Detroit Cass Tech Head Coach Thomas Wilcher to Michigan State (Rumor)

Submitted by Jimmyisgod on June 25th, 2021 at 12:33 PM

Rumors are not confirmed, but not denied and Wilcher reportedly told his players Monday.  Being talked about on the Wolverine.com/  MSU's RCMB staff basically confirming and that he's already hired and on campus for a non on field coaching position.

This would lock MSU out of Cass Tech for 2 years, but I don't think that's a big deal.

Hope it's a false rumor.  Bellamy is younger and has nearly the pull, but Wilcher, a former U of M player is the Don of the high school football scene in Detroit. 

guthrie

June 25th, 2021 at 12:46 PM ^

Well that would eliminate them from recruiting Deone Walker this year and Jalen Thompson next year so I guess that's one positive to take from it.  

OldSchoolWolverine

June 25th, 2021 at 12:47 PM ^

Bellamy is and was new big shot in Detroit, winning titles.  But too bad we didn't get Wilcher too.  

Say what you want about Tucker, but he seems to recruit portal guys and coaches well, aside from beating us with Lombardi.

cobra14

June 25th, 2021 at 1:05 PM ^

I really don’t care what Wilcher does but Bellamy finally won his one state title after having teams just loaded with talent but totally getting out coached in playoffs many many times(he wasn’t the new big shot at all!). Wilcher has and would be better and has proven that for many many years

VicTorious1

June 25th, 2021 at 2:20 PM ^

Bellamy's team during his first five years (in a complete rebuild) was 21-27.  The years before he was hired, WB was a .500 team.  Perhaps you think they (Crowell and Bellamy) all look the same.  Haha.

2010: 3-6

2011: 2-7

2012: 2-7

2013: 5-5

2014: 9-2

2015: 9-1

2016: 6-5

2017: 11-3

2018: 9-3

2019: 10-2

2020: 11-1 (State Champs)

cobra14

June 25th, 2021 at 2:28 PM ^

Cool thanks for the stats. Guy didn’t hold up one bit in the playoffs except for this past Covid year despite having a ton of talent.

Bellamy stole everyone’s kids and better coaches with way less talent abused him in playoffs. 
 

Bellamy is a heck of a recruiter he is far from a great coach. But Hey I know the Michigan faithful well and most of you are “Don’t you say a bad word about our coaches” 

bronxblue

June 25th, 2021 at 3:44 PM ^

Hey, I've come to expect a subset of the Michigan faithful to constantly complain about everything and revise history to doggedly support their claims , such as ones that assumed a coach inherited tons of talent and constantly wasted it despite evidence provided that wasn't the case.

AZBlue

June 25th, 2021 at 1:38 PM ^

Not sure what HS teachers/coaches make in Detroit, but you are WAY off base if you think he will be making 6-10x his previous salary in an off-field role at MSU.  
 

Per the googles, Aashon Larkins made $80k last year (before his promotion).  Jay Harbaugh, now with multiple years as a P5 on-field assistant and ace recruiter reputation- made $415k in 2020 — One sixth of that is about $70k.

Is it a smart decision if he wants to move up the coaching ranks?  Absolutely.  Look at Partridge and Campanile as recent M examples.  Obviously the “no-recruiting from that school for 2 years if not an on-field position” complicates things a bit,  but it wasn’t like Tucker was going to be pulling in many top kids from Detroit/MI short-term anyway with Hart, Bellamy, and Clickscale on the M staff.

Don

June 25th, 2021 at 1:59 PM ^

I'm well aware that players becoming coaches at their bitterest rivals isn't unheard of—Darrell Royal played at Oklahoma but became a coaching legend at Oklahoma. Gary Moeller was team captain at OSU but followed Bo to Ann Arbor from Miami.

If I had beaten my brains out for four years against OSU or MSU or ND while playing for Michigan, it would have to be a significant step upwards for me to coach at any of those places. An off the field position doesn't seem like that to me.

ak47

June 25th, 2021 at 2:21 PM ^

A thing fans consistently overrate is the way a rivalry plays off the field for players compared to fans. For players its the game that matters, but off the field they are much more connected to the players at those other schools than they are to the fans. 

Going from high school to college is a jump up. Its clear from this move this is something Wilcher wanted, and if he wasn't getting a better offer this is his way of breaking into the college ranks.

BroadneckBlue21

June 25th, 2021 at 5:14 PM ^

You think Devin Bush is closer to Sparty players than UM fans? I'm sure that what you say is true for some, but who is to say that this is the rule--especially with a rivalry. 

Money matters. Promotion matters. If Wilcher is "bored" and wants to move up, that was likely the biggest part of the move.

VicTorious1

June 25th, 2021 at 2:30 PM ^

"If I had..." You can stop right there because you didn't play for UM.  Fans are delusional.  You've tied your self worth to a team that you root for.  Players on the other hand rarely do.  Get this... some of the UM players are actually friends with OSU players.  For shame. 

Hell, the players at OSU, MSU or ND that you beat your brains out for in certain instances were teammates of yours in high school, peewee, etc.  A job is a job.  If UM had seen a former player toiling in the HS ranks and failed to offer him a similar position over that time, he should gladly pursue his profession at another institution that will.

WayOfTheRoad

June 25th, 2021 at 3:07 PM ^

This. Fans have a delusional sense of reality when it comes to the profession of coaching. If you want to coach you go where they'll pay you to coach. Ya know, like a profession. Doesn't matter where you played ball beyond the obvious desire to work your profession at the place you know/love. That's it.

 

Witcher clearly wanted to be at the college level for a while and flirted with UM in that capacity before. Rather, flip that. Yet, it never came to be and then MSU made that offer. He took it (it seems). As he should have if he wanted to be at the college level.

 

It's why I didn't even get upset about Mattison. He's a coach and he had limited time left. He wanted to be a DC again and have a chance to win. Going to OSU is a no-brainer in that regard when his current employer is sticking with another guy that doesn't agree with your philosophy at all. It's business. Mattison didn't light a cigar, cackle with glee and dance out of AA. Witcher won't either. He'll do the job MSU is paying him to do, same for any other coach.

True Blue Grit

June 25th, 2021 at 1:07 PM ^

I can kind of understand someone wanting to advance themselves professionally through a step up the ladder (like H.S. to college).  What I DON'T get is 2 former U-M athletes like the Boren's totally flipping their allegiance and becoming totally assimilated into the Buckeye collective, then sending all their kids to play there.