CBs for Filiaga, Becton, Ruiz and Nico, Irving-Bey

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Couple of CBs for Filiaga this afternoon.  Ace put one in for Becton.  Ruiz and Nico got 1 today as well.  Jordan Anthony got 1 too.  All for the good guys, btw. Irving-Bey with 4 recent CBs.

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BoCanHam15

December 16th, 2016 at 8:35 PM ^

I'm not trying to be funny bro. Look I understand you have an opine and I respect that. But Harbaugh does look ugly with the extra u. However, I am more than pleased with the turnaround! Not sure how much Michigan football you've watched but our team is much better and we were within an inch of the playoffs with a make shift line.(injuries). So, I'm just gonna always be optimistic about our chances and for some strange reason I have a strong belief that our coach can win. GO BLUE and try to see the positives in life and the MICHIGAN team and players.



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1percenter

December 16th, 2016 at 7:28 PM ^

Are they missing on top talent? It doesn't take a rocket scientist to know it takes athletes to win. Scheme and coaching is only going to take you so far. Read a lot on this blog your always talking up the football program. If Haurbaugh can with a championship with the talent he has acquired, then I will never doubt again. I've been watching football all my life and talent wins.

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BoCanHam15

December 16th, 2016 at 7:40 PM ^

Arguing about one or two recruits is very child like. Mommy he won't let me play with all his toys. Life. You win some you lose some. Move on. Look up the recruits we do have and try to smile. You're NOT going to get all the recruits ask little brother.



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Maizen

December 16th, 2016 at 8:47 PM ^

I'm normally a star gazer but OL is by far the hardest position to evaluate.  Super elite guys like a Trey Smith or Alex Leatherwood are easy evlauations but most others are pretty tough. MIchigan's two best LT's in the last 10 years were Jake Long and Taylor Lewan. Bother were generic 4 stars and 270 lbs dripping wet. Jake Fisher would have been the third guy to fit that profile before he decommitted for Oregon. Meanwhile Hoke's OL class that looked awesome on paper was mostly underwhleming on the field. It's not just a UM thing either. Pat Elfein was a generic 3 star for OSU and won the Rimington (so was Molk for that matter) while their prize top 100 OT recruit Isaiah Prince got his ass whooped all season.

Point is I trust Drevno to get a good group and make them the nasty and mean road graders we have been wanting.

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Danwillhor

December 16th, 2016 at 9:18 PM ^

there are a couple "can't miss" guys a year and then a bunch of "he's big and can kinda run" guys. Most Freshman OL are the last guys you want to start and definitely not in a pro system. Read Option Spread can cover for a lot of deficiency but when you want to line it up and run down someone's throat, only the best of the best can do that as a Freshman. Look at most NFL OL and notice that it has the most rankiny variance in the game. The Packers and NE constantly have MAC level 2 star types on their OL.

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lhglrkwg

December 16th, 2016 at 10:41 PM ^

David Molk - who dat 3* guy, kicked peoples ass for breakfast
Patrick Kugler - elite center coming out of HS, still hasn't shown up
Graham Glasgow - completely off the radar out of HS, was awesome

Like you said, super hard to evaluate anything but the elite of the elite. As long as we have enough bodies on the roster to make a good depth chart, I'm fairly confident the staff will find a good crew

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Magnus

December 17th, 2016 at 10:12 AM ^

Elflein is also a senior, while Prince was not.

It's a little disingenous to say Lewan was a generic 4-star. He was a top-200 player who was an Under Armour All-American.

I agree that offensive linemen can be hard to peg, but consistently relying on coaches to coach up 3-star guys is a recipe for uncertainty, if not disaster.

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MFanWM

December 17th, 2016 at 6:12 PM ^

The "coaching" capability only goes so far....the old chicken soup from chicken shit analogy does apply.  Wilson was a miss from the definite perspective that I think many to include the coaches thought he was in the bag and my guess would be passed on Banks based on his decision time frame in the near future.

If I had one recruit that I would think would be the most impactful in the class it would have been poaching Leatherwood from Alabama.

That said, lineman develop in vastly different ways than most skill position players on average as they are growing into their bodies and abilities; but when you simply take the photo of where a Wilson is at vs. many other OTs in this class, there is a stark difference in the physical presence. 

 

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Hard-Baughlls

December 16th, 2016 at 9:34 PM ^

we have some big boys in there. If the O-line is not overpowering yet next year, as we suspect, a bunch of 2 TE sets with Asiasi and Wheatley could be very productive for the run game.  Both are huge and were very good blockers, especially Asiasi, and Wheatley can fly like a reciever.  They could really alleviate some of the O-line stress.

Onwenu will be a monster, we know what we are getting with Bredeson, and Cole will be solid anywhere on the line.  This is not as doom as many are projecting.

No, this probably won't be an Alabama O-line, but we can scheme around a bunch of the weaknesses and I don't expect production to drop much from what we saw this year.  Now will it improve?  Really up to how the players evolve individually and as a group.

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Hard-Baughlls

December 16th, 2016 at 10:28 PM ^

OL is so random and I don't have the numbers in front of me, but it seems to be one of the toughest position groups to project.

By no means am I rationalizing losing out on a 5* with a great frame, it sucks....would have been awesome to have had him in cue, but it really seem that OL more than any other place on the field is really a random draw in terms of HS to college development.

I'm sure the more 4 and 5 star guys you bring in the raise the likelihood of overall success, but I truly believe this is one position group where it's a game of numbers (get as many big, athletic bodies in the program as you can), a game of development and coaching, and in some ways the happenstance of how the group gels together.

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Mongo

December 17th, 2016 at 12:05 PM ^

full manhood. These 18 year old kids arrive with baby-fat and bad habits. Got to turn them into men which takes until they are 21 - max testosterone and lifting a ton (or two) of metal to build muscle mass. Some mature earlier than 21 but most do not, thus, the plethora of OL redshirts and 5th year seniors. That 5th year is gold for most guys who are going to the NFL.

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UMich2016

December 16th, 2016 at 10:35 PM ^

I really think the staff needs to recruit a grad transfer Offensive Lineman.  This would be an innovative strategy and another way harbaugh could change the typical recruiting landscape.  We need another experienced guy plain and simple.

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GoBlueDiggity

December 17th, 2016 at 10:25 AM ^

According to my dad (dont know how valid this is honestly) he said that najee was deciding today? I highly doubt this but was just trying to see if anyone heard the same thing. The one thing that I will believe that he said is that Najee is pissed about kiffin leaving for FAU which is obviously great news if true.

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Yessir

December 17th, 2016 at 11:15 AM ^

4 CBs for Deron Irving-Bey recently.  2 late last night and 2 more this AM.

He's commiting at the Army AA Bowl, iirc.  That would be close to sweeping the state's top recruits. 

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MFanWM

December 17th, 2016 at 6:07 PM ^

Kugler also came in with an injured shoulder that required surgery and I believe he injured it again.  Shoulders are really hard to judge on injuries and if my memory serves me well, it also makes it hard to get the same benefits from a college weight program in the first few years.  

I give that comment as someone who dislocated one shoulder and separated the other a few times in DIII ball and still feels it today at 43.

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