Cover: Canada's top pediatric hospital recommends school re-openings without masks or social distancing
Interesting recommendations from The Hospital for Sick Children in Toronto, a part of the University of Toronto, which issued guidelines to schools in Canada. After listing the facts about the low risk children face from Covid they make specific recommendations of no (mandatory) masks for children and no social distancing:
"However, strict physical distancing should not be emphasized to children in the school setting as it is not practical and could cause significant psychological harm. Close interaction, such as playing and socializing is central to child development and should not be discouraged."
"In fact, if worn incorrectly, it could lead to increased risk of infection and it is not practical for a child to wear a mask properly for the duration of a school day. It is noteworthy that several European countries have had children successfully return to school without face masks."
There are 11 pages of explanations with research footnotes but that was the surprising gist of the report:
Oh one other thing they spend time discussing how distance learning and video learning are not good for kids as compared to in-person. This is likely less controversial.
*Covid*
What does this have to do with University of Michigan athletics? Create an account on Reddit and post any topic you like.
Since sports are currently not happening what do you suggest people discuss? If you don't like it, piss off.
The suggestion is to discuss topics unrelated to U of M on other platforms. Yesterday, there was a nice post about Larry Prout graduating high school with honors. Very few comments.
You do realize that the University of Michigan is a school, right? Yes, the students are older than the kids discussed in the article, but might there be some lessons there for the university community?
Universities are collections of schools and colleges, so there could be some take aways, but the study had nothing to do with athletics.
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Unrelated to the University of Michigan. The study came from the University of Toronto.
There aren't any fucking athletics. Don't click on the thread.
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I didn't grow up in a major metropolitan area so my hillbilly roots put me at a severe cognitive disadvantage preventing me from even slightly comprehending the world's simplest concepts.
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Makes sense. Forcing children to wear masks and social distance would be futile and chaotic.
Like herding cats.
Cats, on meth, with opposable thumbs, and with just enough knowledge to be dangerous
You just described a chimpanzee.
...or drop bears (koalas).
Proper drop bear PPE
Even with all that protection, this is the moment she got a terminal dose of chlamydia.
To paraphrase an underappreciated movie: Chlamydia would be a beautiful name for a girl if it wasn't also a horrible disease.
I think underestimate the current generation that is in elementary school. They actually have empathy for one another and can understand the concept of "the greater good." Social distancing may not work, but I think masks definitely could
In the 90s, when I was in elementary school, we also had empathy for one another and understood the concepts of the greater good.
Get with the program, my furry cousin. Empathy was invented last year. I learned it from my early 20s kids and I gave up the whole axe-murdering, serial killer thing.
True, but you're also living proof that apes can evolve with proper social retraining and rehabilitation.
Have you met children?
What age group are you talking about? For 16-year-olds, having empathy might well lead to wearing masks. For 6 year olds? They can have all the empathy in the world (and many do), but most simply lack the self control for that to translate into not touching their faces, even if they knew that it was important.
Lol same
Come on, 6-year olds never pick their noses.
Lol same...
You may be able to do it for secondary students, but for elementary it would be a fool's errand. The most you could realistically do is have them go to school (or lunch/recess) in shifts.
But that's OK. Our goal shouldn't be to have zero people infected, it's to keep infections at a manageable level. You don't need 100% of the population to wear masks but if you can get a solid chunk of the population doing it, that makes a difference.
Literally happening in Korea right now. Depends on the school or district, but almost all kids are in school with staggered schedules and they're wearing masks.
and even there positive cases among students have come up and schools have closed.
The virus is going to spread. It's just a matter of degree. We have to decide what is the acceptable degree of spread for us to tolerate.
As a pediatric nurse, this is not true. Children are significantly more malleable and compliant than adults. Adults are the major problem here.
that's true, certain kids (even age 6-8) can become extremely militant about following certain rules...
What's the harm in infecting their parents, grandparents or family members with existing medical conditions that make them more likely to die from the virus?
Did you read the document? It has a section on public health and guidance to mitigate the spread from children to family members.
The point is that there is harm if no precautions are taken, and harm if they go too far in a school environment. I have to trust that the people who put together this 10 page document with 30 references know what they're talking about.
I read it. My point is they are kids, and shit will happen regardless of the precautions they implement. His point about which is more harmful, no contact or contact for the kids. My point is, it might be harmful ( physical and mental health )for them not to have contact with others, but with that comes the other possibly more harmful outcomes. As an adult, try to go 1hr without touching your face. Imagine how hard that will be for a child.
There's certainly a risk there, but what are they supposed to do? IF schools do reopen, there's a 0% chance that you're going to get 30 first graders in one room to wear a mask and stay 6 feet apart.
So I’ve seen the Liberal and Conservative posts on the world today.... when’s the Libertarian one coming out? Noon?
I'm a proud Libertarian and I endorse this post
Here here.
Whenever the Libertarians feel like it. We don't follow anybody's timeline.