UM Indy

December 17th, 2022 at 3:04 PM ^

Think so. Offer, acceptance, consideration equals legal contract. While some might argue a scholarship offer has those same elements and kids can change their mind on that, it seems NIL (real money) is a step further than a scholarship offer. Without splitting hairs, there is no doubt NIL will be litigated in some form or fashion. 

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vablue

December 17th, 2022 at 3:18 PM ^

A scholarship offer is certainty real money.  But you don’t get it until you are in school and already doing football things.  So this was never an issue with scholarships.  With NIL, there would clearly be a contract and you would need to return the money.  Presumably, that would be part of your new NIL deal and they would pay it back for you.

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ERdocLSA2004

December 17th, 2022 at 3:33 PM ^

Have not seen or heard ANYTHING having to do with NIL contractual obligations pertaining to an athletes school of choice.  NIL money to do commercials for local businesses and such, sure.  I would be absolutely shocked if the money changing hands before a kid enrolls gets refunded if they change their commitment.

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JonnyHintz

December 17th, 2022 at 3:55 PM ^

NIL isn’t pay for play and by rule cannot be pay for play. As a result, it cannot be contingent upon playing at a certain school. NIL is strictly about usage of name, image and likeness outside of the playing field. 
 

So no, there is nothing in the contracts stating they would have to pay the money back. Such a contract would be direct admission to the NCAA of rules violations. 

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Picktown GoBlue

December 18th, 2022 at 1:09 AM ^

Here's what happened with the mulleted Buckeye QB:

[Quinn] Ewers signed a three-year deal with Columbus-based Ricart Automotive that included the use of a “customized 2020 Ford F250 Super Duty pickup truck” and an appearance in a series of ads, one of which “aired locally during the Ohio State-Michigan game.” Dealership President Rick Ricart in the deal “was careful to include a contingency that would null the truck’s lease should Ewers transfer.”

Not contingent on playing (good thing since he had, what, two snaps?), but staying enrolled at the local school.

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rym

December 18th, 2022 at 1:54 AM ^

NIL isn’t pay for play and by rule cannot be pay for play. As a result, it cannot be contingent upon playing at a certain school.

Lawyer here — sentence two does not follow from sentence one. I see no reason that a marketing contract between a private company and an athlete cannot be contingent on where the athlete plays. If some Ann Arbor auto dealership enters into a promotional agreement with a Michigan Football player, I can’t imagine that the contract doesn’t include conditions requiring the athlete to play for Michigan to be eligible for compensation under the deal.

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vablue

December 17th, 2022 at 5:26 PM ^

There is no way those deals are not contingent on where they play.  If I am a business in Oregon I do not want to have someone from CA promoting my stuff.  The NCAA can not limit those deals as long as they are not from the school. NIL deals absolutely can be contingent on where an athlete plays.

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bronxblue

December 17th, 2022 at 4:04 PM ^

I'm surprised he isn't looking at ASU, as UCLA this year was highly dependent on seniors and transfers and it's not a given that future Bruins teams will have nearly the firepower we saw this season.  And Chip Kelly, while still a smart offensive mind, doesn't strike me as overly innovative the past couple of years.

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S.G. Rice

December 17th, 2022 at 1:58 PM ^

UCLA?  Is that how people are spelling TUCK now?

How could Moore possibly pass up the chance to play in East Lansing for a coach who once lead his team to a third place finish in their division?

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wolve1972

December 17th, 2022 at 2:12 PM ^

More booster money? Whoops, I meant NIL money. I think I can safely say that CF - as we knew it - is long gone. I was all for the kids getting a fair "piece of the pie" , but this is getting crazy now with some of the reported NIL money being reported out there.

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