Carpetbagger

October 13th, 2021 at 10:56 AM ^

I'm pretty sure they all do this. Or at least all high level college athletes at big time colleges. You can't win football games just working within the practice time allotted by the NCAA.

MRunner73

October 13th, 2021 at 12:37 PM ^

It is this type of willingness to work harder that will elevate this football program. These guys also set a new standard. They will lead by example when they become upper classmen.

Kudos go to those who have the drive and passion to excel of this football team. 

Yes, they make our football program future look bright.

Ezeh-E

October 13th, 2021 at 4:26 PM ^

Not so fast, my friend.

The wide receiver group at Bama did it, but one of their recruits mentioned that is why he chose Bama because while at other schools everyone was out partying, the Bama receivers went to get in extra work.

Similarly, when Jalen Hurts was at Oklahoma working out the morning after a game, it was a big deal.

Yes, some do it, but many/most don't. It's exciting seeing McCarthy and Edwards lead by example and others in their class begin to join them.

It's not the .02% of physical gains that these sessions are useful for. They're useful for camaraderie, trust, and the mental edge of knowing you outworked your competition.

dmac24

October 13th, 2021 at 1:03 PM ^

It’s also easier to do when you played 4-6 snaps the night before rather than playing 40-60. It’s not to say that it’s easy in general, but there’s a reason THESE guys were able to practice rather than, say, Haskins, Corum and Johnson. I play semi-pro football in the summers on both sides of the ball and believe me when I say that my Sundays are spent doing one thing: nothing. ? 

 

But I do love the attitude!

Bo Harbaugh

October 13th, 2021 at 12:24 PM ^

Yes, BAMA, OSU, UGA, Clemson do this , but under the watch of "analysts".

Full time football factories don't give a shit about the NCAA (lol), and many of these "extra" workouts are essentially mandatory for their players.

Great to see our guys realize that while UM may not be willing to go the football factory route, they themselves will need to put in the time on task to compete with elite football factories.

Now completely skipping all in-person classes for full online college experience from the training facility....probably not happpening at UM.  But these players deserve a ton of credit for attempting to close the development gap as much as possible.

Carpetbagger

October 13th, 2021 at 1:21 PM ^

I don't agree about the analysts part. It's possible, but why would it even be necessary? It's just as easy for the analysts to provide them with the information needed to make the most of this extra practice as it is for them to violate rules and watch.

And you people are naive if you think everyone (good) doesn't do this. I bet I've read 20 fluff pieces about Michigan athletes doing similar practice like this over the last 10-15 years alone. It's why culture and athlete leadership gets mentioned so often by the coaches.

crg

October 13th, 2021 at 1:48 PM ^

Maybe "everyone (good)" shouldn't do this when this is supposed to be an academic institution.  When the students are putting in 40+ hours a week (and likely much more, officially or otherwise) on their football work & personal conditioning, how are they expected to be obtaining a real & meaningful academic education... assuming they even go to class and care?

I find football as enjoyable as anyone else here, but these are supposed to be college students first & foremost.  Brian & many others on this blog (let alone the greater college sports world) wanting to blow up the collegiate model and monetize the game to no end, which doesn't help the problem... if anything I would rather completely split off the "varsity" (i.e. semi-pro) revenue sport teams from the university completely (make it a minor league just like in almost every other major sport).  Let's get back to having real students playing the game - which is how these sports became so popular in the first place.  Who cares if the "quality" of the game isn't as good as the pros or semi-pros... the core fans of college football just want to see their school play.

Carpetbagger

October 13th, 2021 at 2:34 PM ^

They haven't been college students first and foremost for my entire adult life. Do you think Bo let his players skip practice to go to class? They work school around practice, not the other way around.

These guys are student athletes, sure, but most of them wouldn't care a thing about college if there was another way to get to the NFL without it. Their job is to play football. They also love that job, and are way more dedicated to that job than most of us are to ours.

That doesn't mean they don't do school. Although I imagine a significant number of them blow the schoolwork off, and do the minimum to stay eligible, most of these kids are driven to excel in everything they do. They also have tutors, and tons of other resources from the school to help them succeed.

After all, a M degree is pretty good payment for services to those of us who paid for school, and realize how valuable that piece of paper is.

