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Coach K, Mason Plumlee talk court storming safety after Virginia loss

Following Duke’s 73-68 loss to Virginia on Thursday night, the Cavaliers’ student section rushed onto the court as soon as the final buzzer rang, giving neither team ample time to prepare for the masses that flocked to the hardwood...

“Just get our team off the court, and our coaching staff, before students come on,” Krzyzewski said.

The two key issues—players’ and staff safety and players’ reactions—seemed to be ignored by the Virginia security, as fans were allowed to rush the court from all angles, including the Duke bench’s side...

There also is another variable in the court-storming safety equation—the reaction of Duke players. It’s potentially volatile for the players to be in that situation following an unexpected road loss in which emotions were running high.

“If they run at us, it’s fair game. We’re just protecting ourselves,” senior Mason Plumlee said...

 

http://sports.chronicleblogs.com/2013/03/01/coach-k-mason-plumlee-talk-court-storming-safety-after-virginia-loss/

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March 1st, 2013 at 7:20 AM | He's right. There should be (Score:5 Normal)
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He's right. There should be something done to get the losing team off the court asap. It is a matter of time until something bad  happens between fans and opposing players. It would be wise to put safety measures in place beforehand.

"You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life." - Winston Churchill

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March 1st, 2013 at 9:15 AM | Bad things happening - it already has ... (Score:5 Normal)
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I believe there were two incidents in the late 90s/early 2000s involving Nebraska football and Miami (OH) football players walking off the field as the crowd stormed it. In both cases a player, having lost, ended up striking fans (of course they were drunk) who were charging the field and intimidating them.



I might sound like an old man, but fans - you didn't win the game. You cheered but your participation rarely changes things. Celebrate in the stands - you don't need to rush the court, particularly more than once every few years.



And yes, GET OFF MY LAWN!

Using the term Wildcat to describe a direct snap to anyone other than a QB is like calling any rock band from the early 90s Grunge.

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March 1st, 2013 at 10:31 AM | I believe (Score:5 Normal)
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there was another unfortunate incident with a Stanford band member and a trombone.  Very tragic.

The Team, The Team, The Team

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March 1st, 2013 at 3:41 PM | Agreed. Besides, rushing the (Score:0 Overrated)
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Agreed.

Besides, rushing the court for a regular season game is for amateurs, it's a bush league move.

At Duke we only rush the court for a national title.

#actlikeyouvebeentherebefore

 

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March 1st, 2013 at 7:22 AM | I completely agree with what (Score:3 Normal)
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I completely agree with what Coach K said, even if it was brought up because they lost. The players are in danger, and so are the fans (I wouldn't want an angry Mason Plumlee punching me out of self defense).

I don't know who's hair is better, John Stamos circa Full House or Denard

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March 1st, 2013 at 10:36 AM | You might have to teach (Score:5 Normal)
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Plumlee how to make a fist with his thumb on the outside. Something tells me the only altercation he's ever been involved in was a conflict with his family butler about eating cookies before dinner.

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March 1st, 2013 at 1:04 PM | Hey I am sure he knows how to (Score:3 Normal)
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Hey I am sure he knows how to slap open fist!

I don't know who's hair is better, John Stamos circa Full House or Denard

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March 1st, 2013 at 7:31 AM | Agree with Coach K but not (Score:3 Normal)
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Agree with Coach K but not with Plumlee. No one should become "fair game" to hit or whatever he was saying by coming out to celebrate their win unless it's actually done in a threatening way.

Still, fans are stupid and this will lead to cheap shots on players of the losing team a la Malice at the Palace.

-Eternal guardian of the Prevent (you from winning) Defense

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March 1st, 2013 at 8:42 AM | Bad Analogy (Score:5 Normal)
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Bad analogy - if I remember correctly the Pacers were whipping the Pistons that night at the Palace and the game hadn't even ended yet. That was more a fan taking a cheap shot at an a-hole who had just cheap shot Ben Wallace and then decided to take a nap on the scorer's table. Though still ill-advised, it's very different from taking cheap shots at a losing player who is simply trying to walk off the court in disappointment. 

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March 1st, 2013 at 9:43 AM | The Artest foul on Wallace (Score:-1 Flamebait)
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The Artest foul on Wallace wasn't a cheap shot.  It was a typical foul but Wallace was pissed they were losing, so he went after Artest (Metta World Peace now I suppose).

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March 1st, 2013 at 9:58 AM | It may not have been a cheap shot (Score:3 Normal)
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It may not have been a cheap shot in the purest sense of the word, but it definitely wasn't a typical foul either, especially given the situation of the game. The Pacers were leading by 15 with 45 seconds left and Artest hammered Wallace in the head/neck area when he went up for a layup. I'll give you that Wallace was pissed he was losing, but Artest was definitely antagonizing.

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March 1st, 2013 at 10:04 AM | But if it was the other way (Score:-1 Flamebait)
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But if it was the other way around, most people would say Wallace did the right thing.  You never give up an easy lay up, no matter what the situtation.

