Joyce's fuck-up will last forever.

M_Born M_Believer

May 19th, 2021 at 11:07 AM ^

I might be on an island here, but while it is all well and good the Joyce has apologized repeatedly about his gaff, I can't help to think that IF he truly knew he blew the call at that moment, he should have huddle with the other umps and man'd up and changed the call on the field after the con'fab.

But no, had to save face at the moment.  I get it, umps need to be respected for what they do in all sports, but the are not perfect and can make mistakes.  I believe NO ONE would have bagged on Joyce had he man up at the time and changed the call.

I recall vividly, they were replaying that moment over and over again on the scoreboard so EVERYONE knew it was a blown call (and it was not even close, that's the sad part.....).

Yay, Umps should never 2nd guess themselves, but there are always exceptions to rules.  As the saying goes, there are only 2 certain things in life.....death and taxes...

ahw1982

May 19th, 2021 at 11:58 AM ^

Unpopular opinion maybe but the way both Jim Joyce and Armando Galarraga responded to the situation was way more inspiring and significant than a technical perfect game would have been.

Jim Joyce showed genuine remorse for his mistake.

Armando Galarraga showed unfathomable grace in how he reacted.

We live in a world where most people don't apologize for their fuckups, they just dig their heels, or cover it up.  We also live in a world where, if someone else fucks up, it's acceptable to respond with maximum retribution and demand your pound of flesh.

The Joyce/Galarraga situation is like a shining historical beacon of human empathy that feels like its getting slowly snuffed out by ever increasing ruthlessness and divisiveness.  I'd argue that the fond memories from thinking back on that situation is worth more to the world than some line item in a baseball stat book.

Angry-Dad

May 19th, 2021 at 1:40 PM ^

Agree and disagree.  I appreciate Joyce being contrite after the fact, but he was having none of it when it was clear to everyone he missed the call on the field.  You have to understand the moment you are in and simply cannot miss that call (if anything you error on the side of the out) and he missed it by a clear step.

Totally agree about Galarrage.  He was a decent not great major league starter and had his chance at baseball immortality stolen from him and was nothing but first class all the way in his reaction.  The people who witnessed it (specifically Tiger fans) will remember him being robbed, but years from now no one will remember.  Granted I don't and assume most people don't know the names of everyone that has thrown a perfect game, but I can easily look it up and his name will never be there.

Respect the opinion, but I think a Perfect Game is more than some stat line, but I get your bigger point about human empathy and understanding.  It is sorely missing from way too many aspects of society.  After the fact they both handled it with grace. 

DrJatSB

May 19th, 2021 at 6:19 AM ^

Red Bull! These Tigers are finally starting to be fun to watch again. Certainly a diamond in the rough. For most of this season the starting rotation has led the league in ERA. Young players showing much potential in Mize, Skubal, Soto, Baddoo, Candelario. A lock down closer in Fuller. One of the best managers in the game. Hinch has them staying loose, interchanging positions often, stealing bases regularly. Using high end analytics in every phase of the game. 

KO Stradivarius

May 19th, 2021 at 2:17 PM ^

I do think that pitching is much better than it used to be. More guys throwing upper 90’s, enabled by better fitness & less pitches per outing, more spin, better bullpens, less pitching to contact, fewer soft tossers, better analytics, not to mention The Shift, etc. Tough to compare eras. The game has evolved, not always for the better…

Blue Vet

May 19th, 2021 at 7:24 AM ^

I'm not sure which surprises me more, that the Tigers have 8 no-hitters (!) or that they only have 8. There are some long gaps between them.

From the Detroit News:

May 18, 2021: Spencer Turnbull vs. Seattle Mariners, 5-0

May 7, 2011: Justin Verlander vs. Toronto Blue Jays, 9-0

June 12, 2007: Justin Verlander vs. Milwaukee Brewers, 4-0

April 7, 1984: Jack Morris vs. Chicago White Sox, 4-0

July 20, 1958: Jim Bunning vs. Boston Red Sox, 3-0

Aug. 25, 1952: Virgil Trucks vs. New York Yankees, 1-0

May 15, 1952: Virgil Trucks vs. Washington Senators, 1-0

July 4, 1912: George Mullin vs. St. Louis Browns, 7-0

Brian Griese

May 19th, 2021 at 7:46 AM ^

Third no hitter (actually 4 since we all know Galarraga threw a perfecto) by a Tigers pitcher in my lifetime and I didn't see one inning of it - sad because I watched all 9 innings of both JV no hitters and the imperfect game.

Anyways, the gap from 84-07 really isn't too much of a shock considering how atrocious the tigers pitching staff was 1989-2005 combined with the steroid era.  What is most surprising to me is Denny McLain didn't throw one in 1968 - a quick dive through the boxscores of that season shows several shutouts he threw and only gave up 3-5 hits but not a no-no.  

Sam1863

May 19th, 2021 at 9:06 AM ^

Wilcox was my team's coach at Fantasy Camp. We all got a quiet word from one of the other Tigers: DON'T bring up the lost perfect game - it's still a sore spot with Milt. We all understood, and I never even considered it. Some things shouldn't be joked about.

St Joe Blues

May 19th, 2021 at 8:11 AM ^

I was in high school when Morris threw his. Some buddies and I were hanging out at the mall. We went out to the car to head home and heard about the no-hitter on the radio. We ran back into Penney's TV department and switched all the TVs to the Tiger game to watch the 9th inning. We had a cheering crowd watching it with us.

Moleskyn

May 19th, 2021 at 7:35 AM ^

Their pitching staff is quietly rounding into form here.

Boyd is steady at the top

Mize has strung together 4 quality starts and his stuff is looking nasty.

Turnbull with the no-no, and has been decent otherwise.

Ureña has been decent overall.

Skubal has shown flashes, but as the others step up it takes pressure off him. No need to be a top of the rotation guy right now when others are filling those roles.

Keep an eye on Matt Manning in Toledo. He'll be the next one up, though he's fighting through some injuries at the moment.

Also, Riley Greene (currently in Erie) and Spencer Torkelson (in West Michigan) are two young sluggers to keep an eye on. They are probably still a couple years away from contributing at the MLB level, but they have top-top potential.