 

Carpetbagger

October 13th, 2021 at 5:23 PM ^

As someone who went to a public university I feel qualified to say the stated and apparent purpose of universities have about as much in common as I do with Madonna.

Universities are in business to keep a bunch of administrators (and to a lesser extent teachers) employed. If income wasn't so tightly tied to that piece of paper universities can issue, they'd all be out of business.

I've had more attention paid to me since I graduated, in the form of the endless attempts to get me to donate to the university, than I ever had when I went there. Thank god for the teachers who still gave a shit about doing a good job.

crg

October 13th, 2021 at 7:16 PM ^

Of course... perhaps part of the problem is treating/operating public universities as businesses rather than a public service organization... which, they technically are.

I also say this as someone who attended multiple public universities (UM undergrad), have donated on occasion, and also have worked for them professionally.

JacquesStrappe

October 13th, 2021 at 9:07 PM ^

@crg

I agree with you.  The thing that makes college sports unique is that the students and alums have a common experience shared between them.  It is diminished when the game becomes a diluted form of the pro game and reduces the enthusiasm the further the students and alums are distinct from the players.  

Mike Damone

October 13th, 2021 at 11:00 AM ^

Damn - Love this story!!!

4:30 AM after a road trip to Nebraska?  We should be really proud of these kids.

It is effort and passion like this that will help us build a winning culture and championship team!

Go Blue!!!

Hail to the Vi…

October 13th, 2021 at 11:19 AM ^

Love it! Stay ready so you don't have to get ready young fellas. The demeanor seems different with these young guys compared perhaps to some of the other highly recruited guys that came in years past. 

I am no insider, but the way I read the tea leaves with some of the other 5*ish recruits as they got on campus is that it came with a sense of entitlement. These guys seem to acknowledge that year one is mostly all work, no play. If you can get on the field on Saturday's and help the team win the game, great. It's not to be expected. Once they've been here a year, two years, three years, etc. it will be their time to shine with more exposure to showcase their talent and the effort they put in, just like the guys that are getting the majority of the reps now did before them. 

Love to see this mentality; especially from the young blue chips. If this is part of the new culture at Michigan, I think it's safe to assume this will be fun and competitive team to root for. 

Don

October 13th, 2021 at 11:27 AM ^

I hope we jump out to a comfortable lead against NW so we can sit the starters after the half and give substantial snaps to McCarthy, Edwards, Anthony, and the other freshman.

The Homie J

October 13th, 2021 at 11:54 AM ^

Yeah, I'd love to see Cade throw for like 200 yards and at least 2 touchdowns in the first half and let JJ/Edwards and company get nearly the entire 2nd half to get quality reps in.  We know we can run the ball, we could easily blitz Northwestern on the ground without ever throwing a pass, but I wanna see us take a step forward in the passing game and this opponent, after 2 weeks off, is the perfect spot to get live reps in.

And I love how much time and reps JJ and D. Edwards have gotten already.  A whole half of football on top of that is a great thing to have.

Don

October 13th, 2021 at 1:51 PM ^

I agree, but the facts are that Michigan has the best rushing offense in the conference, and NW has the worst run defense in the conference, by a huge margin over the second worst (Illinois).

Unless NW suddenly and drastically improves its run defense and Michigan's OL suddenly forgets how to run block, we will run through, over, and around them.

Perkis-Size Me

October 13th, 2021 at 11:36 AM ^

Doing the work that's necessary to beat OSU. Its by no means a guarantee of beating OSU, but its a necessary pre-requisite, because I guarantee you that there's at least a handful of guys down in Columbus doing the exact same thing and its played at least a small part in their successes in the rivalry. 

Also, if they're thinking long-term (as I'm sure they are), they are putting in the work to have what it takes to succeed in the league. Tom Brady and Peyton Manning didn't get to where they got by only practicing when the coaches told them to. They were the first guys in the building and the last ones to leave. They knew as well as these guys do, if you're not going to put in that additional work, someone else will. And that someone else will happily take your spot. 

In any case, major kudos to them. That kind of work ethic is not common in people their age. I forget how the old saying goes, but to paraphrase, you learn a lot about someone by the actions they take when no one's looking.