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March 1st, 2013 at 10:37 AM | Nope (Score:5 Normal)
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Nope

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March 1st, 2013 at 12:55 PM | Artest also talked shit (Score:5 Normal)
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About Ben's momma, who died a few days prior, and Ben had just returned from her funeral.

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March 1st, 2013 at 7:42 AM | Oh Whatever (Score:-1 Normal)
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Fans rush the court all the time. Deal with it coach K.

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March 1st, 2013 at 8:04 AM | I recall many people, (Score:1)
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I recall many people, including Duke fans, hating on Roy Williams for sending his players into the locker room early last year against FSU when they got blown out there. Doesnt seem like a bad idea now.



I also agree with Plumlee. You have to protect yourself. Im not saying to deliberately go hit someone, but there are thousands of fans rushing the court in every direction, so you have to be ready for anything.



Look at the nut case fan from Iowa St who tried to go after Bill Self after Kansas beat them in OT. People are crazy and you have to be on your guard at all times.

THOSE WHO STAY WILL BE CHAMPIONS

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March 1st, 2013 at 9:14 AM | Being on you're guard (Score:-1 Overrated)
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Is a must, but it's a sort of a spare of the moment thing that you MAY have to do depending on hiw the fans are, but not all fans are like that so you can't say it just do it, and then explain why after the fact.

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March 1st, 2013 at 9:24 AM | Huh? (Score:4 Funny)
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Wha?  Spell much? (you're, spare, hiw)

Should we point instead of fist pump during the Victors?

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March 1st, 2013 at 9:50 AM | I think you get the point (Score:-1 Trolling)
get-on-my-lawn
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And if not, IDGAF

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March 1st, 2013 at 12:41 PM | Not sure what's more offensive (Score:4 Normal)
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your avatar, your spelling or the fact that you almost have enough points to make your own content.

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March 1st, 2013 at 2:24 PM | Before anyone else does (Score:5 Normal)
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I'm drafting him in our "most likely to be banned" MGoDeadPool.

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March 1st, 2013 at 2:49 PM | Ok, I'll give you him (Score:2 Normal)
inthebluelot
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But I get to draft Mr Rager.

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March 1st, 2013 at 4:30 PM | Well played. (Score:2)
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Rager has enough history that I think they might cut him slack a little longer, but I was hoping he'd slide to the second round.

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March 1st, 2013 at 5:35 PM | You have a point, (Score:3 Funny)
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I'm just hoping that phork is still on the board in the 4th round, where Brady Quinn belonged.

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March 1st, 2013 at 2:22 PM | so you can't say it just do (Score:2)
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so you can't say it just do it

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March 1st, 2013 at 10:04 AM | I don't know about others, (Score:3 Normal)
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I don't know about others, but I thought the issue with UNC last year was that he sent all his coaching staff and starters off the court, and walked out leaving 5 random bench players by themselves

If you're doing nothing, how do you know when you're finished?

StraightDave owes me a steak dinner

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March 1st, 2013 at 7:58 AM | Agree with both (Score:1)
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There needs to be some form of "organized chaos" in these situations. Isn't this the reason Duke took their players to the locker room early a year or two ago?



“You don’t know what’s gonna happen,” Plumlee said. “Guys shouldn’t be defenseless. Half these people are drunk, you don’t know what’s gonna happen.”



Protect yourself and the team.

"For the last 28 years, I've spent my life in the greatest of places, the University of Michigan." -Lloyd Carr

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March 1st, 2013 at 8:01 AM | 1 seed up for grabs! (Score:2 Normal)
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Oh, wait...

 

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March 1st, 2013 at 8:21 AM | Even though I agree with him, (Score:1)
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Even though I agree with him, doesn't it seen like he always finds something to complain about after a loss?

When the ADept sells special jerseys and gear, you'll see my picture next to the targeted customer crowd. A sheep.....but a Blue one.....

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March 1st, 2013 at 8:49 AM | He didn't have many (Score:2)
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He didn't have many complaints when Michigan upset #4 Duke in '08.

Touchdown Michigan!

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March 1st, 2013 at 8:35 AM | As much as i dislike him as a person (Score:1)
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Does not discount the fact he is very smart. Court storming is great... But schools should pay a hefty fine for not allowing the opposing team to exit safely.

Its called a royale with cheese

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March 1st, 2013 at 12:38 PM | Agreed. (Score:2)
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Court stormings are pretty easy to predict within the last few minutes. Security should be able to keep fans away and surround the away team quickly to allow them to get off the court safely. I am amazed at how well student athletes have conducted themselves in this chaos. There are thousands of drunk students yelling at you after a tough loss and they are man enough to walk away.

"Always do right. This will gratify some people, and astonish the rest." -Mark Twain


 

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March 1st, 2013 at 8:41 AM | Being Duke, this happens more (Score:2 Normal)
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Being Duke, this happens more frequently after an away loss. This season alone it has happened 4 times.

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March 1st, 2013 at 8:42 AM | Duke is still a bunch of (Score:5 Normal)
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Duke is still a bunch of bitches.

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March 1st, 2013 at 11:57 AM | Don't we all just insert that (Score:3 Normal)
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Don't we all just insert that caveat before every morsel of Duke-related news?

