Change one 2013 outcome: FB vs OSU, or BB vs Louisville. Which do you choose?

Submitted by NoVaWolverine on

Last Saturday's near-upset against OSU made me realize how much of a "We were THIS close..." year this has been for my sports fandom. Besides my Cardinals losing the World Series against the Red Sox (substitute Detroit in the ALCS if you're a Tigers fan), our hoops team fell to Louisville in the NCAA championship game after a brilliant season and run to the Final Four (and an 11-point first half lead -- argh), and then Team 134 came three yards shy of shocking OSU -- and all of us.

This got me to thinking...

Last night, you turn in after watching the hoops team endure the usual punishment of playing at Cameron Indoor, and after sleeping for a bit, you are awakened by the Magic Genie Spirit of Michigan Athletics.

"Humble Wolverine fan," he says in a booming voice, "You have endured much trial and suffering because of your love for the Maize and Blue. I have come from the Great Spirit Realm of Yost, Crisler, and Schembechler to grant you one great favor."

"Yeah?" you reply, half-awake.

"As this year of 2013 nears its end, I will allow you to go back in time and change the outcome of one -- and only one -- Michigan Wolverine sporting event from this past year. Your choices are:

Number 1: The football team succeeds in the two-point conversion at the end of The Game and beats the hated Buckeyes, 43-42. Seeing Drew Dileo covered, Devin Gardner pump fakes, then tucks the ball and burrows through a crease in the line, gimpy ankle and all, and just manages to thrust the ball over the goal-line plane before being walloped by a Buckeye defender. The road to Columbus is sown with the bitter tears of Bucknut fans returning home after seeing their undefeated season and BCS title hopes crushed in the Big House. The Aura of the Invincible OSU Version of Urban Meyer is deflated; Coach Hoke is 2-1 against our most bitter rival; Lewan and Gallon cap their Michigan careers with a glorious victory; and the painful mediocrity of 2013 Michigan football, which was basically all downhill after the Notre Dame game, is partially redeemed."

"Wow, that would be fantastic!" you say. "What's the other choice?"

"Number 2: The men's basketball team defeats Louisville in the NCAA championship game. Trey Burke's block (no longer a foul!) against Peyton Siva turns the momentum; our boys re-take the lead down the stretch and put away the game. Coach Beilein cuts down the nets while Pretty Boy Pitino sobs, Spike Albrecht makes out with Kate Upton in the Georgia Dome parking lot while 'One Shining Moment' plays in the distance, and the entire Ann Arbor campus eats at Subway and goes crazy."

"WOW! That would be awesome," you reply. "But ... if we win, do McGary and GRIII go pro?"

"Who cares, you greedy fool!" the Genie bellows. "You've just won the NCAA tourney!"

"OK, OK... so, those are the only choices?"

"What?!?" says the Genie, in shock. "Well, I suppose you could have Jordan Morgan's put-back against Indiana fall in, so the Wolverines win a share of another Big Ten title. Or the hockey team could beat ND in the CCHA championship game to keep the NCAA tourney streak alive. Or Al Borges could find the Magic Key to Unlock Narduzzi, and the football team finally beats MSU in East Lansing. Hey, I'm just as sick as you are of getting whipped by Sparty... But come on, man, be serious! OSU or Louisville. Choose one!"

So, which would you choose? Would love to hear everyone's choice, and their reasons.

Mine? This is tough, but as much as I hate losing to OSU and wanted to win that game, I'd take winning the tourney in March over Louisville. As we're seeing so far this basketball season, even for an elite program with a very talented team, it usually takes a rare combination of luck (e.g., the Kansas game) and a transcendent talent/leader (Trey Burke) to survive and win March Madness -- and titles are forever. It would have been a fitting end to a sublime season. But that's just me.

 

 

Lutha

December 4th, 2013 at 10:18 PM ^

I think you underestimate how important Tressel's first victory was against us in 2002.  At that point, Ohio State was where we are today. That win shifted the tide in the rivalry, annointed Tressel as the savior, and propelled them to their 2003 season.

A win last week and Hoke is 2-1 versus Ohio State.  Not only do we feel better, but a wee bit of doubt starts to creep back into Ohio State.

goblue20111

December 4th, 2013 at 11:08 PM ^

It's as if 2011 never happened. No one is underestimating the rivalry but given the chance to win an NC in a major sport you take the NC. No question about. None of this recruiting it changing the tide bullshit. Meyer is an animal. At best it's a heated rivalry with blows traded and at worst it's Tressell v. Lloyd. One game doesn't change that.

Beating Ohio is great in a vacuum but not in this context.

jmblue

December 5th, 2013 at 11:16 AM ^

OSU recruited extremely well under Cooper and continued to do so under Tressel.  It's not clear how much of a recruiting bonus they reaped from that one win.  They were going to get good players regardless.

Actually, you could argue that a basketball national title would yield greater benefits even in football recruiting.  Nothing puts a school on the map like a national title.

 

CompleteLunacy

December 4th, 2013 at 5:42 PM ^

The Louisville game. Because it was for the championship. 

I'm not even much of a basketball fan either.

A better question would be...would you rather the BB win vs. Louisville, or a FB win over OSU in 2006, which was the "Game of the Century" #1 vs. #2. That would be a much closer poll. 

jmblue

December 4th, 2013 at 5:45 PM ^

Basketball.  I'd trade losing 50-0 in last Saturday's game for the national title in hoops.  

Winning a national title is so, so difficult . . . it's happened a total of two times for us in the last 60 years in the two glamour sports.  Nothing compares to it. 

wahooverine

December 4th, 2013 at 5:53 PM ^

This is an awesome question.

It's very tough to choose, but ultimately I would pick us beating OSU last weekend.  Winning that game turns it into a legendary game in UM/OSU lore which has it's own value in addition to the previously mentioned benefits of breaking the OSU streak and ruining their NC hopes in dramatic fashion, helping recruiting, etc. etc. It changes the current narrative of the UM/OSU rivalry which right now sucks for us.

I get the "National Championship duh" argument, but it's still a very valuable prize itself to make an immensely entertaining, high-profile run through the NCAA and lose in a close game to Rick Pitino in the national championship.  We still will reap recruiting and marketing benefits from that.

jmblue

December 5th, 2013 at 11:14 AM ^

If that game had been the biggest upset, it's more a statement of how bad our season went up to then than anything.  Very few people outside of Ohio think OSU is a legit national title contender.  The consensus is that they;re a very one-dimensional team that has played extremely weak schedules this year and last.  I don't know how you can compare that to a national championship, unless you really don't care about basketball at all.

 

 

ca_prophet

December 4th, 2013 at 6:04 PM ^

But yes NC uber alles. It's hard because I imprinted on Michigan football and to this day would consider a 1-11 season with a victory over OSU to be partially successful and not the nadir of the program that my head says it would be. I simply attach a lot of meaning to a victory in The Game. I don't care that it breaks OSUs winning streak or ruins their NC hopes (I don't hate the teams, just the uniforms). I just want to win The Game more than any other. Oh, and to those who don't understand that ... I think we saw how far telling someone else how they should feel gets you earlier this week :). It's not like this is a world-changing event, where objective logic and the greatest good for the greatest number should guide your choice. It's about which outcome makes you feel happier. That's a question with one answer per person answering.

Boom Goes the …

December 4th, 2013 at 6:28 PM ^

but gotta go with the win over ohio.  You would have had jersey sales in ohio like never before. 

MGoBlue96

December 4th, 2013 at 6:48 PM ^

Even as a bigger fan of football, a NC championship over a win that still would have resulted in a 8-4 season is a no brainer. As much as I hate OSU, a win would not have changed the fact that the football teams season was a failure. Chances to win championships don't come along too often. The football team, on the other hand, gets to play Ohio State every year.

TWSWBC

December 4th, 2013 at 7:10 PM ^

Hoops bc the football team was a letdown. If they were undefeated going into the game I may give a different answer. But winning the tournament would've been so awesome and the only NC I would've been an adult for.

Red is Blue

December 4th, 2013 at 7:11 PM ^

For those saying bb because NC are hard to come by, does this mean you wouldn't trade for anything less than a NC in football? Would you take wins against MSU, Iowa and Ohio over Louisville? That would put us at 11-1 going to B1G CG.

Perkis-Size Me

December 4th, 2013 at 7:21 PM ^

National title. Not even close. It's so hard to even get to the national championship in basketball, much less win one. Winning a national championship single-handedly changes the face of your program, vaults you to elite status, and immediately puts you into contention for recruits you wouldn't otherwise get. Plus, the prestige of winning a damn national title. And imagine how much it would've pissed MSU fans off to know we bested them at their own game.

I'd still love to beat OSU, but this season was a letdown anyway. If we beat OSU, that's great, but from a national standpoint it wouldn't mean much. All people would say is that it reaffirms how bad the Big Ten is that it's top team lost to an unranked one.

1974

December 4th, 2013 at 8:34 PM ^

I clicked on this out of morbid curiosity to see if anyone would pick football. Amazingly (to me, anyway) a few people did. That blows my mind.

Rather be on BA

December 4th, 2013 at 8:59 PM ^

Easy.  Basketball.  National title > beating Ohio at the end of a shitty season.  The fact that this is even a hard choice for some people makes you realize how far the football program has fallen; beating Ohio should be a regularity dagnamit!

Don

December 5th, 2013 at 8:47 AM ^

having sweaty, passionate sex with Kate Upton all weekend, or making out with your best friend's hot cougar Mom for fifteen minutes.

 

User -not THAT user

December 5th, 2013 at 10:15 AM ^

...for the hockey guys:

Michigan beats ND in the CCHA Final at The Joe and continues "the streak" gaining entry to the NCAA hockey tournament last spring.  I mean, when you look at that Frozen Four line-up and see the teams that made it in, you HAD to think Michigan would be able to get SOMETHING done if they just could've gotten a skate in the door.  They were getting better later, just...not...quite...soon enough.