 

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March 1st, 2013 at 8:54 AM | Man I need a drink. (Score:2)
DrunkOnHiggins
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Man I need a drink.

"And if that doesn't wet your appetite, you're watching the wrong channel."

You can usually find me bumping some Reggae, hammered on Higgins Lake with the goon squad. #HALOL

Go Blue!

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March 1st, 2013 at 10:35 AM | .....and... (Score:3 Normal)
kicknback1
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......and then storm the court!

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March 1st, 2013 at 9:16 AM | Imagine if this happened in the NBA (Score:2)
calichrome14
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Fans would get straight worked by the losing team if they rushed the court, it would be a mess (but it is the NBA...)

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March 1st, 2013 at 9:24 AM | Hell, I wouldn't rush the (Score:4 Normal)
MichiganManOf1961
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Hell, I wouldn't rush the court.  Those guys have guns in their lockers and they're willing to use them on teammates... just think what they'd do to fans.

~Herm

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March 1st, 2013 at 9:21 AM | Typical Duke mentality; (Score:3 Normal)
MichiganManOf1961
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Typical Duke mentality; they're special and different rules apply to the Blue Devils than everyone else.  I remember reading about some grad students somewhere who were complaining that they were being heckled for wearing Duke gear in the home team's student section.  They wrote something to the effect of "I have never been so insulted in my life, this would never occur at a place like Duke."  Two weeks later, the Duke student section is chanting "How's you Grandma" at an opposing player who's grandmother had just died. 

-Herm

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March 1st, 2013 at 9:27 AM | Agreed (Score:2)
Yo_Blue
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Duke fans go way past the boundaries in an attempt to be clever.  Many hits, but a few misses along the way.

If you associate with a top program you will be hated by EVERYONE.  Duke fans should be used to it by now (unfortunately).

Should we point instead of fist pump during the Victors?

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March 1st, 2013 at 9:39 AM | Also... *whose.  I'm (Score:3 Normal)
MichiganManOf1961
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Also... *whose.  I'm embarassed.  C'mon Herm, this is Michigan, get it together.

~Herm

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March 1st, 2013 at 9:37 AM | Sore losers (Score:1 Normal)
Tater
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Looks like Coach K is tired of his team being the foil for so many celebrations this year.  He should be thankful that his team is that high on the food chain.  It's like what Michigan is seeing this year; every team plays their "NCAA Tournament Championship Game against them," and their fans storm the court when they win.

It beats the crap out of being irrelevant. 

 

 

 

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March 1st, 2013 at 9:45 AM | This scene is getting all too common, (Score:2 Normal)
ontarioblue
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It is just a matter of time before someone seriously gets injured.  The NCAA needs to step in with huge fines and penalties.  

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March 1st, 2013 at 9:54 AM | Happens often to Duke (Score:1)
Meeeeshigan
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Honestly, I'm surprised they haven't brought this up before. During the broadcast of the game last night, the announcers highlighted the fact that following the past 33 road losses Duke has sustained, the crowd rushed the court 27 times (I apologize if my exact numbers are off, but this is close). In other words, when you're an elite level basketball program, you see this a lot over the years. No wonder they're sick of it. 

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March 1st, 2013 at 10:09 AM | Of course, if Duke were not (Score:2)
Blue In NC
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Of course, if Duke were not almost universally hated by opposing fans, it would probably happen a bit less.

Actually I am surprised this was a big deal.  I watched the end of the game and the security guards seemed to "wall off" the fans from the players just fine.  There must have been some insecure areas that didn't show on TV but it looked like they were doing fine to me.

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March 1st, 2013 at 10:03 AM | Court (Score:1)
ijohnb
Joined: 09/21/2009
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stoming is lame and has gotten entirely out of control.  Penn State was entitled to rush the floor when the beat us, that was a monumental upset.  Virginia is a tournament team, so is Minnesota.  Those are not court-storming wins.  It is an annoying fad and I would like to see it reserved for the Penn State type moments when teams are truly like "Holy shit, did we just win that game?"  Not for a team with a 18-9 record destined for the tournament beats any random top 10 team.

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March 1st, 2013 at 12:02 PM | I disagree with you. Penn St. (Score:1)
jfoust81
Joined: 12/18/2010
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I disagree with you. Penn St. is in the B1G. Virginia is in the ACC. They should win games, even over highly rated teams. This was not North Texas taking down Indiana. Unless its a championship clinching game why storm? It is unnecessary. Celebrate a la most football games.... Players head to the students in the stands!

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March 1st, 2013 at 12:14 PM | Also UVA was favored. It was (Score:1)
MAIZEandBLUE2002
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Also UVA was favored. It was a big win for UVA but come on, it was a game you were expected to win. No court storm necessary.

THOSE WHO STAY WILL BE CHAMPIONS

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March 1st, 2013 at 10:15 AM | Guessing (Score:1)
boliver46
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Duke fans have NEVER stormed the court, eh Coach K?  These were team MANAGERS fergodssakes!  LOL

 

http://www.businessinsider.com/video-fans-storm-the-court-as-duke-team-managers-beat-unc-with-buzzer-beater-2013-2

 

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